Valve mentioned in New Scientist!

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I have to eat tea now...but I will transcribe what is written later...

Its a bit on P2P networks, and how Valve uses bit torrent etc
its only a few lines, but intresting none the less
 
So instead of waiting to post something usfull, you tell us about your eating habbits.

Your from Melbourne arnt you...
 
lol... is it important news?!

-merc
 
Shame is that the guy who developed BitTorrent should be getting the attention, not Valve who hired him on.

Sure they'll provide him with the resources to roll it out and into the mainstream...but hey ;)
 
Thats what we call dinner in australia.

"Whats for tea tonite?"
 
Wow. Eating tea. When I read that, in my head I pictured a big guy munching on tea bags. Scary shit.
 
Zyphria said:
Shame is that the guy who developed BitTorrent should be getting the attention, not Valve who hired him on.

Sure they'll provide him with the resources to roll it out and into the mainstream...but hey ;)

It's a team now. Not an individual.

But it still cracks me up that Blizzard took it and made their own copy. Without mentioning Bram Cohen as stated in the license. And Bram Cohen doesn't care :p
 
Weird.
I recon "New Scientist" is some sort of magazine?
 
New Scientist is one of the best science mags around, my personal favourite...

Oh, yeah, ROTFLMFAO at the "From Melbourne" comment :LOL:...
 
Hmpf, I had no choice, I had to go!
Doctor Who was on anyway...
And no, not Melbourne, Maitland in fact.

The article talks about file sharing networks and the success of such ventures, valve is mentioned in relation to steam.
The valve section only takes up a small section, here it is below

Anyway, nothing to special. The article is entitled:
"Sharing lightens the download" New Scientist 26 June 2004

"...Another trend has recently emerged. More software is being sold and downloaded online so companies selling their software - who often pay their internet service provider on a per-megabyte-downloaded basis - have experienced soaring bandwidth-usage bills. As a result, several of these firms have recently begun to look at alternative systems to distribute their products. Computer-game publisher Valve - famous for its shoot-'em-up game, Half-life - was particularly keen on BitTorrent. It hired Cohen to help develop a system based on BitTorrent to distribute updates to existing games. The new software is being made available to other games developers so they can sell their games without incurring packaging and retail costs.

Paying for an internet connection fast enough to distribute their content is too expensive for small games developers, says Gabe Newell, Valve's cheif executive. "Using the peer-to-peer model, they can push those replication costs onto their user base," he says, which users are generally happy to pick up..."

Thats all...nothing to amazing...nothing you didn't already know. I just thought it was cool they got a mention in my magazine!
 
Tiddalick said:
Hmpf, I had no choice, I had to go!
Doctor Who was on anyway...
And no, not Melbourne, Maitland in fact.

The article talks about file sharing networks and the success of such ventures, valve is mentioned in relation to steam.
The valve section only takes up a small section, here it is below

Anyway, nothing to special. The article is entitled:
"Sharing lightens the download" New Scientist 26 June 2004

"...Another trend has recently emerged. More software is being sold and downloaded online so companies selling their software - who often pay their internet service provider on a per-megabyte-downloaded basis - have experienced soaring bandwidth-usage bills. As a result, several of these firms have recently begun to look at alternative systems to distribute their products. Computer-game publisher Valve - famous for its shoot-'em-up game, Half-life - was particularly keen on BitTorrent. It hired Cohen to help develop a system based on BitTorrent to distribute updates to existing games. The new software is being made available to other games developers so they can sell their games without incurring packaging and retail costs.

Paying for an internet connection fast enough to distribute their content is too expensive for small games developers, says Gabe Newell, Valve's cheif executive. "Using the peer-to-peer model, they can push those replication costs onto their user base," he says, which users are generally happy to pick up..."

Thats all...nothing to amazing...nothing you didn't already know. I just thought it was cool they got a mention in my magazine!

Well besides for the fact that Bittorrent isn't implented in Steam yet. Could it mean that it will out by the end of this month on wednesday?
 
Calling dinner 'tea' is not a uniquely Australian thing.
 
"Using the peer-to-peer model, they can push those replication costs onto their user base," he says, which users are generally happy to pick up..."

Says YOU Gabe....

Not to mention the increased resource and bandwidth use.... Steam is quickly becoming bloatware just so Valve can increase profit at our expense. Steam is a nice concept, but after seeing all the problems with the sale of CZ over Steam I shudder at the thought of purchasing HL2 over Steam and I hope HL2's release won't effect my ability to play CS due to lack of content servers. I'll sit back and watch, but will not use Steam for purchases and if Steam does become a bloatware nightmare I'll just take my buisness elsewhere. I will only play HL2 single player offline with Valves games, and find a new multiplayer game from a different company. I hope it doesn't come to that.
 
