Who are they to think...

PETA sponsers the Earth Liberation Front which has been known for acts terror and destruction against biotech firms, fast food chains and ordinary people. Demonstrations by PETA have been known to turn violent and vandalizing restaurants or assaulting fur wearing and meat eating people is oridnary.

Here in San Francisco, you can of course see a lot of whackoes. I'm all for animal rights but when you start claiming eating a chicken's disposed period is harmful to her, shearing a lamb's heavy coat in summer time is cruel and that that owning pets are a crime I wouldn't be for you. They are aways in Powell street holding up disgusting signs for shock value and spreading their propaganda which consists mainly of lies and exaggerations. Everytime a celebrity dies or becomes ill (ie. Ronald Reagen) due to disease it is a common PeTA move to claim it was caused by eating meat even when there is no basis.

PETA=Terrorist Organization.
 
PETA = bad.

Simple? Or not?

Well. i guess the appropriate response is that extremists are bad.
 
Don't forget the fact that members have admitted that many of those acts of cruelty on their videos were actually done by PeTA's hands themselves! To make a point they stage inhumane acts on innocent creatures. But these videos make them go nowhere. Add the fact that in their headquarters they have put down an estimated several thousand animals although they claim to be opposed to euthanasia.

Damn hypocrites.
 
DoctorWeeTodd said:
Don't forget the fact that members have admitted that many of those acts of cruelty on their videos were actually done by PeTA's hands themselves! To make a point they stage inhumane acts on innocent creatures. But these videos make them go nowhere. Add the fact that in their headquarters they have put down an estimated several thousand animals although they claim to be opposed to euthanasia.

Damn hypocrites.
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provide sources, please. I want hard evidence ...and no pro-gun websites please, I want cross referenced documentation ...put your money where your mouth is
 
Hehe strange, I was doing a websearch for peta the other day, but I was looking for petaseconds.

PETA is not against beastiality.
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Oh, and beasiality isn't abusing animals? Forgive me if I point out the hypocracy in that.
 
Feath said:
Oh, it's not violent. As long as it's not violent it's okay.
If a group said that all Black People are lazy and it's a crime against White people to give them a job, would you say that wasn't extreme?

I'm sorry, "Feeding your child meat is child abuse" is really over the line, I have no problem with people being vegatarian, or general "animal rights". But to suggest that millions of parents are abusing their children is just absurd.

In fact, just a day or so ago, you were quite shocked to find out a US Senator said "Games are not art or media". Wasn't that a shock statement to get people's attention?
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I'm with Feath and Razor here.
 
Those Milk cartoon things are terrible. ****ing assholes who made that are unhamane assholes. PETA is a terrible organization. Stern the only connection I see between PETA and the war on terror is that PETA is the terrorist. Its terrible what they do, their scare tactics are mean, vile, disgusting, and outright scary. Stern I cannot see how you dont understand this...it makes no sense. Show me proof that they are good, and what the means they accomplished something good, were also good. Im sure you wont. If you do, great cause we have 30 more bad things to put that 1 good thing they did to rest.
 
I kinda feel like going out and killing me a deer now...and then fixing me some deer jerkey. :D
 
ummmm did anyone read the milk ad? why are they saying it's abuse?

could it be:


"Cow’s milk is the number one source of allergies in children, and research links consumption of dairy products, including cow’s milk, to colic (stomach cramps), autism, chronic ear infections, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (type 1 or "juvenile-onset" diabetes), acne, obesity, flatulence, constipation, mucus, and a variety of other ailments.

In his world-famous book Baby and Child Care, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote, "I no longer recommend dairy products. … The essential fats that are needed for brain development are found in vegetable oils. Milk is very low in these essential fats and high in the saturated fats that encourage artery blockage and weight problems as children grow."
 
CptStern said:
ummmm did anyone read the milk ad? why are they saying it's abuse?

could it be:


"Cow’s milk is the number one source of allergies in children, and research links consumption of dairy products, including cow’s milk, to colic (stomach cramps), autism, chronic ear infections, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (type 1 or "juvenile-onset" diabetes), acne, obesity, flatulence, constipation, mucus, and a variety of other ailments.

