Why is america so thick-headed?

[operative x]

Seriously, somebody needs to walk into congress/senate/house of reps and just spray them with a Thompson. There’s waaaaayyyyyy too many rich-old(changed for you geogaddi)-corrupt politicians. I mean:

-Senate decides to not raise minimum wage? Those asshole can vote for a ****ing pay raise but not help the people who are getting shit on from big corporations?

-Allowing our world to be continually ****ed up with global warming and not do anything remotely serious to stop it. They do nothing knowing that once oil runs out the world’s economy is going to crash. I bet that alternative energy has already been created but those ****ing oil tycoons are paying some politicians/government/ or are in government and are keeping it suppressed.

-These ridiculous Video Game bans that are really the cause of a bunch of old people who are afraid of change and don't realize that nobody plays GTA4 so they can kill people. After about an hour into any game, all the "outer-wrappings" disappear and it becomes all about "how am I gunna get past this new obstacle" "should i sell this item? Maybe i should just save it." And don't get me started on how politicians are having a field day with some black guy ****ing his girlfriend in GTA while people are being IMPALED in prey or breaking peoples jaw with an axe in Condemned.

-How every news corp seems to think that Angelina’s new baby should get more coverage than our shitty-run-down-public schools. And not to mention that US schooling techniques are unbelievably flawed.

-Have a complete lack of any remotely worthy candidates to choose from for president.

-How we amazingly seem to never learn from our past mistakes. Arresting innocent Muslims living in the US after 911 (Japanese interment camps anyone?).

-How no action is being taken place to all of these corrupt politicians from the Bush Administration

 

[Geogaddi]

Agreed, but I don't think murdering them all would help improve our country much.

 

[operative x]

I agree actually. In reality, i'm just angry at how the U.S. is going down the shitty. I'm afraid that after you kill them more corrupt assholes will eventually make there way back in.

 

[DeusExMachina]

We're certainly in a lull. Hopefully, someone will come along and set everything straight. But, we can't just rely on one person. All of us have to do something about it. It's easy to blame one person. Its difficult to take responsibility.

 

[bliink]

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants

 

[CptStern]

not to be the devil's advocate but ... all the evidence that this war was a sham was there from the very beginning ...not for a second did I ever believe the war was justified ..all you had to do was read the abundant reports yet the US went to war with almost universal american support ...you didnt want to see the truth ..even now there's a certain percentage of americans who wont see the truth

I can almost guarantee this will come up again ..whether it be Iran, Syria, Sudan or whatever hapless victem the US sets their sights on, americans will be there to support the war ...just like they did in iraq, just as they're starting to with Iran

 

[Narcolepsy]

Senate decides to not raise minimum wage? Those asshole can vote for a ****ing pay raise but not help the people who are getting shit on from big corporations?

It's not that simple. A higher minimum wage leads to unemployment.

 

[Zeus]

Seriously, somebody needs to walk into congress/senate/house of reps and just spray them with a Thompson. There’s waaaaayyyyyy too many rich-white-corrupt politicians. I mean:

OK, I edited my original post, as I was going off before. I just want to say in this edited post that the anti-white posts (joking or not) need to cease. Personally I'm offended by posts like that, being white myself, and would rather not have to read them when skimming through a politics article. thank you

 

[Yuri]

Seriously, somebody needs to walk into congress/senate/house of reps and just spray them with a Thompson. There’s waaaaayyyyyy too many rich-white-corrupt politicians. I mean:

-Senate decides to not raise minimum wage? Those asshole can vote for a ****ing pay raise but not help the people who are getting shit on from big corporations?

You don't have any idea what you're talking about here... minimum wage was fine where it was. Raising it would cause massive inflation and lots of economic problems. We can't simply raise minimum wage to magically make poverty go away-- it doesn't work like that.

-Allowing our world to be continually ****ed up with global warming and not do anything remotely serious to stop it. They do nothing knowing that once oil runs out the world’s economy is going to crash. I bet that alternative energy has already been created but those ****ing oil tycoons are paying some politicians/government/ or are in government and are keeping it suppressed.

