What Does 2,000 Look Like?

[Kmack]

such a sad, sad waste of life. how can you send 2000 (and counting) boys to their death based on lies? i wonder, will all the money GW and Cheney have made ever buy back their souls?

why would someone want the war in Iraq to keep going? there are no WMDs, we're gonna be there for (at least) 5 more years, death count will hit (at least) 5000, civilian death count is already absurd, its caused a TRIPLING in global terrorist attacks, and we havent even caught Osama Bin Laden (who this whole war on terror started out to get), its costing billions of dollars we dont have, its increasing oil prices to absurd levels nailing the economy down, its killed 2000 american boys (wounded thousands more), its based on lies (cant reiterate that enough), its extremely unpopular with the american public, chances are Iraq will just get taken over again the moment we leave (if we ever leave), and most importantly, it is setting the stage for an islamic terrorist attack that will make 9-11 look like christmas in santas village. all this is speculation, but they are just a handful of reasons i think we are foolish to be in Iraq .

 

[short recoil]

It would have been so much more effective if they didn't repeat the same images several time to make up the 2000......
I know it would have been impossible to get all 2000 images of dead soldiers but they way they did it just looks silly.

 

[CptStern]

...why would someone want the war in Iraq to keep going? there are no WMDs, we're gonna be there for (at least) 5 more years, ....

the US recently said they'd be in iraq indefinately

 

[The Monkey]

duh sure all americans supported it :angel:

Why do people always think I'm talking about them personallt when saying "you"? By "you", I meant the US, hence the US government.

 

[Razor]

The problem is, some of those 2000people and their families might have a huge problem with their pictures being shown. Some of them might of been very happy to have given their lives for something they truely believed in, yet their image is now being portrayed in away that would go against what they believe in.

 

[gh0st]

just had to chime in with my full support of sterns "facts". his source? the world socialist website. hahahhahahahahahhahaha what a delusional turd. but seriously, this flash really hit it home for me. i NEVER could have imagined what TWO THOUSAND looked like. man, that is a huge number. i cant even begin to comprehend its grand scale.

 

[dream431ca]

just had to chime in with my full support of sterns "facts". his source? the world socialist website. hahahhahahahahahhahaha what a delusional turd. but seriously, this flash really hit it home for me. i NEVER could have imagined what TWO THOUSAND looked like. man, that is a huge number. i cant even begin to comprehend its grand scale.

Too Bad it won't stay at 2000.

 

[gh0st]

Too Bad it won't stay at 2000.

yeah. "too bad". i bet sterns just waiting for that latest casualty report. he might as well be over there shooting rpg's at americans and civilians.

 

[brink's]

What song was playing in that vid? Sounded like something from Pink Floyd.

 

[KagePrototype]

gh0st, stop stirring shit up.

 

[Kmack]

gh0st, stop stirring shit up.

i've heard that....oooo lets say..... 2000 times

 

[Bob_Marley]

The reason we dont see pictures of US military coffins is that there are too many links with Veitnam. One of the enduring images of that confilct is that of coffins draped in American flags. And we cant have Iraq being linked to Veitnam. That would be bad for public morale and support for the war.

I'm still holding out for a US door gunner to say "any one who runs is an insergent. Anyone who stays still is a well diciplined insergent." Then we'll know, as I said since before the invasion, that this turly has become another Veitnam.

 

[Kmack]

The reason we dont see pictures of US military coffins is that there are too many links with Veitnam. One of the enduring images of that confilct is that of coffins draped in American flags. And we cant have Iraq being linked to Veitnam. That would be bad for public morale and support for the war.

I'm still holding out for a US door gunner to say "any one who runs is an insergent. Anyone who stays still is a well diciplined insergent." Then we'll know, as I said since before the invasion, that this turly has become another Veitnam.

it'll (sadly) take about twenty years for that realization to hit :|

 

[Dalamari]

This war is like Vietnam without the kickass drugs and music

 

[CptStern]

just had to chime in with my full support of sterns "facts". his source? the world socialist website. hahahhahahahahahhahaha what a delusional turd.

you probably should have looked it up before running at the mouth, it could have prevented you from looking like a fool:


"Since 1991, the media have been banned from covering the arrival of remains at Dover. The air base houses the military's largest mortuary, where bodies are prepared for burial before they are sent to the families' hometowns.