In his world-famous book Baby and Child Care, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote, "I no longer recommend dairy products. … The essential fats that are needed for brain development are found in vegetable oils. Milk is very low in these essential fats and high in the saturated fats that encourage artery blockage and weight problems as children grow."
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Its milk, there are many other things you could be drinking that are worse. What about beer? Why doesn't PETA protest that? Think of all the bacteria that dies!
 
Milk is unhealthy, that is why i don't drink very much at all.
But tbh there are many things people eat today which seriously **** them up.
CpStern, if you don't eat perfectly then don't go on about milk.
 
short recoil said:
Milk is unhealthy, that is why i don't drink very much at all.
But tbh there are many things people eat today which seriously **** them up.
CpStern, if you don't eat perfectly then don't go on about milk.
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But most people try to not feed that unhealthy stuff to their children...
Most parents try and make sure their kids are nice and healthy
And one way they do that is by feeding them milk (Not knowing its potentially harmful)
PETA is simply trying to educate people that milk is actually bad for kids

And people kept saying that PETA was lying and using needless care tactics
stern simpley pointed out their arguement was farily valid :/
 
Ikerous said:
But most people try to not feed that unhealthy stuff to their children...
Most parents try and make sure their kids are nice and healthy
And one way they do that is by feeding them milk (Not knowing its potentially harmful)

PETA is simply trying to educate people that milk is actually bad for kids
And people kept saying that PETA was lying and using needless care tactics
stern simpley pointed out their arguement was farily valid :/
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Somewhat valid, they don't need to be complete assholes about it though.
 
CptStern said:
"Cow’s milk is the number one source of allergies in children, and research links consumption of dairy products, including cow’s milk, to colic (stomach cramps), autism, chronic ear infections, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (type 1 or "juvenile-onset" diabetes), acne, obesity, flatulence, constipation, mucus, and a variety of other ailments.

In his world-famous book Baby and Child Care, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote, "I no longer recommend dairy products. … The essential fats that are needed for brain development are found in vegetable oils. Milk is very low in these essential fats and high in the saturated fats that encourage artery blockage and weight problems as children grow."
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We've been milking cows for millenia, Stern. If it's such a disgusting, horrible thing to drink (obviously worse for you than a pint of absinthe!) how come these side affects have never bothered humanity in the past, when even more milk was drunk by people? Oh, because it's blatant fear science, that's why.


Where else are they going to get the calcium, anyway? Chewing sea shells?
 
There is an unbelievable amount of "facts" around that are bent to give completely missleading representations, take microwaves for example:
"Tests show that after cooking food in a microwave, radioactive particles can be anywhere between 100-300 times higher percentage than before"

......makes you think you are eating chernobyl burgers, eh?

In reality this radiation comes from the cooking process, the forming of solid carbon and its isotopes.......which of course if you flame grill your food you get even more (microwave makes a lot less carbon)

But of course the anti microwave people bend this to make it look bad.
You have to be very careful about facts presented to you, i study things extremely carefully, gather as much information as possible before making a judgement.
 
I drink 2 pints of skimmed milk a day and it never did me any harm, their just a bunch of scaremongerers as far as i am concerned. I have drank milk all my life, as have my whole family, and not a single one of us has ever had a problem from it. Milk contains calcium, as well as other nutrients, that can be hard to find in other balanced diets, as well as tasting great.
 
CptStern said:
ummmm did anyone read the milk ad? why are they saying it's abuse?

could it be:

"Cow’s milk is the number one source of allergies in children, and research links consumption of dairy products, including cow’s milk, to colic (stomach cramps), autism, chronic ear infections, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (type 1 or "juvenile-onset" diabetes), acne, obesity, flatulence, constipation, mucus, and a variety of other ailments.

In his world-famous book Baby and Child Care, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote, "I no longer recommend dairy products. … The essential fats that are needed for brain development are found in vegetable oils. Milk is very low in these essential fats and high in the saturated fats that encourage artery blockage and weight problems as children grow."
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Well, the woman I was listening to on the radio t'other day basically told the guy from Milksucks.com that he shouldn't just cherry pick studies to further his agenda. (you can listen to the programme here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/fivelive/aod.shtml?fivelive/drive_fri . It's about 1 hour 38 minutes in).
 