And this is America's fault... why? Don't you think this is a world fault? I don't see why the US should be singled out.

-These ridiculous Video Game bans that are really the cause of a bunch of old people who are afraid of change and don't realize that nobody plays GTA4 so they can kill people. After about an hour into any game, all the "outer-wrappings" disappear and it becomes all about "how am I gunna get past this new obstacle" "should i sell this item? Maybe i should just save it." And don't get me started on how politicians are having a field day with some black guy ****ing his girlfriend in GTA while people are being IMPALED in prey or breaking peoples jaw with an axe in Condemned.

No video game laws have passed yet, besides a few about sexually explicit content. The fact that they are being proposed and is troubling, but you know what else I find troubling? That country that had a political party who wanted to legalize pedophilia. I forgot what it is, bleh. Holland or something? I don't find whatever it is to be thickheaded because of it, just the people who are trying to pass those laws.

-How every news corp seems to think that Angelina’s new baby should get more coverage than our shitty-run-down-public schools. And not to mention that US schooling techniques are unbelievably flawed.

Flawed schooling techniques? They're not the best, but they are most certainly not the worst. Apparantly the early years of American education are one of the top-ranking education systems in the world, and as it gets into high school it becomes one of the worst. Where I grew up I think I learned a fair amount, but I know it is much worse elsewhere.

-Have a complete lack of any remotely worthy candidates to choose from for president.

That I can agree with... to an extent. Nader should win. A lot of people should win but they are dominated by the Republicans and Democrats. The two party system does not work, at all.

-How we amazingly seem to never learn from our past mistakes. Arresting innocent Muslims living in the US after 911 (Japanese interment camps anyone?).

The extent of the Japanese crap is definately not comparable to the extent of the Muslim crap. I'm not saying its any better, and its definately a good point.

-How no action is being taken place to all of these corrupt politicians from the Bush Administration

Yeah definately...



I just fail to see how America is so "thickheaded" when compared to any other country. I also fail to see the point of this thread, other than making a bunch of random angry points about how "America sux HELL YES!." You can do the same with any country.

 

[theotherguy]

It's not that simple. A higher minimum wage leads to unemployment.

how? Inflation has ensured that the minimum wage is outdated. Corporations make more money because money is devaluing constantly, a raise in minimum wage would only mean higher pay for more workers, and corporations being more willing to hire illegal ones.

 

[Yuri]

how? Inflation has ensured that the minimum wage is outdated. Corporations make more money because money is devaluing constantly, a raise in minimum wage would only mean higher pay for more workers, and corporations being more willing to hire illegal ones.

How? If places are unable to hire the same amount of people because they have to pay each of them more, they will hire less people and look for alternatives. Or if its cheaper to use a piece of machinery, they will do that. The immediate effect is a rise in unemployment, the long-term effect if inflation.

A raise in minimum wage is a quick fix for a bigger problem, and it doesn't work. What is it now, like $6 or something? The dollar is already a failing form of currency because the government keeps pumping more into circulation...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

-Allowing our world to be continually ****ed up with global warming and not do anything remotely serious to stop it.

How do you propose we take nature's reigns?

I wish people would stop bitching about global warming.

 

[Yuri]

How do you propose we take nature's reigns?

I wish people would stop bitching about global warming.

Alternate energy sources?

Global warming is a pretty gigantic problem.

There needs to be massive amounts of scientific research, backed by the governments of all the countries everywhere, that both research alternate fuel sources and any other way to prevent Global warming.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Alternate energy sources?

Global warming is a pretty gigantic problem.

There needs to be massive amounts of scientific research, backed by the governments of all the countries everywhere, that both research alternate fuel sources and any other way to prevent Global warming.

Alternative fuels are not going to prevent global warming.

 

[theotherguy]

The thing is, the corporations can afford to pay the higher fees, but the minimum-wage employees can't afford to remain on 5.15 an hour. 5.15 an hour today is appalingly low. What do you suggest they do instead? We just abandon the poor to go on welfare or suffer needlessley?

A rise in unemployment would probably be inevitable, but the fact of the matter is, they will not use machines or abandon the positions, they will hire illegal immigrants and outsource.

