Weird Arguments #1

[AzzMan]

now that depends what they are using it for,, this is 1940's/1950's discovered technology that has been ignored because of the already established status quo, the antigravity technologies arnt just new technology, they give insight into other operandi of our universe, that changes peoples view of science and life quite drastically, for the established status quo thats not a good thing atall, it threatens the integrity of their job, and belief's, so the technology is easy to contain, It render's rocket's obsolete , not good news for fuel company's, it superseed's the potential for everything transport based not good news for lockheed, and boeing's present market. Also most pronounceably because we are perpetuated to believe that it's 'science fiction' and therefore isnt real. What people cant concieve or calculate often result's in ignorance and lack of belief, but its not about belief its about the physical reality of these covert technologies, that are astounding, eletrokinetic's is another coined phraise for antigravity , google it.

But Russia also has the technology, its a black project stand off. The real power here comes from knowledge

Bleh that should be no reason to hold back technology. If they can't keep up with the times then too bad. Suck it up.

 

[bliink]

We need to settle this in a game of BF2 one day.

Count me in!

 

[Datrix]

This is pretty old, but reading things like this makes you think what kind of fight are they preparing for?

 

[VirusType2]

Oh please,

If USA decided to take over the Earth for beavers...

I don't recognize ur location, but Im offended that people might even think we want to take over the world, be compared to Nazi-Germany, or even wonder If we could kick the worlds ass-please.

USA is defensive, not offensive, but sometimes u have to take the offensive to put yourself in a safer situation.

Just to humor you though, I will say if there were no nuclear weapons in exsitance, no, USA would not win against the whole world.

With nuclear weapons? Unknown, im sure it would be ugly, Id rather not think about the appocolypse

 

[Datrix]

Oh please,

If USA decided to take over the Earth for beavers...

I don't recognize ur location, but Im offended that people might even think we want to take over the world, be compared to Nazi-Germany, or even wonder If we could kick the worlds ass-please.

USA is defensive, not offensive, but sometimes u have to take the offensive to put yourself in a safer situation.

Calm down, Its supposed to be funny. And I'm sure If the US ever wanted to take over the world they would do It by slowly controling all of the worlds economy anyway.

 

[bliink]

This is pretty old, but reading things like this makes you think what kind of fight are they preparing for?

sounds like an e-penis contest to me.

"My bomb is bigger than yours!"
"Oh yeah, well my bomb penetrates deeper than yours!"
"Well mine has a massive payload!"


(sad note- I could go on like that forever!)

 

[The Dark Elf]

sounds like an e-penis contest to me.

"My bomb is bigger than yours!"
"Oh yeah, well my bomb penetrates deeper than yours!"
"Well mine has a massive payload!"


(sad note- I could go on like that forever!)

lmao

 

[Datrix]

sounds like an e-penis contest to me.

"My bomb is bigger than yours!"
"Oh yeah, well my bomb penetrates deeper than yours!"
"Well mine has a massive payload!"


(sad note- I could go on like that forever!)

Yeah, and really what is the point of a Nuclear Bunker Buster? Its... like using a fire hose to fill an eye dropper? (sorry couldn't think of anything better to say :E )

 

[VirusType2]

Calm down, Its supposed to be funny. And I'm sure If the US ever wanted to take over the world they would do It by slowly controling all of the worlds economy anyway.

OK, but the US is like 400 years old, and besides Alaska, which was bought from russia, and Hawaii,(not sure how we got that,I have been out of school for almost a decade. ), USA has Not aquired new territory since we established 50 states hundreds of years ago - we don't need new territory. We have vast open areas that are undeveloped in almost every State - plenty of room.

 

[Solaris]

This is really the idea of "Mutually Assured Destruction" This was what happened in the cold war. Neither side could attack the other becuase both sides could completeley obliterate the other.

If it was America V the world this what would happen. Everyone would leave america alone and let it take over south america. Or else they would die..

 

[Datrix]

OK, but the US is like 400 years old, and besides Alaska, which was bought from russia, and Hawaii,(not sure how we got that,I have been out of school for almost a decade. ), USA has Not aquired new territory since we established 50 states hundreds of years ago - we don't need new territory. We have vast open areas that are undeveloped in almost every State - plenty of room.

I have the same feeling living here in Canada, plenty of room. Except for those damn, dirty Eskimos that live in and control the North, they take up half our land. jk

 

[ríomhaire]

They would have to defent 3 HUGE fronts, not a very easy thing. And the hippies would start a revolution

 

[Datrix]

They would have to defent 3 HUGE fronts, not a very easy thing. And the hippies would start a revolution

Arn't there 4 fronts? Hhhmmmmm maybe I'm wrong though...

