Valve: No, we haven't finished killing CS! /sadistic laugh

[Atomic_Piggy]

Absuloustly. 1.6 FTW!

 

[Solaris]

uh yea.....sure the only reason people are good at a game is because they have played it for so long. i do terriblly when switching from css to cs 1.6 and vice versa. so you cant say a game is better or worse.

Wrong. Get someone whos played cs1.6 for a year, against someone who's played for 3 days. And the score will be 20-1 or something like that. Do the same on source and you'll get 15-7. Theres less skill in the game.

I'm not attacking source players. Just, you're the netball players of the basketball community.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Sigh.
The difference between 1.6 and source is huge. They may look the same, but they play very differently. 1.6 has a greater learning curve, and more skill. It's more tactical, and has more players. Its the better game. If you want graphics, look outside.

Ok lets just get one thing straight...they definetly don't LOOK the same :bounce:

 

[W4E]

Competition is for the people who want to prove themselves.

Thats stupid... People who are in football teams are trying to "prove themselves"? im sure they see how people who just kick a ball around for fun are missing out. And when they're told that its better to just play for fun they probably take offence.

I'm dreading the day valve realise 70% of players play 1.6, an start to update it EEEEK =/

"We've made some minor changes to the walls. We decided to remove them to add atmosphere. We hope you enjoy playtesting this new addition over the coming weeks"

Have they ever gone back over changes after they find the community hates it.

 

[Solaris]

Lol. Match playing is really fun. Spending ages planning stuff, making positions ect. for it all to fall apart when your teammate shoots you in the back or something.

 

[Dekstar]

Wrong. Get someone whos played cs1.6 for a year, against someone who's played for 3 days. And the score will be 20-1 or something like that. Do the same on source and you'll get 15-7. Theres less skill in the game.

That's funny...

Got that to 20-0 before he accused me and left. Doubt he was new to the game either.
I think you just suck, tbh. But I really think you should stick to 1.6 anyway. I'm sure the 'noobs' on source will be given a better start at owning pr0's if you weren't around to make their score slightly more mediocre.

Thats stupid... People who are in football teams are trying to "prove themselves"? im sure they see how people who just kick a ball around for fun are missing out. And when they're told that its better to just play for fun they probably take offence.
...

I didn't understand, could you put it differently?

 

[destrukt]

I read quite well, the way this thread sound is you are annoyed/pissed off about the changes, because if you weren't you probably wouldn't have made this thread. Instead of doing so go back to the "older" version of the game is still a possibility.

No, you haven't read any of my posts, go read my first one than you will realise how useless/silly yours have been.

Get over the 'LOLOL GO BACK TO 1.6 OR DON'T UPDATE' - that's obviously a stupid suggestion and does not fix the problem. It's also quote ironic.

uh yea.....sure the only reason people are good at a game is because they have played it for so long. i do terriblly when switching from css to cs 1.6 and vice versa. so you cant say a game is better or worse.

I think you're just bad than as I and many other <= 1.6 players easily win in source.

Also, how long you've spent playing doesn't matter and is a poor excuse. There are people who have been playing for years and are just mediocre and there are ones who have been playing for a couple of months and are freaking good.

I've been playing FPS for a long time and I can pick up any be good 'automatically' (First time I played Q4 MP was in a tournament and I came third beating a bunch who had been playing it since launch) because once you've played a few, the rest are very similar and you use the same tactics etc.



The good thing about source is that it has taken Valve's attention off 1.6, so no dodgy updates.

Also, by the thread title it was obviously being satirical (See: my first freaking post) and you guys are way more serious/worked up than us 'haters.'

 

[Asus]

I don't mind weapon price changes. That won't completely change gameplay, just alter how soon someone can get a better gun.

Wrong. Get someone whos played cs1.6 for a year, against someone who's played for 3 days. And the score will be 20-1 or something like that. Do the same on source and you'll get 15-7. Theres less skill in the game.

I'm not attacking source players. Just, you're the netball players of the basketball community.

I disagree. You could reverse the situation and it would be similar. The player who has played the other game a long time will have to adjust to the game he hasn't played much. Whether you are going from CS->CSS or CSS->CS. And the new player will still die all the time. If you know the points in the map and how to aim in either game then you'll win easy against any unsuspecting noob.

Actually I'd think CSS takes more skill because there is more things you have to take into account to be good such as your traction, how nades bounce, flash bangs blinding, fallen cabnets in your way... (grrr) etc. There is more freedom in CS for movement and such.