If a rise in minimum wage coupled with a tighter set of laws on illegal immigrants and outsourcing would dramitcally improve the lives of minimum wage employees.

The fact of the matter is, the majority of low-wage jobs need to be, and can afford to be much higher. The employers only take advantage of the low minimum wage to increase their profit margin, not neccissarly to make a profit. Those jobs wouldn't just dissapear, and employees would be able to travel freely across the entire job market and never have to go below the $7 limit.

 

[theotherguy]

Alternative fuels are not going to prevent global warming.

yeah, but burning more oil sure as hell isn't going to help it either.

 

[Yuri]

yeah, but burning more oil sure as hell isn't going to help it either.

...and that is how it will prevent, or rather slow down, global warming.

If we use things other than oil, the biggest problem, then global warming will be stopped.

I don't see how you can dispute that, Zee Rukken...

A rise in unemployment would probably be inevitable, but the fact of the matter is, they will not use machines or abandon the positions, they will hire illegal immigrants and outsource.

Argh, yeah, much better point. That's what I meant. :angel:


In a perfect world, of course raising minimum wage would be good for poverty and the standard of living. But that's not what I was disputing. Simply put, if you just raise the minimum wage, it will do more harm then good.

However, if you were to raise minimum wage after making much stricter laws concerning under-the-table payments, illegal immigration, and outsourcing, it would be great.

But that's not what we were trying to do. We were just trying to raise minimum wage. All I am saying is: Raising the minimum wage with the current laws will do more harm than good, we have to focus on other things first.

 

[theotherguy]

yes, but inevitably, the minimum wage must be raised to overcome inflation. It hasn't changed since the late ninties, and since then the value of the dollar jsut keeps falling. A person today actually makes $4.04 in 1996 dollars, the year the 5.15 limit was set. So in reality, we must inevitably raise minimum wage to keep up with inflation, or else the minimum wage will mean positively nothing.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

...and that is how it will prevent, or rather slow down, global warming.

If we use things other than oil, the biggest problem, then global warming will be stopped.

I don't see how you can dispute that, Zee Rukken...

You cannot "prevent" global warming.

The Earth has been getting warmer ever since the last major ice age. It's natural climate process.

Burning less fossil fuels is a great plan, but do not expect it to suddenly make temperatures drop even one degree.

 

[theotherguy]

You cannot "prevent" global warming.

The Earth has been getting warmer ever since the last major ice age. It's natural climate process.

Burning less fossil fuels is a great plan, but do not expect it to suddenly make temperatures drop even one degree.

true, temperatures will not drop until carbon is physically taken out of the air, a process which will take hundreds of years with plants. What we do need to do is stop burning fossil fuels and then use carbon scrubbers to clear the air. (and yes they do exist. A company is now manufacturing carbon scrubbers that can do the work of 10,000 trees)

The earth has been getting warmer since the last ice age, but that was over 5,000 years ago. We're seeing carbon levels and temperature both rising at amazing logarithmic rates in the last 100 years, a feat which can only be attributed to humans.

Here is a graph representing carbon levels over the past few thousand years:

 

[Yuri]

You cannot "prevent" global warming.

The Earth has been getting warmer ever since the last major ice age. It's natural climate process.

Burning less fossil fuels is a great plan, but do not expect it to suddenly make temperatures drop even one degree.

You can't prevent it but you can slow it down.

And I just said that.

And one way you can do it is to stop burning fossil fuels. And one way we can do that is by looking into alternate energy sources.

I never said it would make temperatures drop, did I?

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

true, temperatures will not drop until carbon is physically taken out of the air,... A company is now manufacturing carbon scrubbers that can do the work of 10,000 trees)

Carbon dioxide? Explain how carbon is the problem.
Show me one of these carbon scrubbers.

The earth has been getting warmer since the last ice age, but that was over 5,000 years ago. We're seeing carbon levels and temperature both rising at amazing logarithmic rates in the last 100 years, a feat which can only be attributed to humans.

