Who do you admire?

KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Quite the contrary, there is evidence of his exisitence; such as the spear he was stabed with stained with his blood (many rulers have stolen this over the ages including Hitler & it is said who ever controls with thing has divine power which is just tall tales)
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A myth, it doesn't exist.
, the nails he was nailed to the cross with, & the cross itself.
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A Myth.
There was even a special on the history channel (I 3> that channel) "In the footsteps of Jesus."
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Well that prooves it then.
Also that tree that where he prayed at just before his cature from the romans, & that tree is still standing even to this day. Thats a very old tree.
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An old tree still stands, so Jesus MUST exist.
 
Solaris said:
Andy Mcnab lol.

I read a book and watched the TV show 'the real bravo two zero'. Apperntly, the bit where he said he and his freinds took out 4 APC's of lik 12 men each, it was just an old man, with a 60year old rifle shooting it in the sky.

If you add up all the kills Mcnab claims to have made in the book, it comes to like 300. Shame he got captured, he could have won the war himself.
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Its not COMPLETELY true im sure, but hes been there atleast. I dunno, even if it ISNT true, its the only writer ive read that has made me just want to keep on reading. I find it like a drug sometimes.
 
KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Quite the contrary, there is evidence of his exisitence; such as the spear he was stabed with stained with his blood (many rulers have stolen this over the ages including Hitler & it is said who ever controls with thing has divine power which is just tall tales), the nails he was nailed to the cross with, & the cross itself. There was even a special on the history channel (I 3> that channel) "In the footsteps of Jesus."

Also that tree that where he prayed at just before his cature from the romans, & that tree is still standing even to this day. Thats a very old tree.
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See that tree there? Bigfoot used to urinate at the base of it 2000 years ago. This is conclusive proof that Bigfoot exists.
 
*sarcasm detector explodes as it gets pointed at Solaris*
 
KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Quite the contrary, there is evidence of his exisitence; such as the spear he was stabed with stained with his blood (many rulers have stolen this over the ages including Hitler & it is said who ever controls with thing has divine power which is just tall tales), the nails he was nailed to the cross with, & the cross itself. There was even a special on the history channel (I 3> that channel) "In the footsteps of Jesus."

Also that tree that where he prayed at just before his cature from the romans, & that tree is still standing even to this day. Thats a very old tree.
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You're ****ing crazy.
 
I admire.....uhh.... hmmm... my brother.

Oh he did exisit, according to the history books.
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Your right Jesus did exist. I'd know, I kicked his ass from time to time.
 
Yeah I heard the toothfairy exists because all my teeth fell out when I got hit by a bus.
 
I guess I'd have to say Richard James.

I don't really know many famous people, and of those I do I don't know much about them, and of those who I do I don't find anything admirable.
 
You guys can take even the SIMPLEST of topics and completely flip them around in a heartbeat.


How the f*ck do you guys go from "Who do you admire the most?" to "JESUS TOTALLY EXISTED DOOD ITS FUR REALZ"
 
tehsolace said:
You guys can take even the SIMPLEST of topics and completely flip them around in a heartbeat.


How the f*ck do you guys go from "Who do you admire the most?" to "JESUS TOTALLY EXISTED DOOD ITS FUR REALZ"
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That's the fabulousness of discussion.
 
Discussions on this board would be eye-****ingly boring if there weren't tangents.
 
I don't really admire anybody. There's really no piont for me to admire them , just make me jealous that they are better than me.

Meh, I'll admire myself then.
 
tehsolace said:
Its like having a discussion with someone with ADHD...
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YOU TAKE THAT BACK! I can have a completely normal conversa..........hey look a funny pop up.
Hehehehe
What were we talking about?
Oh yah, you're all Halo nubs, I'll pwn you all.
:|
 
i don't idealise anyone, and i think that in itself does say something about me. i'm not into hero worship, and i'm somewhat cynical, but not overly so, i like to think of it as down to earth.

i like the idea of being able to describe myself by telling you who I admire, but i don't idealise anyone in their entirity.
 
tehsolace said:
Its like having a discussion with someone with ADHD...
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Dont you mean ADD?

Besides, the Jesus convo is always best. Its fun. I mean, why people cant agree that the McMerc SLR has titanium valve springs is just soooo beyond me...

wooo a Fratellis poster!!! ZOMG!
 
ĐynastҰ said:
Dont you mean ADD?
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ADHD: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

Theres no such thing as ADD anymore... its ADHD now.


And I do admit, the religious debates do get pretty interesting every now and then :]
 
Caius Julius Caesar
Genghis Khan
Napoleon Bonaparte
Adolf Hitler

IMO the greatest leaders and conquerors in history, and I esteem them over anyone else. I'm enamored with these guys.
 
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong
Saddam Hussein
Pol Pot
Leopold II
 
Taxman said:
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong
Saddam Hussein
Pol Pot
Leopold II
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With a list like that what kind of person does it make you I wonder.