I used to play CS all the time. Then I switched to source. The traction wasn't as good and physics objects can get in the way. But other than that it's basicly the same gameplay. I love the fact that nades do not go through walls on Source (even though I would use that to my advantage all the time before). I've stopped playing CSS and resumed a few times, sometimes close to a year break. Sometimes I jumped back into CSS without any need to get used to it (Headshot, Headshot etc) but this last time I had to get myself used to it again. But I'm back to where I was with CS. I always keep my crosshair at head level and take 1-2 burst shots. Listening for footsteps through walls for those lovely "omg you hack!" kills. lol
No one ever seems to walk anymore... oh well.

 

[destrukt]

Listening for footsteps through walls for those lovely "omg you hack!" kills. lol
No one ever seems to walk anymore... oh well.

The glory that is 1.6

Source on pub seems to be just 'run and gun' and I actually miss having to say "It's not CPL buddy." ;(

 

[giant384]

I don't mind weapon price changes. That won't completely change gameplay, just alter how soon someone can get a better gun.

I disagree. You could reverse the situation and it would be similar. The player who has played the other game a long time will have to adjust to the game he hasn't played much. Whether you are going from CS->CSS or CSS->CS. And the new player will still die all the time. If you know the points in the map and how to aim in either game then you'll win easy against any unsuspecting noob.

Actually I'd think CSS takes more skill because there is more things you have to take into account to be good such as your traction, how nades bounce, flash bangs blinding, fallen cabnets in your way... (grrr) etc. There is more freedom in CS for movement and such.

I used to play CS all the time. Then I switched to source. The traction wasn't as good and physics objects can get in the way. But other than that it's basicly the same gameplay. I love the fact that nades do not go through walls on Source (even though I would use that to my advantage all the time before). I've stopped playing CSS and resumed a few times, sometimes close to a year break. Sometimes I jumped back into CSS without any need to get used to it (Headshot, Headshot etc) but this last time I had to get myself used to it again. But I'm back to where I was with CS. I always keep my crosshair at head level and take 1-2 burst shots. Listening for footsteps through walls for those lovely "omg you hack!" kills. lol
No one ever seems to walk anymore... oh well.

exactly my point

Wrong. Get someone whos played cs1.6 for a year, against someone who's played for 3 days. And the score will be 20-1 or something like that. Do the same on source and you'll get 15-7. Theres less skill in the game.

I'm not attacking source players. Just, you're the netball players of the basketball community.

how does that prove a game is better??? theres differences in each game theres no way the outcome can be the same. like asus said switching from game to game takes time and you have to adapt to the skill level in that game. then once you go back to the game you havent played in awhile then you will most likely be terrible at it.

 

[Jack_Karverboy]

I think every update they've had so far is good, so this one will be too.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Yep. And I'm just saying I think 1.6 is better. I was afraid to say at first, but when Solaris confessed his love so did I. But I never had any problems with the updates, save for the fact they took out the tact. shield just because some noobs couldn't kill people with it.

 

[Solaris]

Yup.
1.6 is by far the better game.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

If all the CS:S haters think that 1.6 is the better game, then I don't see a problem. Just...go and play 1.6. Ta-da!

 

[-Psy-]

CS 1.6 isn't technically a better game though

Anyway, each to his own.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

If all the CS:S haters think that 1.6 is the better game, then I don't see a problem. Just...go and play 1.6. Ta-da!

Well you know how smart the CS community is! :|

 

[DEATHMASTER]

>_>

 

[W4E]

I didn't understand, could you put it differently?

Dont know what i was on whilst typing it before, but what im trying to say is playing pub might just be for fun - but its very limited and is boring compared to organised match type games.

 

[Dekstar]

Dont know what i was on whilst typing it before, but what im trying to say is playing pub might just be for fun - but its very limited and is boring compared to organised match type games.

That is true. I have tried clanning and it does have that extra something. But the whole rigmarole of "Do this here and throw this there then hump this with this cucumber" just puts me off. Specially since I'm used to pubs and their "1-man army" appeal.

 

[W4E]

Thats what you usually find in pub clans. 13 year old kids who wear tags on their server who tell you what to do as though they think they're a military leader.

Real clans dont bother with all the "do this exact thing" bollocks, just basic plans really.

Oh and in that ss you posted, think i know him =o

 

[giant384]

Thats what you usually find in pub clans. 13 year old kids who wear tags on their server who tell you what to do as though they think they're a military leader.

Real clans dont bother with all the "do this exact thing" bollocks, just basic plans really.

Oh and in that ss you posted, think i know him =o

never seen someone do that. just cuss them out or something until the noobs leave. you dont have to listen to him. even though it is true they are annoying lol and shouldnt be playing the game.

 

[destrukt]

If all the CS:S haters think that 1.6 is the better game, then I don't see a problem. Just...go and play 1.6. Ta-da!