The ice age ended roughly 10,000 years ago, but like I said, it's a cycle. Temperature will rise regardless.

Here is a graph representing carbon levels over the past few thousand years:

Your source's CO2 level is exaggerated.
Here is a better graph. Not exactly "logarithmic" rates of increase.

Notice temperature is still lower than past peaks.

I never said it would make temperatures drop, did I?

I never said you said they would.

 

[theotherguy]

Carbon dioxide? Explain how carbon is the problem.
Show me one of these carbon scrubbers.

Yes I meant co2
My source was discover magazine. Sadly I can't quite find the exact source. They said that the problem wasn't seperating the co2 from the air, it was storing it after it had been seperated. They said they planned on burying it underground so that it woudl seep out again at an acceptable level that would be coverable by trees.

A natural process does not account for the staggering 1 degree jump over the past 100 years. True temperatures vary in cycles, but they don't jump 1 degree in a century. Funny too, how this 1 degree jump is associated exactly with industrial carbon emmisions. I suppose that's just some big coincidence too, right?

take this graph for instance, if you take out the massive cycles that take thousands of years, and show only the past 1000 years, that 1 degree jump is pretty significant.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/warming/art/graph2.gif

 

[99.vikram]

And this is America's fault... why? Don't you think this is a world fault? I don't see why the US should be singled out.

America uses more oil than most of the third world put together.

No video game laws have passed yet, besides a few about sexually explicit content. The fact that they are being proposed and is troubling, but you know what else I find troubling? That country that had a political party who wanted to legalize pedophilia. I forgot what it is, bleh. Holland or something? I don't find whatever it is to be thickheaded because of it, just the people who are trying to pass those laws.

Idiots are there in every country. But in America they get popular support. Prime example - Bush.

I just fail to see how America is so "thickheaded" when compared to any other country. I also fail to see the point of this thread, other than making a bunch of random angry points about how "America sux HELL YES!." You can do the same with any country.

It takes me a few minutes to think up a strong argument against most countries, but with America it's spontaeneous.

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq...too many to name. And let's not forget Hiroshima. BTW, who set up the mujahideen into a position of power? Oh, that's right. America.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

I'll be frank. I do not trust your source.
Notice the graph I gave is the exact same plot, only direction (timeline) is reversed. I think your PBS graph was taken from whomever plotted the one I linked, and exaggerated to scare people.
Seems to be working.

lol @

The overwhelming majority of scientists agree: earth's temperature has risen during the past century.

Ask them to show you a 100 year graph from one of the other 4 peaks. I doubt it will be any different.

Here is something I recently concluded in my studies.

Roughly 1/5 of the worlds active volcanoes (maybe 58 total) vent as much CO2 as 1/3 of the worlds population.
This is not counting eruptions.

Think about it.

 

[Yuri]

America uses more oil than most of the third world put together.

Third world? Well... that makes sense, doesn't it?

America uses more oil than most other European countries because it has a much higher population, and a much, much, much larger landmass. Things are farther apart in America.

Why not single out America when it is the blame of anywhere that uses oil?
France, UK, Ireland, Germany, Sweden, Iraq, India, Japan, China all use oil. Why is it suddenly only the US's problem?

Oh, that's right. It isn't. Its a world problem and has no place in an "America is thickheaded" thread. :upstare:

Idiots are there in every country. But in America they get popular support. Prime example - Bush.

Bush supports video game laws? News to me.

Hey guys, I think Bush is also the devil and has sex with small children.

Just because the guy's a dick and he ran this country like shit doesn't mean you can blame everything on him.

In America, idiots don't get any more popular support than any other country. That example I quoted-- yeah, that had quite a bit of popular support. And why does Stern care so much about the video game laws in the US if he lives in Canada?

Oh, that's right, because Canada will probably follow suit. (Also because a lot of games are designed in the US, but still) Does this make Canada thickheaded because they may support people with stupid ideals?

No.

Frankly you're just blaming yet another thing on America that has no place.

America isn't stupid because of some stupid video game laws. The people who are proposing it are stupid (or greedy), and the people who are supporting it are either stupid or misinformed and ignorant.

