Vista Requirements

so can someone please tell me how switching from xp to vista will benefit me?
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It's like 3.1 to 95.

64 bit community, totally gets rid of the registry system with a newer XML type system. It's dramatically quicker than XP. More Multiprocessing support(Vista dosn't have to wait for one thing to do the other). The system itself takes full advantage of 3D video cards.
Just about every single windows component and how everything works has had an extremely massive overhaul.

Overall it's one massive leap. It isn't just a redefined interface.
 
holy crap 2gb gddr3 memory
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Well 1gig 32bit == 2gig 64bit.
That leap is required. No matter what we will eventually have to make the leap. And thats for maximum performance, not minimum. Even with 512 - 1gig it should still run nice, and with graphic card acceleration even running Aero(Not Glass) it should still run much faster than XP.
 
At least the graphics on the desktop will be taken over by the GFX card and not the CPU. For those of you with large wallpapers or icons littering their desktop.
 
now im aware im probably wrong here, but it seems to me that vista would detract from gaming performance. I mean if all those resources are needed just to run the OS than whats left for gaming?
 
The desktop gfx won't be showing when you go to a 3D game. The 2GB memory, dual core, NCQ harddrive are just things that will help speed up the larger data that they are expecting in the future (64bit HD video content etc). And if you are running the 64bit version with 64bit games/apps then the memory will help a lot.

These are recommended requirements fyi not min.
 
Minerel said:
It's like 3.1 to 95.

64 bit community, totally gets rid of the registry system with a newer XML type system. It's dramatically quicker than XP. More Multiprocessing support(Vista dosn't have to wait for one thing to do the other). The system itself takes full advantage of 3D video cards.
Just about every single windows component and how everything works has had an extremely massive overhaul.

Overall it's one massive leap. It isn't just a redefined interface.
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I know they've been cuting alot of the new features, so it isnt going to be quite that big of an improvment.
 
I know they've been cuting alot of the new features, so it isnt going to be quite that big of an improvment.
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Well I know they were cutting WinFX(I think or somtin like that) and releasing it in a patch, but I believe some of it is in Beta 1(or was found).

Even though, they will be released later as microsoft said.
 
Minerel said:
Well I know they were cutting WinFX(I think or somtin like that) and releasing it in a patch, but I believe some of it is in Beta 1(or was found).

Even though, they will be released later as microsoft said.
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Yah, I'm wondering if the people who say "everything" has been cut has only heard abotu Beta1, which dosent really have any of the new features, but the future Betas will.
 
Yah, I'm wondering if the people who say "everything" has been cut has only heard abotu Beta1, which dosent really have any of the new features, but the future Betas will.
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Probably, people can get confused easily these days.
Specifically when you get to big "M$ sucks" people. Then they will do anything possible to confuse the rest of the people who arn't knowledgable at all.
 
so if your computer is used for gaming, internet, and mild school work than can all be done using ms word, vista would be a pointless upgrade?
 
jellydoughnut217 said:
so if your computer is used for gaming, internet, and mild school work than can all be done using ms word, vista would be a pointless upgrade?
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well yea its pointless to get it right when it comes out but mabye a year or so u will need it
 
giant384 said:
well yea its pointless to get it right when it comes out but mabye a year or so u will need it
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... For MS Word? :p

You'll only need Vista if you're going to be running 64-bit apps. Besides, there are people that still use Windows 98 :p
 
I think I can run Vista since I just got a 4800+. The memory DDR3 thing is kinda bogus since current AMD boards use PC3200 which is reg DDR. Maybe Intel needs DDR3 cause Intel licks hairy funky sack at the moment.
 
Stigmata said:
... For MS Word? :p

You'll only need Vista if you're going to be running 64-bit apps. Besides, there are people that still use Windows 98 :p
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WINDOWS VISTA not ms word lol i said u prob. need it a year after it comes out to run some programs
 
You'll only need Vista if you're going to be running 64-bit apps. Besides, there are people that still use Windows 98
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Well guess what?
Do you think Developers want to take advantage of new 64bit things, and such in Vista?
Ohhh yes.

Games will start being 64bit, just about all your progrms will start turning into 64bit programs. The change to 32 to 64bit is required just as the change from 16 to 32bit was. It has to come sometime.

Eventually you will need Vista. Vista's 64 programs WILL NOT work on XP, 2000, ME, 98. Not because that microsofts fault no matter what they wouldn't work 64bit programs wont work on 32bit system.

Vista introduces alot more stuff, secruity wise, performance wise, etc... A new programming model, API's changed a bit. These are things that programmers are gonna want to take advantage of, and the faster we move people from 32 to 64bit the smoother and faster we will reach new higher end technology for computers.

