Viking Seaxe

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Just trying to get some opinions on my newest model. Not sure if it's of quality standards for my HL2 mod. As it stands right now, it's 403 polygons. I've forgotten what the poly limit for max-detailed models in HL2 will be, could someone refresh my memory?

Can't attach the image, so I've uploaded it, and the reference to my site.

http://www.pseudoexistence.com/seaxe2.jpg
http://www.pseudoexistence.com/harri.jpg
 
Um that isn't an axe, and that guy doesn't look like a viking, looks more like a bear.
 
If thats a viking, then I'll go and punish the viking museum in Oslo (Norway). As Maxi said: Its not a axe, its a knife\sword. And that guy looks like an indian...

Research anyone?
 
A little research will do wonders, you two. A "seaxe" is the evolved form of the Saxon short sword.

-Scott
 
I'm glad to see you two are such experts on vikings. However, my concept artist has done a lot of medieval studying so I think I'll trust him more than I'll trust you. Oh, and this is a 'seaxe', don't tell me to do my research when you obviously haven't done yours.

http://www.regia.org/seax.htm
 
Thanks Oatmeal and Brian, I was posting my reply as you two were posting yours ;)
 
And no, that does not look like a viking... I do actually come from scandinavia and the Viking era is pretty important here, so we learn alot about it in school..

That does look like a medivial militia man, but that is by no means a viking.
 
Well, considering you didn't know what a seaxe is, I'm going to ignore any comments from you about viking history. I came here looking for some constructive criticism on my model, not an erroneous argument on the appearance of our viking spy-class. Please save your comments unless they are related to the structure and appearance of the model.
 
seaxe does not play a part in viking history.. or, not in scandinavian vinking history anyway. Thats probably why they thought you meant a axe, since vikings often use that. The concept is ok, but it does not look like any viking I have ever seen. Looks more like a cross between a ninja and a viking using face paint like the indians.. looks like he is suppose to be an assasin or something.. since he has a blowgun and that small "knife" and it looks like he is sneaking around.. Vikings were more of a straight forward hack&slash kind of people ;)

As I said, nice concept.. but viking? I would not have guessed so.
 
He's a spy/assassin class for the Viking team. I know he doesn't have the stereotypical Scandinavian viking appearance, but of the tribes throughout germany, ukraine, russia, etc. I'm sure there were Viking spies. If not, he comes from the imagination of my concept artist, who seems to have adapted his name from an eastern asian culture. But, as I said, I'd like comments on the model itself, not the concept. But thank you for being reasonable with your reply.
 
Oh come on; How many vikings got spys or assassins? They are "hack&slash" people, not sneaky guys ;) Vikings can be divided into 3 kinds of people; Leaders, Warriors and civs. (women, children etc.), not spys ;)
I got the thing with the seaxe now, but just "axe" makes me thing of an axe, not a knife...

Listen to Beldor, I think he knows what he is talking about (hes norwegian :P)...
 
the model itself is a tad bland, but that would be fixed up with the texture. the little nobble on the bottom of the handle, maybe put it in a different smoothing group, make it stand out more. also, the blade is very blunt, and in a battle, that'd be about as good as a monkey with one shoe.

looks interesting, i like yur concept, ignore that arse Maxi, with his three word phrases and negative comments. by looking at it again, i think you could have made the bottom of the handle a bit more interesting, like a shell, with three curving parts, all coming together at the bottom of either side.

*edit* just read you wanted the polycounts. for most weapon models, its 2000, but more detailed/bigger/important things, 2500.
 
Guys, do as CrazyTalk said. Comment the model, not the concept (which looks really nice :)).

Thanks.
 
Thank you random and majestic, I don't really know much about bump mapping, but I figured that could add most of the detail into the model that hasn't been added thusfar. As for the blade being dull, I'm not sure why you think that. I'll work on the 'shell' look a little, to help it stand out, especially since I have about 1500 more polies to work with, and that part will be the most visible in first-person too. Of course, I'm not going to add polygons just because i can, the less the better, reguardless of what the engine can handle.

As for vikings not having spies, I'm really not positive if they did or not, but I wouldn't take your advice on the matter anyway. No offense. (st0lve) Besides, the other two teams will have a spy/assassin class, so it only seems fair the vikings do as well. You know, to keep the balace.
And since this mod has Pirates in it, it's not exactly going to be the most realistic thing ever, so I wouldn't worry about it. (Since Pirates weren't around in the same time period as vikings and knights.)
 
Still you can't call him a viking he doesn't even look like one. Here is one site that i found that proves that vikings did not look like that http://viking.no/e/life/eclothes.htm There's a link on that page that also shows what they wore in Battle. This is not an attack against you, im just stating that if you're gonna make a mod with Vikings i think you should make them look like Vikings and not like Indians. I also searched for Viking weapons and i diddn't find a site that has the blowpipe as a Viking weapon. I did however find one site that had the Seaxe, but it said it was an Anglo-Saxon design, so it was mostly used by the Vikings in England, and not the ones in Germany / Northern Europe.

Here are two more of the sites i found concerning the weapons:
http://www.medievalweaponsinfo.com/Viking-Weapons.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/vikings/weapons_03.shtml

Take this as you wan't but not as an attack. I am mearly stating that your concept art does not look like a Viking, and they did not have spies or assasins.
 
Where did CrazyTalk say the Vikings in the mod are from Germany/Northern Europe?

And as Crazy said, the mod isn't gonna be the most realistic mod ever done, and it's not striving to be. Crazy's argument was that the vikings needed the spy to balance the vikings against the other teams. If you have an idea of a class that can replace the spy but still keep that balance, i'd love to hear it.
 
A Viking thats more lightly armoured and use lighter weapons then the "normal" Vikings perhaps? like a scout or something.
 
Maxi, either go to another thread, or comment on the model. You obviously have a hard time understanding things, and I'm not going to repeat what I've already said. So leave this thread alone unless you plan on commenting on the model itself. Swallow your pride for once, and stop trying to get in the last word.
 
All I changed was the smoothing on the end of the handle. It stands out a bit more, but I wasn't sure what you were talking about with the whole shell look. I gave a closeup of the blade too, because there seems to be confusion with the sharpness of it.

http://www.pseudoexistence.com/seaxe3.jpg
 
Hmm it looks good, however i think it would be cool to see it a little crooked, since back in those days they diddn't have perfectly straight swords n stuff. Otherwise it looks cool, I really like the handle.
 
^^ haha

yeah it looks better, you might want to sharpen up the top end, if you were to stab someone with that, it wouldnt go in very clean. oh, and what youve done with the bottom of the handle, thats what i meant when i was trying to explain it, i thought it was just a small bobble on the end. but arent swords sharp on all sides ??
 
I'm not sure if seaxes are sharp on all sides or not, I think they're more for chopping than stabbing.
 
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