How you can even say an entire country is "thickheaded" is beyond me. What are you referring to? The government, the people, what?

It takes me a few minutes to think up a strong argument against most countries, but with America it's spontaeneous.

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq...too many to name. And let's not forget Hiroshima. BTW, who set up the mujahideen into a position of power? Oh, that's right. America.

So you are admitting to hating on America because it is convienant for you? Did you ever stop to think that perhaps this is because of the prominent anti-American sentiment that seems to plague everwhere in the world? I also think its hilarious that you mentioned Iraq... are you ignoring the fact that British and Canadian forces are currently in Iraq as well? Are they thickheaded, or is this once again an American problem only? (Convienance, yay)

Every. Country. Does. Bad. Things.

Why is it America that seems to be the "shithole of the world." Why is it so easy for people to hate on America yet ignore other countries which are so much worse? Why is it okay to insult America when wherever you people are from has done things on par with these examples?

To put things into order, let's look at some other horrible countries we could perhaps hate on a bunch.

China censors its media to an extreme. Let me also add that China has a huge chunk of the world's population.

Most of Africa is run by evil tyrants and warlords. Several years ago, there was genocide there that rivalled the Holocaust in the amount of senseless violence and killing that occured there.

There are a bazillion evil, evil dictatorships that oppress their people and steal their money and shoot and torture everyone that opposes them.

Stop singling out America just because its fun. It is f*cking annoying. Don't jump on that "AMERICA SUX" bandwagon. Its just immature.

You can complain about shitty things America does, and damn, it does some realllll shitty things all the time. But you can't say its the worst, you can't say its ever so horrible, and you can't say its any more thickheaded than any other country.

You can complain about the video game laws, you can complain about the wars, you can complain about the way it is moving toward a two-class system, you can complain about the ignorant, swarmy people that are in power, but you can't say "America is thickheaded' cuz that doesn't mean anything.




Looking back, though, I guess I shouldn't compare it to any other countries because the threadstarter did not.

I guess I'm just saying America is no more thickheaded than any other country.

I look like a nationalistic bastard when I guess I was just reacting to the fact that I figured everybody was going to come in here and say "Wow, Americans are stupid bastards!" and "Yeah, America sucks and is the worst country ever!"

I'm sorry :/

It's late ;(

 

[operative x]

You don't have any idea what you're talking about here... minimum wage was fine where it was. Raising it would cause massive inflation and lots of economic problems. We can't simply raise minimum wage to magically make poverty go away-- it doesn't work like that.

Are you kidding me? Prices are already inflated because of these greedy corporate suits. Getting away with paying hard working people with peanuts is inexcusable.

And this is America's fault... why? Don't you think this is a world fault? I don't see why the US should be singled out.

Although it is my fault for not stating earlier, i was kinda speaking in general with all countries, my bad.

Flawed schooling techniques? They're not the best, but they are most certainly not the worst. Apparantly the early years of American education are one of the top-ranking education systems in the world, and as it gets into high school it becomes one of the worst. Where I grew up I think I learned a fair amount, but I know it is much worse elsewhere.

Regardless if it used to be worse or it's worse in other countries, the US could be doing SO MUCH BETTER in the education field.

I just fail to see how America is so "thickheaded" when compared to any other country. I also fail to see the point of this thread, other than making a bunch of random angry points about how "America sux HELL YES!." You can do the same with any country.

Yes i could, but i don't love any other country more than i do America. It's like seeing one of your family members ruining their own lives.

 

[Yuri]

Yeah, look up for my apology. Sorry again, I took it out of hand a bit.

Also, I figure that a lot more should be done about the economy besides raising minimum wage and only raising minimum wage. I didn't think it was 5.15, I thought it was something like 5.65, which is still shit but I dunno. I just personally think that not passing on the minimum wage bit was not completely stupid, but not doing anything about illegal immigration and occupations, and outsourcing is completely stupid.

 

[pvtbones]

...I also think its hilarious that you mentioned Iraq... are you ignoring the fact that British and Canadian forces are currently in Iraq as well? ...

quick clarification: Canada is not in Iraq, We are in Afghanistan.