If no one changes over to Vista right away, rather than having 64bit games in 1 1/2 to 2 years right now, maybe like 3 or 4. 64bit graphics will provide a substancial graphics, physics, etc... leap.
 
One big thing that still isn't part of the OS is that it automatically updates graphic drivers.
 
If Vista has HDCP I won't buy it. I DON'T want to buy a new monitor just so that I can watch my DVD's. I'll stick to XP.
 
Insane said:
One big thing that still isn't part of the OS is that it automatically updates graphic drivers.
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that would not be good since some drivers vary on different video cards
 
I don't think it messes with DVDs as they are now. But the HD content that is much higher resolution and coverts them down. I would think it would convert it down to 720X480. I'm not worried about the monitor or HDCP thing just yet. Not until the movie market switches from DVD to Blueray or whatever format they choose for HD Movies.
 
alright so if the main reason to upgrade to vista is for 64 bit applications why the hell pay all the extra money for it when it comes out when theres windoes XP 64? Wont that run all the 64 bit applications just the same as vista?
 
I'll be sticking with my copy of XP for at least a 6 months after Vista is released, to see if it catches on. Mayve wait a year after.
 
I'm just gonna hold out until a few months after all the new tech starts coming out (blu ray, dx10, ddr3, 64-bit apps, etc.), for prices to go down. I mean cd burners used to be a few hundred bux when they first came out. About 6 months later? about 100 bux. Now they can be had for under 50.

Besides, I'm sure I wont really NEED a new comp till HL3 comes out :D
 
Yeah this is one of those releases that won't have everyone converting right away. Think Windows ME but instead of crashes think compatibility and upgrade pains.
 
i was just about to ask about windows ME...what the hell happened to that ne ways? Did it just suck?
 
Wont that run all the 64 bit applications just the same as vista?
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It will run 64bit applications. But some things may not 100% work if they require certain vista things. Since Vista is one massive overhaul.
Lets not also forget on all the improvments vista has. Why get the lower quailty Xp 64 when you can get full graphics acceleration on your system with Vista and well you can be sure to run everything(for windows). Less secruity and soo much more with Xp 64 compared to Vista.

I will probably upgrade rather quick just to get ahold of it and really learn to use it and take advantage of everything early.
 
Asus said:
The desktop gfx won't be showing when you go to a 3D game. The 2GB memory, dual core, NCQ harddrive are just things that will help speed up the larger data that they are expecting in the future (64bit HD video content etc). And if you are running the 64bit version with 64bit games/apps then the memory will help a lot.

These are recommended requirements fyi not min.
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okay...if one were building a system come X-mas with Vista in mind, what kinda system would u put together? im curious because i am so out of the loop here.

edit: is there a release date for Vista? not that i'll be running to the store as soon as its available.. infact i'll probably be waiting at least a year after release to get Vista.
 
"There's a LOT of encryption and decryption going on. We communicate on the PCI Express bus in a fully encrypted format because it is considered a public bus.

"The downside is that all your existing flat panel monitors and projectors aren't going to work with high-def videos in Vista. Bad news."
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1: Why would they encrypt the PCI-e bus? I'm guessing to keep other apps from getting their hands on, say, protected DVD content?

2: oh HELL no
 
Dr. Freeman said:
okay...if one were building a system come X-mas with Vista in mind, what kinda system would u put together? im curious because i am so out of the loop here.

edit: is there a release date for Vista? not that i'll be running to the store as soon as its available.. infact i'll probably be waiting at least a year after release to get Vista.
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Last I heard late 2006/early 2007 release window.
If I didn't have the PC I do now and I bought a PC today it would be Dual Core (personally Athlon X2 3800+) with 1 or 2 GB of memory with a 6800GT.
 
Asus said:
Last I heard late 2006/early 2007 release window.
If I didn't have the PC I do now and I bought a PC today it would be Dual Core (personally Athlon X2 3800+) with 1 or 2 GB of memory with a 6800GT.
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hmm..late 2006?
should i just wait til closer to Vista release to upgrade?
what i don't want is to get something now, or some time in the near future only to have be very average specs for Vista even tho i may not purchase the OS when released.. i do want to be well beyond the requirements for it.
 
Dr. Freeman said:
hmm..late 2006?
should i just wait til closer to Vista release to upgrade?
what i don't want is to get something now, or some time in the near future only to have be very average specs for Vista even tho i may not purchase the OS when released.. i do want to be well beyond the requirements for it.
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I'd say wait. No point upgrading now for something you are going to be using in 2007. By that time, who knows what sort of technology will exist.
 
well ill be getting a free copy of this anyways, so im not to worried. but from the looks of it ill be dual booting vista and xp so i can have the best of both worlds
 
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