Travelling Space in Directions.

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Hi, why is it when we goto space we always seem to go the same direction, why is it that they never go straight up/down or diagnel??

Are we missing something?
 
Nat Turner said:
One question:

Is safety guaranteed?
LMAO!

I really didn't understand what you meant lister, it's prob something so dumb i didn't realise what you were asking.
 
short recoil said:
LMAO!

I really didn't understand what you meant lister, it's prob something so dumb i didn't realise what you were asking.

Well i don't fully understand neither, i had a girl ask me the question why is it that when they goto space they always go in 1 direction, forward..never down or straight up or diagnel. I just thought sum-1 on here could answer it.
 
If I understand your question, It's becuase there is no point of reference (e.g. the ground).
 
lister said:
Hi, why is it when we goto space we always seem to go the same direction, why is it that they never go straight up/down or diagnel??

Are we missing something?
Angle relative to what?
They go up, becuase its the most efficent way. Then they turn once there out of the earths atmosphere.
 
lister said:
Well i don't fully understand neither, i had a girl ask me the question why is it that when they goto space they always go in 1 direction, forward..never down or straight up or diagnel. I just thought sum-1 on here could answer it.

They don't, they go in a parabolic shape. lol
 
I think someone should get a 10-12 year old sibling to translate.
 
You wouldn't have much a chance of getting into space if you faced the rocket downwards.....
 
OvA said:
If I understand your question, It's becuase there is no point of reference (e.g. the ground).

Yes but we haven't even attempted it. What if there was another galaxy that was closer if we went straight up, than turning once out of Earth's atmosphere.


OvA said:
I think someone should get a 10-12 year old sibling to translate.

WTF!!!

You wouldn't have much a chance of getting into space if you faced the rocket downwards......

I actually thought sum people on here had brains.
 
lister said:
Yes but we haven't even attempted it. What if there was another galaxy that was closer if we went straight up, than turning once out of Earth's atmosphere.




WTF!!!



I actually thought sum people on here had brains.

Take it as a compliment, at least you're in the double digits.
 
lister said:
Yes but we haven't even attempted it. What if there was another galaxy that was closer if we went straight up, than turning once out of Earth's atmosphere.




WTF!!!
THE HELL!!!
I really do hope you are taking the piss.

Another galaxy, lol andromeda is the closest and that's 2.3 million light years........so you understand that's 2.3 million years at light speed, the mice in the cargo bay would evolve in that time.

You're not on about warping space time are you, but in a really odd way of saying it?
 
short recoil said:
THE HELL!!!
I really do hope you are taking the piss.

Another galaxy, lol andromeda is the closest and that's 2.3 million light years........so you understand that's 2.3 million years at light speed, the mice in the cargo bay would evolve in that time.

You're not on about warping space time are you, but in a really odd way of saying it?

Well you can always just time travel over there.
 
Its all relative... But thanks to this thread I think I just lost a sanity braincell.
 
You have a cyclop perspective
and taught android mentality =
lobotomized analytical ability.
Educated singularity stupid -
You can't think 4 corner days.
 
short recoil said:
THE HELL!!!
I really do hope you are taking the piss.

Another galaxy, lol andromeda is the closest and that's 2.3 million light years........so you understand that's 2.3 million years at light speed, the mice in the cargo bay would evolve in that time.

You're not on about warping space time are you, but in a really odd way of saying it?

A galaxy pic

Also another question, why do we always refer space/galaxies to be circular?

Im getting confused, sorry but like i said this was not a question myself thought of, but i was just interested in..here is sum info on Space Time
 
lister said:
well done u just copied ur post from here......http://www.timecube.com/

lister are evil cowards
and should be castrated
for obscurantism of the 4
simultaneous days within
a single rotation of Earth.


I AM THE SECOND WISEST HUMAN.
(Gene Ray is the wisest.)
 
Circular or spherical are the natural shapes formed by gravity, the shape of even matter around a point of gravity, circular being caused by rotational movement keep the matter constrained into a circular shape.
Often things in space are circular or spherical but not everything, many galaxies are simply cluster galaxies etc.
 
The milky way is disc shaped--that picture is taken from the side. Linear inertia causes it to be flat, make it circular.
 
i think he's asking, when we send a probe into space why do we also go the same direction, rather than passing through the planets why don't we just go straight 'up'.
 