"In March, before the Iraq war began, the Pentagon clamped down on similar coverage from military installations around the world, such as Ramstein Air Base in Germany or in Afghanistan. "The prohibition includes ... the movement of remains at any point," the Pentagon guidelines say."

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"The Pentagon's ban on photographing soldiers' coffins at US military bases dates to the first Gulf War in 1991. The US government, concerned that the ban was often ignored, re-issued it shortly before the start of the war in Iraq, and it is now strictly enforced."

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"Pentagon rules dating back to 1991 ban the media from covering the return of the remains of soldiers killed abroad. "

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"In March 2003, on the eve of war in Iraq, the Pentagon ordered an end to all media coverage of ceremonies for the returning remains of soldiers killed overseas. Although Dover already had such a policy, the Pentagon action enforced a military-wide ban on images of flag-draped caskets that dated to late 2000 but had not been followed."

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"In March, on the eve of the Iraq war, a directive arrived from the Pentagon at U.S. military bases. "There will be no arrival ceremonies for, or media coverage of, deceased military personnel returning to or departing from Ramstein [Germany] airbase or Dover [Del.] base, to include interim stops," the Defense Department said, referring to the major ports for the returning remains."

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[CptStern]

What song was playing in that vid? Sounded like something from Pink Floyd.

yup from the Meddle album: One of these days

good ear :thumbs:

 

[TheSomeone]

to further my point i have recently enlisted in the marine corps, and if i die, i dont want to have you loooking at my coffin, so you can fuel your rediculous left wing jihad against america.

LOL okay, that's enough for me.

* walks away laughing *

 

[Tr0n]

2,000 looks like...well...2,000.

 

[thorvale the red]

No, I never did wonder what 2,00 looks like! Ever! No comical relief to it. A waste of good bandwith for me. But then again, I'm one of the few that doesn't care about poloitics so I won't cry about "liberalist views" or how to "to fight the power", too many flames come out of that. Which is pretty funny, because these debates are over the internet, or according to Bush, the internets.

 

[brink's]

yup from the Meddle album: One of these days

good ear :thumbs:

lol I own that album, time to pop it in and have an ole listen.

 

[Adabiviak]

It gives credit to Pink Floyd at the end of the animation. Did we ever hear why they banned the photos of the deceased? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lesson seriously learned in the Vietnam war was that photo journalism of a war going sour is bad for you. Vietnam was the first war that was heavily covered by the media. Sure, there are pictures and some video from WWII, but Vietnam had color video from the front lines, bodies, carnage, the whole nine yards. The civillian populace didn't like this (in addition to the way the war was going), and a huge backlash against the war was begun. Keeping photos and videos of the horrors of war away from the public makes it more tolerable, and a government may avoid such a difficult situation.

Might we assume they knew what they were getting into by starting this "no media" campaign? It sure sounded like a walk in the park when they first sold it to us, but maybe they were just covering their butt in case (when) things got nasty over there.

 

[CptStern]

It gives credit to Pink Floyd at the end of the animation. Did we ever hear why they banned the photos of the deceased? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lesson seriously learned in the Vietnam war was that photo journalism of a war going sour is bad for you. Vietnam was the first war that was heavily covered by the media. Sure, there are pictures and some video from WWII, but Vietnam had color video from the front lines, bodies, carnage, the whole nine yards. The civillian populace didn't like this (in addition to the way the war was going), and a huge backlash against the war was begun. Keeping photos and videos of the horrors of war away from the public makes it more tolerable, and a government may avoid such a difficult situation..

public reaction was one of the reasons the US pulled out of vietnam

 

[No Limit]

this flash really hit it home for me. i NEVER could have imagined what TWO THOUSAND looked like. man, that is a huge number. i cant even begin to comprehend its grand scale.

Dick. These are the assholes that "support our troops".

 

[Llama]

gh0st, please fight and die in Iraq, and bring your family to be raped, tortured and murdered while your at it. Then maybe, just maybe, you'll start to understand.

 

[No Limit]

gh0st, please fight and die in Iraq, and bring your family to be raped, tortured and murdered while your at it. Then maybe, just maybe, you'll start to understand.

He's too chickenshit to do that. He will blindly be a cheerleader for the war but he is too scared to actually go over there. We call them chickenhawks in the liberal circles.

