Uncooperative Woman Tazed
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iyfyoufhl
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no, see police in most civilized countries come up to you, salute you, say hello, and ask nicelyMarcoPollo said:They don't have to respect you, you aren't doing anything respect worthy, they are enforcing the law. The law is more important than your feelings.
i respect everybody 'til the moment they do something bad
i don't see why they can't enforce the law, but be polite to while doing so, anyway they are only making asses of themself,
did you know that police work is the highest for suicide and acholohic (sorry spl.) rate in US
I think they train them to be pigs
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iyfyoufhl said:
Every officer I have encountered has been polite. If I see them on the street, or in the 7/11 they nod their head politely, and I do the same. I got pulled over recently, and he was polite. "I'm going to let you off with a warning Mr. Williams. Have a good night sir"
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Anyone being that woman's advocate is misguided, and probably against anything American.
While the situation could have gone better, ie, the police officer talked her out of the car and put some cuffs on her, the fact is, it DIDN'T happen that way. The officer used force to bring the suspect to a controllable state. It was a quick, dirty solution, but it worked, well.
Saying he could have talked her out of the car is like saying we could have talked Hitler into not invading Europe. Sure, it could have been possible, but there would have been compromises. And when that police officer chooses to talk the suspect out of the car, he takes a compromise, a chance, a roll of the dice. The driver could have not listened and drove off while the police officer was still in the way of the car. Worse yet, the driver could have pulled out a sawed off shotgun from the rear of his seat and blown the cop to peices.
Sure, police officers take a chance at life the moment they put on their badge, like all human beings. It is up to that individual to survive in the world, and make the most of any tools he has to get home safely after the day is over. Sure, there are other way of getting a person out of a car, but it increases the oppurtunity for that suspect to do something the police officer simply cannot expect.
I'd really like to see you all take the woman's side after she runs into this situation again, but instead of simply not complying with the law, she chooses to take one or more cops down with her.
While the situation could have gone better, ie, the police officer talked her out of the car and put some cuffs on her, the fact is, it DIDN'T happen that way. The officer used force to bring the suspect to a controllable state. It was a quick, dirty solution, but it worked, well.
Saying he could have talked her out of the car is like saying we could have talked Hitler into not invading Europe. Sure, it could have been possible, but there would have been compromises. And when that police officer chooses to talk the suspect out of the car, he takes a compromise, a chance, a roll of the dice. The driver could have not listened and drove off while the police officer was still in the way of the car. Worse yet, the driver could have pulled out a sawed off shotgun from the rear of his seat and blown the cop to peices.
Sure, police officers take a chance at life the moment they put on their badge, like all human beings. It is up to that individual to survive in the world, and make the most of any tools he has to get home safely after the day is over. Sure, there are other way of getting a person out of a car, but it increases the oppurtunity for that suspect to do something the police officer simply cannot expect.
I'd really like to see you all take the woman's side after she runs into this situation again, but instead of simply not complying with the law, she chooses to take one or more cops down with her.
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lol I made a big thread.
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Tazer: Hurts like a bitch for 5 seconds. Hurts a little for a few days.
Beating: Hurts like a bitch for days. Breaks bones. Causes internal bleeding. Causes nerve damage, both "feeling" nerves and "moving limbs" nerves. Etc etc. I could go on but I'm not a doctor.
Beating: Hurts like a bitch for days. Breaks bones. Causes internal bleeding. Causes nerve damage, both "feeling" nerves and "moving limbs" nerves. Etc etc. I could go on but I'm not a doctor.
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iyfyoufhl said:
How in the world is a tazer bad? It temporarily stops you from being able to move, if you resist arrest this is easy for a police office to throw you on the ground/put you on your stomach so they can handcuff you. It doesn't leave anything but 2 little holes. Club leaves marks on your body and could cause A LOT more injury.
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Teen Shot After Beating Up Officer During Navarre Traffic Stop
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Published: Jul 23, 2004
PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) - A Santa Rosa County sheriff's deputy shot a teenager in the upper torso as the boy and his brother beat up the officer during a traffic stop, officials said.
Deputy Danny Aloy tried to pull over Luke James Mullikin, 18, and Matthew Joseph Mullikin, 22, for speeding along U.S. 98 in Navarre on off-road motorcycles Thursday.
The brothers led Aloy behind an American Legion Post, where one of them tripped Aloy as the deputy tried to handcuff him. Both brothers began "beating and kicking him in the head," said Sheriff Wendell Hall.
Aloy pulled his gun and fired two shots, one of which hit Luke Mullikin, said sheriff's spokesman, Deputy Jerry Henderson.
Officials said a second deputy, Sgt. Pat Vega, arrived at the scene shortly after the shots were fired, and found Matthew Mullikin on top of Aloy, striking him in the face. Matthew Mullikin continued beating Aloy after being shot twice with a Taser gun, stopping only when Vega hit him with a baton, according to a sheriff's report.