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

Your [tired/annoying] issue is silly, if you don't like whats changing in the game DON'T ****ING PLAY IT. Is it really that hard to comprehend now? You are saying the same thing over and over again. Either get used to the changes they are making or just play a new game, sitting here whinning about something that hasn't even happened is tits tbh.

 

[destrukt]

DON'T ****ING PLAY IT.

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

Is it really that hard to comprehend now?

You are saying the same thing over and over again. Either get used to the changes they are making or just play a new game, sitting here whinning about something that hasn't even happened is tits tbh.

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

Either get used to the changes they are making or just play a new game, sitting here whinning about something that hasn't even happened is tits tbh.

I was obviously making a joke out of it and notice how I didn't say anything besides the title (See above: joke) and the smiley, so where was I criticising it ? OH SNAP I WASN'T.

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

READ MY POSTS, IT'S FUN, TRUST ME.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

No, I've read every post in this thread. The comprehension issue is yours. Repeatedly telling people to read the posts when they obviously already have is [tired] silly.

 

[destrukt]

No, I've read every post in this thread. The comprehension issue is yours. Repeatedly telling people to read the

posts when they obviously already have is [tired] silly.

Nah.

Let's start off with one of my earlier posts (Page 1, http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2037782&postcount=15) where if you had read, would've hinted at how silly your post would be, even if others had no posted before you.

Exhibit A, page 2.

You aren't being forced to keep on playing the game, if you aren't liking whats being changed you can always go

back to playing 1.6....

Exhibit B, page 2.

Or select "don't update".

Exhibit C, page 3 - whoa, this was you, as in you, YOU ! /universe collapes.

So stick to 1.6

Exhibit D, page 4 - it's me, ma, i'm on tv !

No, you haven't read any of my posts, go read my first one than you will realise how useless/silly yours have been.

Get over the 'LOLOL GO BACK TO 1.6 OR DON'T UPDATE' - that's obviously a stupid suggestion and does not fix the problem. It's also quote ironic.

Also, by the thread title it was obviously being satirical (See: my first freaking post) and you guys are way more serious/worked up than us 'haters.'

Exhibit E, page 4 - who is that.. I can't make out the name ?!

If all the CS:S haters think that 1.6 is the better game, then I don't see a problem. Just...go and play 1.6.

Ta-da!

Exhibit F, page 5.

Your [tired/annoying] issue is silly, if you don't like whats changing in the game DON'T ****ING PLAY IT. Is it

really that hard to comprehend now? You are saying the same thing over and over again. Either get used to the changes they are making or

just play a new game, sitting here whinning about something that hasn't even happened is tits tbh.

Now for extra fun, here's another quote.

No, I've read every post in this thread. The comprehension issue is yours. Repeatedly telling people to read the

posts when they obviously already have is [tired] silly.

LOLOL. /dies



Lighten up fellas, I was obviously making a joke out of it and notice how I didn't say anything besides the title (See above: joke) and remember, don't take the interwebs seriously.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

(Not directed at you Destrukt ) I DO NOT HATE CS:S. I PLAY IT MORE THAN CS 1.6 CAUSE MY FRIENDS PLAY IT. I JUST PREFER CS 1.6.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Nah.

Let's start off with one of my earlier posts (Page 1, http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2037782&postcount=15) where if you had read, would've hinted at how silly your post would be, even if others had no posted before you.

You might want to trim that ego back a bit, sunshine. Only my last post was responding to you. Also, for the record, telling people that playing 1.6 if they don't like CS:S is silly doesn't actually make it so. You're not the arbiter of truth, justice and counterstrike.

 

[destrukt]

(Not directed at you Destrukt ) I DO NOT HATE CS:S. I PLAY IT MORE THAN CS 1.6 CAUSE MY FRIENDS PLAY IT. I JUST PREFER CS 1.6.

<3

.. also, what kind of a friend are you ? I mean, friends don't let friends play CS:S !

You might want to trim that ego back a bit, sunshine. Only my last post was responding to you. Also, for the record, telling people that playing 1.6 if they don't like CS:S is silly doesn't actually make it so. You're not the arbiter of truth, justice and counterstrike.

My ego is perfectly fine, mate. If I knew I was wrong, or there was a >= 50% of being wrong I would be slightly less.. something (See: reference to post being failsafe ).

Well, in retort "Play 1.6 if you don't like Source" with "Don't click on this thread if you're serious and don't like the content" - see, even as a quick fix it is silly !

Like hell I'm not the arbiter of CS, if I don't know who will help these poor fools ?!

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Not the same thing at all. Some people are saying, quite clearly, that 1.6 is vastly superior to CS:S. That being the case, why are they complaining about CS:S when they could be playing 1.6 in all its perfection?