 

[The Monkey]

The US could crush Russia in an instant, if I weren't for the nukes, of course, but let's count those away. The US could destroy every country if it fought a lone, but if the whole world united against the US, then they wouldn't have a chance in the world.

 

[Datrix]

I still think that the US could take on the world and win. Look at how close Germany came, and the US is more powerful than Germany was.

 

[Maxi]

The us would lose in a heartbeat. They can't sustain themselfs on the oil that they produce alone, they import something like 2/3 of their oil supply, the world would just blockade all oil coming in to the US and they would slowly be out of oil, then the world would invade.

 

[Solaris]

No, look at my post, if america took on the world, the world would end.

 

[The Monkey]

I still think that the US could take on the world and win. Look at how close Germany came, and the US is more powerful than Germany was.

Germany was never close. They could never have defeated the US and Soviet. If Germany hadn't invaded Soviet, and if they hadn't declared war on the US, and concentrated all their forces on UK, they would have won the war, but they did what they did, and they were doomed to lose the war.

 

[bliink]

No, look at my post, if america took on the world, the world would end.

America would end. (if WMD's stayed out of the equation)

 

[Datrix]

The us would lose in a heartbeat. They can't sustain themselfs on the oil that they produce alone, they import something like 2/3 of their oil supply, the world would just blockade all oil coming in to the US and they would slowly be out of oil, then the world would invade.

Yeah, but the US wouldn't be stupid they would focus alot of their forces on securing oil supplies, and If they took over Canada that would add a small amount of oil to their supply.

 

[Jintor]

AUstralia would sit back, and watch every one else bomb each other to smitherines. Then eat kangaroos.

Australia is the weirdest country in the world.

 

[The Dark Elf]

AUstralia would sit back, and watch every one else bomb each other to smitherines. Then eat kangaroos.

Australia is the weirdest country in the world.

Australia has better things to do than get involved in petty arguments caused by the US, they have all those cool beaches to play on, more fun than sitting in stuffy buildings arguing over who's got what oil.. Same with Canada, they'd rather have snowball fights and build snowmen than be bored to tears by old people in suits who don't really know what they're talking about.

Shame the UK can't follow that example, but noooo we gotta get involved in everything cause we hate to miss out lol. And then when other countries pick on us we blame someone else and run off crying and picking on smaller people to make ourselves feel better.

 

[ríomhaire]

Arn't there 4 fronts? Hhhmmmmm maybe I'm wrong though...

Only if the escomoes attack from the north.

 

[Datrix]

Only if the escomoes attack from the north.

Never underestimte those Eskimos, they might lead to the downfall of the US in WWIII

 

[ray_MAN]

If it was us against the world, we would pretty much unleash everything we have. I mean we have stuff that's so top secret the president probably doesn't know about it. The world doesn't stand a chance. What we are using today in our current wars are horse play. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

EDIT: I think this is going to spark a huge civil war in these forums. Britain against America against Australia against Canada etc. Good goin', Datrix.

 

[Datrix]

If it was us against the world, we would pretty much unleash everything we have. I mean we have stuff that's so top secret the president probably doesn't know about it. The world doesn't stand a chance.

Thats what I keep sayin' :cheers:

Edit: clear sailing in this thread so far, no harm done. :E

 

[The Dark Elf]

If it was us against the world, we would pretty much unleash everything we have. I mean we have stuff that's so top secret the president probably doesn't know about it. The world doesn't stand a chance. What we are using today in our current wars are horse play. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

EDIT: I think this is going to spark a huge civil war in these forums. Britain against America against Australia against Canada etc. Good goin', Datrix.

Yeah with that whole "we're better than you" attitude, you American's really know how to make friends

Hope your oil don't run out...

 

[ray_MAN]

It's just patriotic support. Like I am really going to say, "America will get demolished and then run over by a tractor." But, it's true, we really haven't seen anything. Learn from the past. Japan was all coochie-coo with their little war in the Pacific, then BAM! Nuclear bomb in two cities. They were all "omgwtfbbq?!" I'm sure you Brits or Aussies or whatever have some super top secret stuff, but I think we stand a better chance.

 

[Gray Fox]

it's more likely that china will do this, remember how ww2 started and then think about taiwan, what if the world gives in to that, and china has allready taken tibet, and remember china is like germany before ww2, a newly strong economy that surpases the old giants like the US.

