US military investigating allegations US soldiers executed iraqi civilians

[Some_God]

well now I'm sorta lost

Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[CptStern]

heh, funny how you're quick to respond to my last post yet completely ignore this one

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1825578&postcount=69

edit: 12 hours later still no response

 

[Some_God]

yet if the same set of circumstances were applied to insurgents/terrorists you'd be quick to condemn them. Surely some part of you must be outraged at the thought of the cold blooded murder of a 6 month old baby committed in your name

"'The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11 persons, including five children, four women and two men,' the report said. 'Then they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals.'

"The report identified the dead by name, giving their ages. The two men killed were 22 and 28. Of the women, one was 22, another was 23, a third was 30 and the fourth was 75. Two of the children were 5 years old, two were 3, and the fifth was 6 months old

hospital autopsies "revealed that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and all bodies were handcuffed"."

I was not here for 12 hours so let me respond to that. War crimes are not good and I'm not supporting those who commited them. You have to admit however the pressure of war was building up in these soldiers and, unfortunatly, was released upon these women and children.

 

[Solaris]

I was not here for 12 hours so let me respond to that. War crimes are not good and I'm not supporting those who commited them. You have to admit however the pressure of war was building up in these soldiers and, unfortunatly, was released upon these women and children.

The pressure of war? That excuses nothing. Maybe if he had through his gun down and started crying, but executing 15people in cold blood including 15 children is completely inexcuseable.

 

[Some_God]

The pressure of war? That excuses nothing. Maybe if he had through his gun down and started crying, but executing 15people in cold blood including 15 children is completely inexcuseable.

Haha, I'm surprising at you; that is the exact type of thing you say [what I said in my previous post, that is] when asked if you support Hamas, although with a few modifications.

 

[Solaris]

Haha, I'm surprising at you; that is the exact type of thing you say [what I said in my previous post, that is] when asked if you support Hamas, although with a few modifications.

Yes. But it is not the Palestinians fault if his famillys shot up, but if the soldiers in Iraq feel too "Pressured" then it is there fault for being there and taking part in an ilegal and immoral occupation.

 

[Some_God]

Yes. But it is not the Palestinians fault if his famillys shot up

Yes. But it's not the soldier's fault if he is obligated to follow orders.

but if the soldiers in Iraq feel too "Pressured" then it is there fault for being there and taking part in an ilegal and immoral occupation.

Actually, no. The cause for pressure is constant harrasment by enemy combatants. The same thing can be said for Palestinians and Israelies... retaliatory attacks are not justified, no matter what the incident.

 

[CptStern]

I was not here for 12 hours so let me respond to that. War crimes are not good and I'm not supporting those who commited them. You have to admit however the pressure of war was building up in these soldiers and, unfortunatly, was released upon these women and children.

pressure? you're saying that it's understandable because they're under undue stress? the only explanation I can come up with as to why you would even say something so rediculous is that you and many like you see iraqis as less than human. Stress/pressure DOES not excuse killing women and children, if that is the rule of law in iraq, then you (US) are no better than those you fight

 

[Some_God]

Apperantly no one here understands sarcasm. I was merely pointing out what you and Solaris have been saying when defending Palestinians and such. The greater picture is beyond you, young padiwan.

 

[CptStern]

Some_God: explain how your response

Apperantly no one here understands sarcasm. I was merely pointing out what you and Solaris have been saying when defending Palestinians and such. The greater picture is beyond you, young padiwan.

has anything to do with my post:

pressure? you're saying that it's understandable because they're under undue stress? the only explanation I can come up with as to why you would even say something so rediculous is that you and many like you see iraqis as less than human. Stress/pressure DOES not excuse killing women and children, if that is the rule of law in iraq, then you (US) are no better than those you fight

 

[Some_God]

Some_God: explain how your response has anything to do with my post:

Well you quoted this:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1828484&postcount=83

As it turns out, that was only a bait/trap for Solaris... you know, to start a flame war with him... as evidenced by these posts:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1828608&postcount=84
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1828608&postcount=85

In conclusion, you were inadvertanty baited into the flame war and, in my opinion, were not educated enough to understand what happened.

 

[CptStern]

so in other words you're saying you quoted my post in the hopes that someone else would reply to it? that's pretty effective debating ...should I quote solaris when trying to respond to you or should I use someone else all together?

 

[Llama]

oo, use me!

 

[Some_God]

so in other words you're saying you quoted my post in the hopes that someone else would reply to it? that's pretty effective debating ...snip

That's exactly what I was doing. If I am commenting to the "quotee", it usually goes like this: "[Insert name of the person you quoted here], I disagree with you blah blah blah."

You can use any quote to respond to me for example:

"The [Nazi party] should not become a constable of public opinion, but must dominate it. It must not become a servant of the masses, but their master!"

Stern:Some_God you damn Nazi! :imu:

 

[Solaris]

That's exactly what I was doing. If I am commenting to the "quotee", it usually goes like this: "[Insert name of the person you quoted here], I disagree with you blah blah blah."

You can use any quote to respond to me for example:


Stern:Some_God you damn Nazi! :imu:

What thats just stupid? Why would you quote someone else when you want to talk to someone, it's just confusing?!?

 

[Some_God]

What thats just stupid? Why would you quote someone else when you want to talk to someone, it's just confusing?!?

Silly human, were getting off topic.