V for Vendetta

[Jerry_111]

"Why won't you die?!"

"Behind this mask -- there is more than flesh. Behind this mask is an idea, Mr Creedy, and ideas are BULLETPROOF."

 

[15357]

Terrorism is distinct from merely 'fighting for political goals'. Terrorists deliberately target a population or a government, organising attacks. These attacks have the aim of pressuring a government into changing the situation, retreating from a political arena, according to the political demands of the terrorists - releasing prisoners, retreating from a region, ending a war. Usually, and especially with democracies, this pressure takes the form of fear - hence 'terrorist' - scaring a population into forcing their government to accede.

The most common form of terrorism is 'home-front' terrorism - where members of a nation or group that feels it is being warred upon strike back at the civilian population of the country they percieve as their oppressors in order to take the war to the people - in order to show those people exactly what their popularly-elected government is doing. A taste of their own medicine, if they will. This is partly true of Al Quaeda, and certainly true of the IRA.

The key thing is that they're not trying to overthrow a government. They are trying to terrorise a government into changing its position, its policy.

That's terrorism: violently coercing a government in order to achieve specific political goals.

That's why when people say "What about the ANC? They were terrorists!" it's a bad comparison because Nelson Mandela was not trying to coerce or scare a population into forcing their government to change its policy on a specific matter - he was trying to create a whole new government.

Like the Bolsheviks, V is waging a campaign to actually bring down the current government, in order to replace it with something better - a revolutionary, not a terrorist.

DO EEEEET also pick up Transmetropolitan, From Hell, Tom Strong, Preacher, Watchmen, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The Inivisibles, WE3 and Sandman while you're at it.

Well, it's still justifying the brutal murder and destructioon of people/property. And supporting anarchy, disorder, chaos. I still say it needs censorship.

"Why won't you die?!"

"Behind this mask -- there is more than flesh. Behind this mask is an idea, Mr Creedy, and ideas are BULLETPROOF."

Our Army Security Command says different.

 

[Jintor]

Well, behind the mask was also Kevlar.

And doesn't your whole country's philosophy support to brutal murder and destruction of property? :O

 

[Lucid]

V for Vendetta doesn't need censorship.

Good movies shouldn't be censored.

I'm going to move to Korea and spread the love!

 

[CyberPitz]

V for Vendetta doesn't need censorship.

Good movies shouldn't be censored.

I'm going to move to Korea and spread the love!

You'll be dead in a week...DON'T THROW YOUR LIFE AWAY!!

 

[Sulkdodds]

Well, it's still justifying the brutal murder and destructioon of people/property.

Yes.

So do you, let's be fair.

And supporting anarchy, disorder, chaos.

No. It only supports one of those things; they are not synonymous.

 

[15357]

Yes.

So do you, let's be fair.No. It only supports one of those things; they are not synonymous.

What? That's ridiculous!

 

[Sulkdodds]

Anarchy as a political theory is not merely the absence of order, but more the absence of the state. "With anarchy," says V in the comic, "comes the age of ordung, the true order, which is to say voluntary order."

And yeah, you do support the brutal murder and destruction of people/property - we call it 'war'.

If you're no longer in favour of this I apologise profusely; seems I didn't get the memo.

 

[15357]

But until then, keep order, even if you have to enforce it with repression.


Ah, I see. :E

 

[Jintor]

I'm still more inclined towards freedom without opression = vague anarchy than order + opression = safety - rights.

 

[repiV]

Fantastic film.