I've been drinking milk for ages too. And if you're worried about getting fat, there's always skimmed milk.

I agree that the benefits from milk outweigh the risks.

I had a mate who hated milk and he was a really bad acne sufferer, and I drank milk, I didn't get very bad acne.

Who makes up all this stuff? I could just as well claim water from Derby induces schizophrenia.

Mr T is going to administer the smackdown to these folks soon, I feel.
 
Most organisations that are seriously against something, will just pull facts and figures out of their asses.

Its all just propaganda, be careful what you believe.

kirovman said:
Who makes up all this stuff? I could just as well claim water from Derby induces schizophrenia.
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I'm not schizophrenic.

Neither am I.
 
Critics of milk claim that it can have adverse health effects that outweigh any benefits. They point to scientific studies suggesting links between milk and some health problems:

* Two studies suggested that galactose, which is produced in the digestion of lactose in milk, can be a cause of ovarian cancer.[3] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&dopt=Citation&list_uids=2510499)[4] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Citation&list_uids=2567871) Other studies failed to show such a link, however.
* One study suggests an association between high calcium intake and prostate cancer.[5] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9458087) There is no evidence that any such problem is specific to milk.
* Some milk is rich in saturated fat, which studies have linked to increased risk of atherosclerosis and coronary heart disease. Low-fat and non-fat forms of milk may mitigate any such risk.
* As many as 70% of humans may suffer from some degree of lactose intolerance. For those individuals, milk may induce symptoms such as cramping, bloating, gas, and diarrhea.
* Critics question the claim that drinking large amounts of milk can reduce the risk of bone fractures, especially in the elderly. Some studies have failed to associate high calcium intakes with lower risk of hip and forearm fractures in men[6] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9278560) or women[7] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9224182).
* Recent studies show that milk may cause acne[8] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...e&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15692464).
* Some critics of milk claim that plant-based sources of calcium are preferable because, they claim, animal proteins in milk may "leach" calcium from bones.[9] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8198060) Such critics challenge the mainstream belief that milk lowers the risk of osteoporosis.

Milk supporters point out that studies show possible links between low-fat milk consumption and reduced risk of arterial hypertension, coronary heart disease, and obesity. Overweight individuals may benefit from decreased risk of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes.[10]
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Thank you Wikipedia.
 
kirovman said:
I've been drinking milk for ages too. And if you're worried about getting fat, there's always skimmed milk.

I agree that the benefits from milk outweigh the risks.

I had a mate who hated milk and he was a really bad acne sufferer, and I drank milk, I didn't get very bad acne.

Who makes up all this stuff? I could just as well claim water from Derby induces schizophrenia.
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OMG Really!?!
*creates a site called www.waterfromderbyinducesschizophrenia.com*
Haven't read through the whole thread, but PETA is NOT extremist, however I think they do have links with extremist groups like ALF.
 
SimonomiS said:
OMG Really!?!
*creates a site called www.waterfromderbyinducesschizophrenia.com*
Haven't read through the whole thread, but PETA is NOT extremist, however I think they do have links with extremist groups like ALF.
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Ahem: http://www.goveg.com/fp/childabusebig.jpg

EDIT: Can I just

When I say PETA is too extreme for me, I don't mean "OMG! TERRORIESTS!". I'm for some animal rights like cows/chickens being able to move around and stuff. But I'm not a vegetarian. And I'm against the mistreatment of pets.

It's like the difference between want the Lib Dems to win the next general election and wanting Charles Kennedy to be King. I can't support PETA because they go too far and I don't agree with their views.
 
Thats... just funny. But I would agree that "treating" them to a meal at somewhere like McDonalds, is no treat.
 
kirovman said:
Who makes up all this stuff? I could just as well claim water from Derby induces schizophrenia.
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Yeah, we'd certainly know, wouldn't we?

Yes.
 
Their scare tactics are bordering on religious... "Don't eat meat or god will smite thee!"

