Which compiler and IDE to use for HL2 coding?
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I don't understand why they don't change to for example Visual C++ .net 2003.Chrysalid said:I'm pretty sure that HL2 source code will be optimized for Microsft Visual C++ 6, so I think we must use that as for the HL1 SDK. But it ain't free
There's nothing however, that we could change the situation with.
But with the HL1 SDL you could also code with MinGW32, couldn't you? But I think it wasn't as easy and comfortable as with Visual C++ 6 ...
But how can I get Visual C++ 6 now? If I buy it at eBay it will probably cost very much, I'd prefer to buy a new academic version.
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I've heard VS 2003 compiles the HL 1 SDK fine apart from a couple of easy to sort out errors, the HL 2 SDK should be the same.
So get VS 2003 (or even VS 2005 if you can wait for it to come out) it's a far better IDE than VS 6 anyways.
So get VS 2003 (or even VS 2005 if you can wait for it to come out) it's a far better IDE than VS 6 anyways.
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VS 2003 has compatibility with most VS6 code with some settings... It seems to be a little easier to use (what little I have), and has somewhat better standards compliance..
for those who can't afford, I think their is a command line version of (at least) the VS6 compiler engine... downloadable free from msdn. i don't know much about it tho
for those who can't afford, I think their is a command line version of (at least) the VS6 compiler engine... downloadable free from msdn. i don't know much about it tho
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VALVe stated they were sticking with VC++6 because it was cheaper, meaning more people could buy it... (Its a pain to edit files in notepad and compile with a command line complier then it is with a IDE) and also becuase VC6 wouldn't be compatible with .Net 2003 projects.. But who knows they might include 2 projects, one for VC 6 and one for .Net...
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That would be really great, perhaps one more for the Dec C++ IDE.Limb said:
BTW: Do you think it would be legal for a company like Valve to code with the free working model of Visual C++ 6.0 and compile with only one version they bought? I think it would be much cheaper to buy only one licence. *g*
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Uhh, could you explain that more? I Don't quite understand what your trying to say.
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You know the working model of Visual C++ 6.0? It's a kind of trial version.Limb said:
So I meant if it would be legal, if Valve would only use many copies of this for all programmiers and only one copy of the full version to build the final game.
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i'm pretty sure that isn't using the trial as intended, and M$ would probably say something about a company that sells millions of games copies a year only owning one license...
they meant cheaper for YOU, not them, vs.net 2k3 ent arch is running around $2300 now, im sure valve could afford that easily, where as you can pick up VS6 enterprise for about $200 at your local computer store, or just get VC++ for $50.
they meant cheaper for YOU, not them, vs.net 2k3 ent arch is running around $2300 now, im sure valve could afford that easily, where as you can pick up VS6 enterprise for about $200 at your local computer store, or just get VC++ for $50.
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I use VS.NET and HL SDK compiles fine with the older version of .NET and the newer 2003 version.
Problem solved:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/
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2005 Express works fine - i tried it myself. You have a modify a few enum references, but that's it. The betas are well worth downloading - you'll be amazed at some of the stuff in there. I haven't had a problem, though I haven't really done much coding with them.
edit: license, it's valid forever really - the express version is designed to be free for personal use.
edit: license, it's valid forever really - the express version is designed to be free for personal use.
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Actually the beta has no licence, it's illegal to actually distribute stuff you make with it. Plus it'll stop working March 2005.
When VS 2005 does actually come out I'm pretty sure the express editions are gonna cost money (not that much though). If you're a student and want to buy VS it's worth checking the academic boxed copy. With this you get a full boxed copy of VS Pro with the VS Pro licence (meaning you can distribute/sell stuff you make with it) and it's far cheaper than the normal version of pro.
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I wouldn't really worry about project files, it's not particularly hard to setup new ones. I believe they're releasing project files for VS.Net because they use aspects of C++ that just don't work with VS 6.0 meaning if you did want to use VS 6.0 you'd may have a hell of a job just trying to get the thing to compile (but then again it may just require fidling around with a few files).
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You'll have to install the Platform SDK (it's free) to get the header files...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...tform_software_development_kit_start_page.asp
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...tform_software_development_kit_start_page.asp
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Monder said:
Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that it was not legal to sell/distribute stuff produced with the Academic version. Unfortunately, I never found hard info on Microsoft's site one way or the other, so I'm curious as to whether or not this is true. It would save me an amazing amount of money.
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/
Convert the VS.NET 2003/2002 project into the Sharp Dev combine and work on it.
I work with VS.NET 2003 at Uni and #Dev at home.
I just convert my project from/to the appropriate format. The end result however is the same no matter what IDE you use.
So if you are going to compile HL2 DLLs then you'd only need to convert the SDK from VS.NET to #Dev and then make the DLL and it will work.
Languages:
C++ managed/unmanaged.
C#.
VB.NET.
Convert the VS.NET 2003/2002 project into the Sharp Dev combine and work on it.
I work with VS.NET 2003 at Uni and #Dev at home.
I just convert my project from/to the appropriate format. The end result however is the same no matter what IDE you use.
So if you are going to compile HL2 DLLs then you'd only need to convert the SDK from VS.NET to #Dev and then make the DLL and it will work.
Languages:
C++ managed/unmanaged.
C#.
VB.NET.
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i used ms vs .net 03 and to compile the old hl sdk all u have to do is fix a sqrt problem and bool hasweapon problem ... .net is nice <3
of course all those looking for a free compilier could google "Eclipse" which is a idm freeware project that has a c++ compiler plugin and is compadible with linux and windows
of course all those looking for a free compilier could google "Eclipse" which is a idm freeware project that has a c++ compiler plugin and is compadible with linux and windows
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so they're sticking pretty much to the HL1 c++ system for mods?
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K.I.L.E.R said:
It doesn't say on the website that it supports C++ Syntax, nor does it say whether or not it comes with a C++ compiler.
Could you elaborate on how you got it to work with the HL2 SDK and how you are compileing the DLL's?
Just as a note, has anyone with gotten the how to example to compile? (anywhere at all, or particularly vs.net 2003). I'd really like to know, I'm having problems: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58204