OK, back to the Jesus debate. I take back what I said earlier he did exist I know this for a fact because I was on his space ship just a few minutes ago.:eek:
 
Insano said:
And to all you nay-sayers on the existance of Jesus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus.
It clearly says that only a small minority believe that Jesus was a fictional figure.
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Since when was this a popularity contest? A lack of evidence for his existence is still a lack of evidence for his existence.

It shouldn't be surprising to anybody that, with Christianity so embedded into history, that many people accept him as a historical figure today. Your link doesn't confirm it. It just presents the debate.
 
Absinthe said:
Since when was this a popularity contest? A lack of evidence for his existence is still a lack of evidence for his existence.
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Yeah, I expected someone would bring up that arguement, so I edited that reply. What I meant was that only a minority believe that, given all the evidence, jesus doesn't exist. Just take a look at the evidence given in the article.
Darkside55 said:
Caius Julius Caesar
Genghis Khan
Napoleon Bonaparte
Adolf Hitler

IMO the greatest leaders and conquerors in history, and I esteem them over anyone else. I'm enamored with these guys.
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How can you forget Alexander? :O
 
Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein, KG, GCB, DSO, PC

Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

Colin Campbell Mitchell (AKA "Mad Mitch")

Thomas Michael Hoare (AKA "Mad Mike")
 
Solaris said:
The Unkown rebel.

I can't belive you admire Winston Churchil, the man was evil, I'd punch him in a secound. For example, what he said about gassing the Kurds in Iraq:
"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes,"

and:
"I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
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You are completely ignoring the context of the quote.

In the 1920s there was a general idea, which Britain shared, that the rules of war only applied to conflict "between civilized nations." It had earlier been stated clearly that "they do not apply in wars with uncivilized States and tribes" in the Manual of Military Law of 1914.[3]

A War Office minute of 12 May 1919 argued for the use of gas in certain situations in general terms: "I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected."

He's not being a Nazi or anything of the sort. What he is saying is no different to the modern equivalent of pointing out that the Geneva Convention does not apply to unlawful combatants.

The other quote you cited can be found only on loony fringe websites, and considering the enormous amount of quotes misattributed to Churchill, I wouldn't be surprised if he never said it at all.

rambler said:
i don't idealise anyone, and i think that in itself does say something about me. i'm not into hero worship, and i'm somewhat cynical, but not overly so, i like to think of it as down to earth.

i like the idea of being able to describe myself by telling you who I admire, but i don't idealise anyone in their entirity.
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I used to be the same. Then I figured having idols gives me more direction. If I adopt the attitudes and strategies of people as inspirational as Donald Trump and Richard Branson, then I'm more likely to end up being like them one day - something I hope to achieve.
 
Insano said:
Yeah, I expected someone would bring up that arguement, so I edited that reply. What I meant was that only a minority believe that, given all the evidence, jesus doesn't exist. Just take a look at the evidence given in the article.
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You seem to think I haven't read it. I have. Long before you posted it. And there's nothing in it that could be considered substantial. The most famous historian of that era, Josephus, makes little more than a passing reference to him, and even those claims have been subject to the edits of history.

Key quote from your link:
Questions relevant to the matter include: to what extent did the authors' motivations shape the texts, what sources were available to them, how soon after the events described did they write, and whether or not these factors lead to inaccuracies such as exaggerations or even inventions.
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You say "given all the evidence" as if there's mounds of it, but there's precious little. And evidence is not the same as proof.
 
In the end, it's all about your own interpretation of the documents.
 
David Belle, I admire his spirit and way of thinking, aswell as bringing Parkour to life.

Mr T. - It sounds dumb, but I saw a TV show not long ago called "Bring back the A-Team" that guy on channel 4 with the long hair and west country accent managed to meet Mr. T, the guy is a legend, he's full of energy and he's a nice guy, I just admire him alot.
 
Ennui said:
Einstein
The Founding Fathers (it's sad to see their ideology run so afoul, though)
I like some of them, but many of them I dislike.

Many of their core ideas, liberty, democracy and such were tainted by aristocracy. The constitution is written in such a way that only the wealthy white property owners get any say in the government, mostly because the founding fathers were wealthy white landowners. Some of them, like Alexander Hamilton had downright aristocratic views.

However, Benjamin Franklin I admire greatly, and I like about half of Thomas Jefferson's ideas (minus states rights and nullification)
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Also, I admire Ennui because he plays Company of Heroes with me. *hint hint*
 
Eric Arthur Blair (more commonly known as George Orwell) - For general all round awesomeness

Tiannanmen Square tank guy.

Tony Benn (not an endorsement of his politics, I just feel that hes the kind of politician thats severely lacking today, ie one with principles)

Aung San Suu Kyi
 
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