It's fine to be a vegetarian, but you don't have to be an arsehole about it.

I'm all for animals being treated humanely and fairly, but I do think eating meat is a necessity to most people's lives.

Scaring people into being vegans isn't the right way to approach things.


And you know...... not being against beastiality really speaks volumes about them. You'd think they'd attack the single most threatening issue to animal's rights first...

Farrowlesparrow said:
But I would agree that "treating" them to a meal at somewhere like McDonalds, is no treat.
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Absolutely right. But I wouldn't associate McDonald's with meat as much as I'd associate it with junk food. MD's is only the worst(cheapest) parts of the beef anyway.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
Thats... just funny. But I would agree that "treating" them to a meal at somewhere like McDonalds, is no treat.
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Obviously, eating too much meat means that you'll put weight on, but I completely disagree that it's child abuse to feed your children meat.

I actually know a girl who's a vegetarian and she's been putting weight on recently (But don't tell her I said that).
 
What very few people realise, because they are essentially stupid, is that scare tactics are short lived and will never convince someone fully. At best, it will just cow them into doing what you want for a while, in a half hearted fashion.
 
kirovman said:
And you know...... not being against beastiality really speaks volumes about them. You'd think they'd attack the single most threatening issue to animal's rights first...
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Wait.... What?! They're not against beastiality at all? Oh, this is just a saga now! I guess it must be hard to see loved ones get carted away in the back of a lorry.

/me tries to hide his laughter
 
lol anyone remember the South Park Episode with Peta??
hahaahahahahahaha
yes they do love Animals...^^
 
Kangy said:
Wait.... What?! They're not against beastiality at all? Oh, this is just a saga now! I guess it must be hard to see loved ones get carted away in the back of a lorry.

* Kangy tries to hide his laughter
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Hehe, you really live up to your avatar's reputation, don't you? ;)

Feath said:
Obviously, eating too much meat means that you'll put weight on, but I completely disagree that it's child abuse to feed your children meat.
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Not only do I disagree, I fail to comprehend how it could be considered child abuse. Obviously feeding a child meat excessively with any form of food is abuse, but one portion of meat per meal is going to do them more good than harm.

Lemonking said:
lol anyone remember the South Park Episode with Peta??
hahaahahahahahaha
yes they do love Animals...^^
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Heh. The bestial bit is starting to make sense...


Anyway the moral of the story is:
Animal rights are important, but PETA don't seem to have the credibility to be the representatives of animal rights.
 
I've just been over PETA and various other "animal rights" sites, it actually makes me feel physically ill that members of the same species as me can be so pathetic.

It is some of the most hypocritical, idiotic nonsense i have ever heard.
It always seems to be the same kind of people, the people that make my blood boil.

They are arguing against the very foundation of nature, they are morons.
They have become little brats punching and kicking in their womb of safety, everything they say is right, offended at anything, only accept what they like.

Man, soceity is going down the shitter.
 
short recoil said:
I've just been over PETA and various other "animal rights" sites, it actually makes me feel physically ill that members of the same species as me can be so pathetic.

It is some of the most hypocritical, idiotic nonsense i have ever heard.
It always seems to be the same kind of people, the people that make my blood boil.

They are arguing against the very foundation of nature, they are morons.
They have become little brats punching and kicking in their womb of safety, everything they say is right, offended at anything, only accept what they like.

Man, soceity is going down the shitter.
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arent you pro-gun? pro- hunting, pro-war? ...that pretty much invalidates your post, thankyouverymuch


so lets all lump in every single animal rights group and label them terrorists or extremists or wtf why not call them hippy tree-hugging radicals bent on world domination?

they've saved countless animals from cruel fates ...what have you done to contribute to society? when was the last time YOU lent your voice to defending something that is incapable of fighting on its own?


this group for instance has been fighting to introduce legislation that bans illegal bear organ harvesting that pretty much all levels of canadian government turn a blind eye to. but who freakin cares if hunters orphan cubs just so they can get top dollar for bear spleen in asian markets. WHo cares that hundreds of marine animals are dying every year because of deplorable conditions ..if they dont advocate for them who will? YOU? ...please dont waste my time
 
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