Nice find ;)

I believe "Eating tea" or "Tea is ready" is a British term, It doesn't surprise me the Aussie's use it as well, considering all the links they have with Britain and visa versa. - I certainly use it anyway :)

edit - beaten :frog:
 
Duracell said:
Nice find ;)

I believe "Eating tea" or "Tea is ready" is a British term, It doesn't surprise me the Aussie's use it as well, considering all the links they have with Britain and visa versa. - I certainly use it anyway :)

edit - beaten :frog:


Well yes, I am positive that we would have got that from you. :)

I only wish New Scientist had thought to ask him some important questions...like release dates and whats in the Collectors Edition etc. Im sure many of their physicist readers would want to know when their favourite action man is coming back to play....Breakthroughs in REAL teleportation aside, I know thats what I want to know!
 
Australia is full of the reject convicts from all over the world that no-one wanted :) We're filthy scum that will do anything for a $
 
tkday said:
Australia is full of the reject convicts from all over the world that no-one wanted :) We're filthy scum that will do anything for a $

For some reason that makes me think that were Pirates (the Aye Matie type..not those arguing for their sins in the "Beta" release, ie stolen build)
 
tkday said:
Australia is full of the reject convicts from all over the world that no-one wanted :) We're filthy scum that will do anything for a $


Yes unlike those classy convicts that every country wants to choose from...
 
Tiddalick said:
Hmpf, I had no choice, I had to go!
Doctor Who was on anyway...
And no, not Melbourne, Maitland in fact.

omgz!!
Doctor Who was more important to him than HL2! :eek:
burn him at the stakes!!!

j/k!! :LOL:

pretty good find considering things on the news front have slowed down a bit :)
 
Dr. Freeman said:
omgz!!
Doctor Who was more important to him than HL2! :eek:
burn him at the stakes!!!

j/k!! :LOL:

pretty good find considering things on the news front have slowed down a bit :)

:p

I figured you could wait 30 minutes, especially seems it wasn't ground breaking stuff.
 
Thanks for the heads up. Haven't this weeks issue of NewScientist, will do tomorrow. Brill mag!
 
Tiddalick said:
:p

I figured you could wait 30 minutes, especially seems it wasn't ground breaking stuff.

u know what the funny thing is? i used to watch that show when i was a kid.. lol
it doesn't air anymore here :|

still...

Doctor Who > HL2?! omg buuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrn :LOL:
 
Well, this is the first time in about ten years that Doctor Who has been on Australian television... I can see Tiddalick's point of view...
 
Dr. Freeman said:
u know what the funny thing is? i used to watch that show when i was a kid.. lol
it doesn't air anymore here :|

still...

Doctor Who > HL2?! omg buuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrn :LOL:

The Australian Broadcasting Committe (our own ABC) is playing the entire series (every Doctor Who episode the BBC has, minus those destroyed of the earlier series) one episode a day. I think it's supposed to take them 3 years or something...
The BBC is making a New Doctor Who series soon, I wonder if it will be low budget like the first lot was :p

Gogo HL2 release!
 
Brian Damage said:
Well, this is the first time in about ten years that Doctor Who has been on Australian television... I can see Tiddalick's point of view...

does that mean ur taking his side?!?!

damn Brian.. i hate doing this..especially to u but...

burn him at the stakes as well!!!! :flame: :LOL:
 
ImJacksAmygdala said:
"Using the peer-to-peer model, they can push those replication costs onto their user base," he says, which users are generally happy to pick up..."

Says YOU Gabe....

Not to mention the increased resource and bandwidth use.... Steam is quickly becoming bloatware just so Valve can increase profit at our expense. Steam is a nice concept, but after seeing all the problems with the sale of CZ over Steam I shudder at the thought of purchasing HL2 over Steam and I hope HL2's release won't effect my ability to play CS due to lack of content servers. I'll sit back and watch, but will not use Steam for purchases and if Steam does become a bloatware nightmare I'll just take my buisness elsewhere. I will only play HL2 single player offline with Valves games, and find a new multiplayer game from a different company. I hope it doesn't come to that.
You know, that second para has absolutely no relation to the first. :p
Steam uses no more bandwidth than the normal downloading of games. In fact, less. I also don't see how it is *becoming* bloatware when there have been no real additional features (not counting CZ/C:G) since release. Either it is or it isn't. ;)
 
Dr. Freeman said:
does that mean ur taking his side?!?!

damn Brian.. i hate doing this..especially to u but...

burn him at the stakes as well!!!! :flame: :LOL:

Heheh... Oh, I assure you that by the time Half Life 2 is released and I have bought myself a copy, I'll just be whacking the tape in the VCR and pressing record every weekday afternoon (Except Fridays...), and I probably won't watch the taped episodes until I've finished HL2...
 
New Scientist is Dr.Mossman... from the E304 video.... duh...
 
I hope that was a joke and not a post that you made when you couldn't be bothered to read the thread :p ...
 
I'm more likely to have a chicken sandwich or an egg 'n' bacon butty for dinner...
 
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