I think he means why don't we travel off of the planetary plane. I'd say that the answer is that there is nothing nearby if you go off of the planetary plane. As for travelling at the speed of light. If you actually hit the speed of light your trip would seem to be instantaneous to you because of the compression of time. From Earth's point of view you would be taking forever.
 
xcellerate said:
i think he's asking, when we send a probe into space why do we also go the same direction, rather than passing through the planets why don't we just go straight 'up'.
If that's what he's asking... Exactly! There's nothing to see if we go "up" on the planetary plane. If we were to do that, it would take millennia at best to reach anything of interest. We can't go from exploring Earth to exploring the entire universe in one leap. Baby steps. Explore a nearby planet first.

lister said:
Well i don't fully understand neither, i had a girl ask me the question why is it that when they goto space they always go in 1 direction, forward..never down or straight up or diagnel. I just thought sum-1 on here could answer it.
That girl is an idiot. We don't "go straight". The Earth is not a disc, and space is not a vertical cylinder.
 
I really don't understand the question, and there's hundreds of possible interpretations. But when you're involved with orbits and gravitational fields, you tend to follow parabolic paths, not straight paths. But going "straight up" isn't very easy. Going into orbit is easier, that's what space missions tend to do. Saturn V (the Apollo programme) went into an orbit around the Earth, before they shot off to the Moon.

Going into orbit means you need to get a very high horizontal velocity. Once you get up to a couple of hundred km or so, you want to have an (horizontal) orbital velocity, and zero vertical velocity.

You can't get into orbit at a lower level, because the earth's atmosphere would cause so much friction that you would burn up. Which means you need to go to a higher altitude.

That probably didn't answer any question.
 
I can imagine the conversation that led up to this thread... I suppose it went something like this:

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Uhh, the rocket always leaves earth at the same degree so it can pass through the atmosphere without blowing up. After that it rockets towards wherever it is going. Mind you it only travels straight because the only force acting on it was the acceleration from when it did a burn to increase speed. Since there are no other outside forces acting on the rocket it keeps moving in that direction unless it passes a large body...such as a moon or planet and the rocket will be pulled towards that if it is close enough.

Do you understand now...or somewhat?

Oh...galaxies are usually circular because objects in it tend to orbit a large body at the center such as the sun in our case.
 
In space, there is no up or down, left or right. Just coordinates.
 
Que-Ever said:
I can imagine the conversation that led up to this thread... I suppose it went something like this:

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U ARE A **** & Stigmata IS A **** TOO.

BASICALLY I DONT LIKE U CALLING HER A N IDIOT & U FOR DRAWING A FUKING PIC THAT BASICALLY EXPRESSES WHERE STUPID, FUK U
 
dream431ca said:
In space, there is no up or down, left or right. Just coordinates.

I think this is the only reasonable answer i have had in this topic, all other people here that have answered av taken the piss. I fink u need to get mummy & daddy credit card out for a new course in school, wankers.
 
lister said:
Hi, why is it when we goto space we always seem to go the same direction, why is it that they never go straight up/down or diagnel??

Are we missing something?

Are you referring to space game RTS' which seamingly are fought on a 2D plane most of the time
 
DEATH eVADER said:
Are you referring to space game RTS' which seamingly are fought on a 2D plane most of the time

yeh thats right im referring to Star Wars RTS.
 
I don't get what you're asking. You can turn right or left (based on what direction the pilot is sitting anyway) by thrusting engines the way. IE: Engines thrust from back and engines on left side begin thrusting, to produce a right turn. I don't have any idea where the 'only go straight' idea came from, I guess you could think that if you kept your perspective on the outside of the ship exactly horizontal with it the entire time, but that'd be pretty dumb.
 
lister said:
U ARE A **** & Stigmata IS A **** TOO.

BASICALLY I DONT LIKE U CALLING HER A N IDIOT & U FOR DRAWING A FUKING PIC THAT BASICALLY EXPRESSES WHERE STUPID, FUK U
wow, the blistering wit :/
 
Oh shut up with the flaming lister.

If you mean in actual space, real life, then it's a silly question because of course we could go in all different directions if we actually left earth orbit. Since we don't, we are in a sense moving in relation to a horizontal plane just as we do on the ground - only the difference is, that plane is above the surface of the earth and not on it.

However, I'm going to assume you meant in sci-fi, because that would be a good question. In most sci-fi, spaceships appear to move on a flat plane and all ships stay the same way up:

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It's because people tend to think of space battles between small ships as air battles (in space) and between bigger ships as naval battles (in space, natch). Perhaps it's laziness or perhaps because we can't quite get our heads around the idea of total freedom of movement. However, it's not totally unrealistic because in reality it'd be unlikely to get space 'battles' happening in no-gravity space; rather the most scraps would probably occur in orbit at strategic locations. This would mean movement on an effectively horizontal plane - or rather a very very big curved one (like the one you're moving on now) but spaceships would still not stay a certain way up; they might fly sideways or upside-down in relation to the surface of the planet, or asteroid, or star, or Dyson Sphere, or whatever.

Not to mention that by the time we have interstellar space travel it might be multi-dimensional so fights and movement would become even more complex.
 
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