Luke Mullikin was in stable condition at Pensacola's Baptist Hospital. Matthew Mullikin was treated there and released, then booked at the Santa Rosa Jail and held without bail, Henderson said.
Officials planned to charge both brothers with aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer, attempting to flee or elude law enforcement and resisting arrest without violence.
Aloy was placed on paid administrative leave, Hall said. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating.
Man, that kid didn't even stop beating the officer after being shot with the taser gun twice!
The Associated Press
Published: Jul 23, 2004
PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) - A Santa Rosa County sheriff's deputy shot a teenager in the upper torso as the boy and his brother beat up the officer during a traffic stop, officials said.
Deputy Danny Aloy tried to pull over Luke James Mullikin, 18, and Matthew Joseph Mullikin, 22, for speeding along U.S. 98 in Navarre on off-road motorcycles Thursday.
The brothers led Aloy behind an American Legion Post, where one of them tripped Aloy as the deputy tried to handcuff him. Both brothers began "beating and kicking him in the head," said Sheriff Wendell Hall.
Aloy pulled his gun and fired two shots, one of which hit Luke Mullikin, said sheriff's spokesman, Deputy Jerry Henderson.
Officials said a second deputy, Sgt. Pat Vega, arrived at the scene shortly after the shots were fired, and found Matthew Mullikin on top of Aloy, striking him in the face. Matthew Mullikin continued beating Aloy after being shot twice with a Taser gun, stopping only when Vega hit him with a baton, according to a sheriff's report.
Luke Mullikin was in stable condition at Pensacola's Baptist Hospital. Matthew Mullikin was treated there and released, then booked at the Santa Rosa Jail and held without bail, Henderson said.
Officials planned to charge both brothers with aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer, attempting to flee or elude law enforcement and resisting arrest without violence.
Aloy was placed on paid administrative leave, Hall said. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating.
Man, that kid didn't even stop beating the officer after being shot with the taser gun twice!
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DiSTuRbEd said:
Well, the officer did use his gun, once he was being assaulted and probably killed or left for dead. He used it to try to save his life when he shot the one kid in the chest. The 'other' officer could have used his gun yes, but he did the right thing by only using the taser instead of his actual gun as there was just one assailant and using his gun would put both the kid and officer at risk of being killed.
Apparently you haven't experienced a good old fashioned american beating. :afro:
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iyfyoufhl said:
Dude really, I doubt getting beat with a BLUNT object won't hurt, infact it would do more damage, you can break more with a batton. Tazer is on for 5 seconds, batton beating can go on longer. I'm looking at the tazer the best option.
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I'd MUCH rather get tazed than being smacked in the head with a flashlight. Actually, I'd much like to try and experience what a tazer feels like because I know it has no long term effects and the pain is not one of being bluntly blunted with a blunt object, but more of a termporary nervous collapse.
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http://www.taser.com/law/video/high/traffic_512k.mov
Do you think THIS guy didn't deserve it either? I honestly expect some of you to say he didn't. Heh.
The 'last' one on the clip I will agree he probably used the taser too rapidly. That one I will agree on.
Do you think THIS guy didn't deserve it either? I honestly expect some of you to say he didn't. Heh.
The 'last' one on the clip I will agree he probably used the taser too rapidly. That one I will agree on.
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Yeah you have skills lolRakuraiTenjin said:
Imagine if someone stuffed a tazer up the rectum and turned it on? Painfull but hawt?
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Foxtrot said:
As I said up previously though where I edited... I think the very last clip of the video, with the K-9 Unit officer... he probably was a bit too quick to use the stun gun. The guy was just walking casually back. Should have asked that he remain still first.
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I haven't seen that part yet, just the first two. Ok I just saw that, ya he was too quick. But you have to put yourself in his position, the guy could have been about to run, or going for a gun, he had no idea and he was probably nervoud as hell. That guy was like twice his size, and pretty pissed off.Raziaar said:
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LOL! I like in the first one, when the cop said "Get down on the ground" and the guy was laying on his stomach and he said... "NO".Raziaar said:
Good god he was wasted. Nice.
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I don't think she deserved it. She just didn't give the cop with any other choice.
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Im quoting this so that you guys get it...he was justified 100% in what he did.
You guys are ****ing retards to say he wasnt justified in what he was doing. Someone brought up an example of "hey get out or I will shoot you with my 9mm". Fine then, because only a literal and legally retarded person or someone who has a reason for running from the cops would not get out.
The guy warned her...he pointed the gun at her showing he was serious...he warned her twice more. She took a swing at him and he tazed her for 5 seconds. Not only is that procedure but its a lot better than grabbing her arm or giving her pepper spray....not only that but she could have had a weapon thus the reason for her SUSPENDED LICENSE and her uncooperation. Guys you dont realize she had a suspended license, so obviously that was when he stopped treating her as a routine traffic stop and as a criminal. Because she could have been driving away from killing someone...she has a smashed windshield and is driving with a suspended license at 86 mph...I would be really suspicious and will not hesitate to use any force which in that case was a tazer.