 

[Ikerous]

How is it that videos like the ones made by Jib Jab get tons of media coverage, but serious - possibley life saving - videos like this, don't even stand a chance of ever seeing air time?
I'd email the link to the same commentators, but it'd likely be in vain :/

 

[Lemonking]

He's too chickenshit to do that. He will blindly be a cheerleader for the war but he is too scared to actually go over there. We call them chickenhawks in the liberal circles.

incase you havent noticed so are you,we all are chicken cuz we hang out on a GAMING FORUM and talk about this issue:upstare:

 

[No Limit]

incase you havent noticed so are you,we all are chicken cuz we hang out on a GAMING FORUM and talk about this issue:upstare:

I'm not the one cheerleading for this war. People like ghost have no problem with the war as long as other people die for it.

 

[gh0st]

actually i hope i end up in iraq so i can commit some war atrocities. im willing to bet both my testicles that i'm the only person in this thread who is going to join the military. so no, i'm not the chickenshit. the military will be my career, so rest assured my balls are where your - i mean my - mouth is. im aware how large the number 2000 is, i dont need to be condescended to by a bunch of liberal goons.

 

[Lemonking]

Im thinking about siging up as soon as I loose weight >.<

 

[No Limit]

actually i hope i end up in iraq so i can commit some war atrocities. im willing to bet both my testicles that i'm the only person in this thread who is going to join the military. so no, i'm not the chickenshit. the military will be my career, so rest assured my balls are where your - i mean my - mouth is. im aware how large the number 2000 is, i dont need to be condescended to by a bunch of liberal goons.

You have been saying this for months, I think you are full of shit. How about you put your money where your mouth is:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Let me know when you have dropped off that form at your local army recruiting station. Then, once you are in the military (should only take a couple weeks) we can easily verify over the internet that you actually did sign up.

Im thinking about siging up as soon as I loose weight >.<

The Army is the perfect place to lose weight, you are free to fill out the form above and drop it off at your local army recruiting station. For more information you can visit their propgen...I mean site:

http://www.goarmy.com

 

[Shakermaker]

I agree with No Limit, Gh0st. Put your money where your mouth is. Enlist now. Do it.

At least we'll have some peace and quiet on this forum again when u do .....

 

[sadman]

you guys are so against the war and the death yet your trying to push someone into it and on top of that you say you want him to die?

 

[diluted]

nevermind :|

 

[Lemonking]

you guys are a bunch of dumb haters

 

[Kebean PFC]

"Chickenshits" NoLimit & Shakermaker. Did it ever occur to you that some of us are not 18 yet? Obviously not.

You are a bunch of hypocritical jackasses. You argue endlessly about "needless death" yet you push a forum member to enlist with the intention that he dies. That is about as low as you could go in my book. Man i wish i was a mod so i could ban you...

 

[No Limit]

"Chickenshits" NoLimit & Shakermaker. Did it ever occur to you that some of us are not 18 yet? Obviously not.

He is over 18.

You are a bunch of hypocritical jackasses. You argue endlessly about "needless death" yet you push a forum member to enlist with the intention that he dies. That is about as low as you could go in my book. Man i wish i was a mod so i could ban you...

But him cheerleading for the death of american troops is okay?

I know he won't enlist, he is too chickenshit too do it or he would have done it a long time ago. If you actually believe in something as deep as he seems to you need to go out and fight for it. Unless of course you believe that those troops are dying in an unjust war based on lies.

 

[Pesmerga]

What does 50 million look like, No Limit? Oh, Europe during WW2!

You must hate any President during any war in American history. And don't give me this "Oh, we didn't HAVE to invade Germany" shit, you know as well as anybody that's a completely useless argument.

 

[diluted]

What does 50 million look like, No Limit? Oh, Europe during WW2!

You must hate any President during any war in American history. And don't give me this "Oh, we didn't HAVE to invade Germany" shit, you know as well as anybody that's a completely useless argument.

You're comparing stomping out Nazism to securing America's energy needs.

 

[Pesmerga]

You're comparing stomping out Nazism to securing America's energy needs.

I'm comparing death tolls.

And are you so ready to bet all your chips that Bush's intentions weren't good? Let's see, 7 billion people live on this planet, and a handful are assigned with the duty to investigate what's really going on.

Fine, if you want to believe that he was wrong, go ahead, I might even agree with you. You can't blame someone who tries to do the right thing, though, and until proven otherwise, I believe he did.