 

[jondy]

Japan was all coochie-coo with their little war in the Pacific, then BAM! Nuclear bomb in two cities. They were all "omgwtfbbq?!"

Heh, that was a proper laugh-out-loud moment, in a good way

 

[dart321]

Learn from the past. Japan was all coochie-coo with their little war in the Pacific, then BAM! Nuclear bomb in two cities. They were all "omgwtfbbq?!"

Thousands of people died because of those two bombs, many more were killed by the radiation .... and I still laughed my ass off when you said that. I must be evil.

 

[bliink]

AUstralia would sit back, and watch every one else bomb each other to smitherines. Then eat kangaroos.

Australia is the weirdest country in the world.

We should change our flag to a white background with the text: "WTF Mate? ^^"

 

[sabre0001]

Well the US wouldnt be able to start a World War - they're usually late but have tried to start wars early (none ended up as World Wars so dont count)

 

[Dan]

Germany really was never close to taking the whole world at all. They took most of Europe and and some bits of North Africa and that was it. Go get an atlast and take a look at how big Europe is. You can fit it all into most Canadian provinces. You could probably fit it 10x over into Russia. And Germany didn't even have to conquer all of that. With Austria, Hungary, and Italy, they already controlled a good chunk of Europe to begin with.

Now USA could maybe hold off an invasion of North America for a while. Although Northern Canada is pretty damn big and cold and Russians could probably easily come through there in the summertime. But attacking the rest of the world is simply a matter of logistics.

Transporting a modern army accross an ocean is a huge undertaking that would bankrupt most nations. It took Britain and the USA 2 years just to organize an attack across the little English Channel. To take over a country the size of Russia or China, you would have to first control the sea and air around where you want to land, then you would have to land an amphibious assault at a port, possibly supported with airborne. Then you would have to establish supply lines to the shore, and keep those supply lines open probably for years to come as you slowly march your way across a country larger than the United States, fighting a billion angry Chinese people the whole way. Meanwhile you are paying through the nose to equip fuel and feed your army. You would also have to protect every other front you have. Once you control all of one country, you need troops garrisoned their to keep down uprisings while you continue on to do it over and over. Even if the US drafted every eligible soldier, they would still be stretched very thin.

 

[Datrix]

Germany really was never close to taking the whole world at all. They took most of Europe and and some bits of North Africa and that was it. Go get an atlast and take a look at how big Europe is. You can fit it all into most Canadian provinces. You could probably fit it 10x over into Russia. And Germany didn't even have to conquer all of that. With Austria, Hungary, and Italy, they already controlled a good chunk of Europe to begin with.

Now USA could maybe hold off an invasion of North America for a while. Although Northern Canada is pretty damn big and cold and Russians could probably easily come through there in the summertime. But attacking the rest of the world is simply a matter of logistics.

Transporting a modern army accross an ocean is a huge undertaking that would bankrupt most nations. It took Britain and the USA 2 years just to organize an attack across the little English Channel. To take over a country the size of Russia or China, you would have to first control the sea and air around where you want to land, then you would have to land an amphibious assault at a port, possibly supported with airborne. Then you would have to establish supply lines to the shore, and keep those supply lines open probably for years to come as you slowly march your way across a country larger than the United States, fighting a billion angry Chinese people the whole way. Meanwhile you are paying through the nose to equip fuel and feed your army. You would also have to protect every other front you have. Once you control all of one country, you need troops garrisoned their to keep down uprisings while you continue on to do it over and over. Even if the US drafted every eligible soldier, they would still be stretched very thin.

You have a very good point, but I still think that even If the US is outnumbered, they are still not outgunned. Think about how modern the US' equipment is compared to the rest of the worlds decaying armies.

 

[AzzMan]

This thread is gheyer than a pair of leather pants with the ass cut out. No country on Earth could stand up to the rest of the world, with nukes out of the equation.

 

[Datrix]

Me says:

BTW I know this is really stupid, its just today I have nothing better to do, and maybe we can get a good discussion going.

You don't have to restate the obvious, now you've gone and hurt my feelings.

 

[spookymooky]

You forget: under the circumstances given, the other countries would have to invade us. With the US simply defending itself (barring a nuke attack), I doubt any coalition of countries could invade/hold us. Even if they managed to take out the army somehow, I imagine that there would be guerrilla fighting on a massive scale, what with rednecks and all. I think the US is safe anywhere in North America.