 

[bigburpco]

Wait a minute - destrukt, how exactly is playing 1.6 because you prefer it 'silly'?

 

[Dekstar]

Oh and in that ss you posted, think i know him =o

Tell him I don't hack then

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Wait a minute - destrukt, how exactly is playing 1.6 because you prefer it 'silly'?

I find it quite humorous that he suggest 1.6 is better yet he complain abouts them updating Source etc. why not just cut out the issue and play the first version? Cmon lets think about this. Again you're dragging out another stupid issue because you don't like how VALVe will be changing the core-gameplay. Well guess what the original is still avaliable, its called 1.6 *gasps* destrukt please get over yourself sometime soon and realize that, and don't say I haven't read a post in this thread, because I did.

 

[-Psy-]

All in all it's just a game.

 

[giant384]

All in all it's just a game.

sums it up for me

 

[Asus]

What if we end a CS thread with CS video.

 

[giant384]

What if we end a CS thread with CS video.

lawl wow......that just leaves me speechless

 

[destrukt]

Not the same thing at all. Some people are saying, quite clearly, that 1.6 is vastly superior to CS:S. That being the case, why are they complaining about CS:S when they could be playing 1.6 in all its perfection?

Are those people actually complaining about Source ? From what I can remember of the pro-1.6 posts they don't complain about source really, except for maybe saying they're the 'netball players of the basketball community' (I'm stealing that line ). See, you people are so worked up you're imagining us complaining ! You guys turned a harmless joke (See my post I've refered to several times) and a little news update for some people into some big "OMG LEAVE VALVE ALONE YOU CANT DO ANY BETTER YOR UGLY PLAY 1.6"

Wait a minute - destrukt, how exactly is playing 1.6 because you prefer it 'silly'?

Wait a minute - bigburpco; you didn't read any of the thread except maybe 1 or 2 of my posts and now you suddenly think you know what I'm talking about ? You know how you're having a conversation with someone and you're near the end than some random person will walk up, hear 1 or 2 keywords and suddenly think they know everything you've been talking about ? That random person is you.

So, I in no freaking way said that playing 1.6 because you prefer it is silly, and if you intend on joining on threads 5 pages late, at least read the posts before making a reply, ok, thanks mate.

I find it quite humorous that he suggest 1.6 is better yet he complain abouts them updating Source etc. why not just cut out the issue and play the first version? Cmon lets think about this. Again you're dragging out another stupid issue because you don't like how VALVe will be changing the core-gameplay. Well guess what the original is still avaliable, its called 1.6 *gasps* destrukt please get over yourself sometime soon and realize that, and don't say I haven't read a post in this thread, because I did.

Wow, you know, after the last 10 times I repeated myself, I still forgave you [guys], but gee, after this I don't think I could read your posts without imagining some ugly kid in a trailer covered in his own poo and is struggling to figure out what comes after C in the alphabet.

What I'm saying is, I've addressed everything you just said, several times, and you simply don't understand my posts because you have either not read them or taken the time to understand the simple things they're saying. I am not dragging out any issue, I did not make an issue, like I said (Literally, this is about the 8th time) I was making a joke and just updating people and people like you blew this out of proportion because you don't read posts or just can't understand simple posts, or both.

So, since you claim you've read every post I'll deduct that you're simply clueless and have little comprehension. So, good day sir. /tips hat

What if we end a CS thread with CS video.

Capped, I can't watch it. ;(



Anyway, you guys need to settle down and most importantly READ MY POSTS, and than THINK ABOUT THEM, for SEVERAL MINUTES (OR HOURS).

- I'm not going to bother to write more than a sentence unless someone reads my posts and understands the simple points they're getting across, so, you'll either get "THANK YOU! Let's have a proper discussion now" or "Dropping out of high school is bad as are drugs."
- I should've done another quote reply, that might've gotten the message across.. wait, it didn't last time, oh well. /pities

Disclaimer: Don't get worked up by my posts, if you think you're being insulted read back a few lines and you will see that I am always being sarcastic and just making a point. Don't be serious, please, just don't, it's bad for your hair.

 

[Asus]

I really only saw DiSTuRbEd comment that he didn't think you were being sarcastic. Most of the other responses are about something different (what CS version they perfer). What I don't get is this response.

If all the CS:S haters think that 1.6 is the better game, then I don't see a problem. Just...go and play 1.6. Ta-da!

That's the thing, you don't see a problem and it appears you haven't read too many posts in this thread, so your [tired] solution is silly.

FYI the video was the the old APC Public Service Announcement on cs_siege.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

destrukt apparently isn't comprehending what people are writing. He also seems to think that everyone is replying to him, when they're actually replying to the people that were slating CS:S and saying that 1.6 was better.