 

[The Kaiser]

It takes me a few minutes to think up a strong argument against most countries, but with America it's spontaeneous.

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq...too many to name. And let's not forget Hiroshima. BTW, who set up the mujahideen into a position of power? Oh, that's right. America.

Trust me, if any other country was a superpower currently, let's say Germany, they'd have the same problems that we have in our position, in relations to the rest of the world. That's pretty much what happens when you have a world relation of one superpower, numerous smaller "world powers" and an a bunch of third-world nations and otherwise.

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq...too many to name. And let's not forget Hiroshima. BTW, who set up the mujahideen into a position of power? Oh, that's right. America.

1)For Korea, the North Vietnamese invaded South Korea, and the United Nations were the ones who had war declared against them. The United States simply followed in that case the U.N.'s orders and went in, supplying the largest amount of troops on the U.N. side. If anyone can be blarmed for the current state of (North) Korea, that belongs with China for basically going in when the U.N. forces had basically defeated N.K., and saving them, pushing the U.N. troops back to the 53rd (?) parallel. America cannot be held for Korea today. Again, that is China's fault for saving them back during the war.

2)Vietnam. Yes, America does hold some responsibility for their fear of Communism (Although not entirely unwarranted fear "We will bury you!"), but stuff like this happens. What about France during the 30-years war with its role of instigation, among other wars and such. Truthfully, Vietnam is held in a lot of contempt because it happened so recently, and at that point in history, atrocities commited by soldiers was not tolerated any longer (At least by most world govt.s and public eyes). Vietnam's a black stain on the world, but a result of the Cold War, not necessarily America's solely.

3)Iraq? Eh, yeah, it's a problem, but again not entirely caused by America. You can't exactly just group Iraq's problems all-together and just toss them at America saying "You did it!", due to numerous complications, involving imperialism, radicalism of Islam, among others.

4)Hiroshima and Nagasaki... Ah, this topic. Truthfully, I'd rather have Japan having lost two cities, than have lost possibly millions of civilians in an American beach-landing (With American casualties up to unhead-of levels, for any war), and then the Soviets coming in from the North, causing a North Japan, South Japan debacle, wouldn't you? The myths of "Japan ready to surrender" are just that, myths created by historical apologists. Japan's military sure as Hell wasn't going to surrender, and it would have been a much bloodier and costlier fight than just dropping two bombs that have had impacts to this day. A lesser of two evils if you will.

Yeah, I'd give you the Mujahdeen in Iran, that is largely our faults. The Cold War caused the "need" for the U.S. to do it, but we still went through with it, so that the Soviets couldn't get in there and do something similar.

 

[Ome_Vince]

Approval of President Bush's handling of Iraq dipped to 33 percent, a new low. His overall job approval was 35 percent, statistically within range of his low of 33 percent last month. The poll of 1,003 adults has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Among other findings:

* More than half, 54 percent, said it's unlikely that a stable, democratic government will be established in Iraq, a new high in AP-Ipsos polling. The survey was completed before Iraq's parliament approved three key new government ministers. Just 67 percent of Republicans, 63 percent of conservatives, and 57 percent of white evangelicals believed a stable, democratic government is likely.

* Only 68 percent of Republicans, 57 percent of white evangelicals and 51 percent of self-described conservatives -- key groups in Bush's base of support -- approved of his handling of Iraq. Those most likely to disapprove are Democrats (89 percent), women (70 percent), minorities (84 percent), city dwellers (72 percent), those with household incomes under $25,000 (71 percent), and unmarried men (70 percent).

* Those most likely to believe the war in Iraq was a mistake are Democrats (84 percent), women (63 percent), especially suburban women (67 percent), minorities (76 percent), city dwellers (66 percent), self-described liberals (82 percent), moderates (64 percent), and Catholics (62 percent).

SOURCE

Interesting Doesnt look like alot of Americans approve of their government and the Iraq war.

Especially after googling some more "interesting" polls:
overall 57% disapprove of Bush

Pretty split up yet most people seem to disaprove the decision to attack Iraq

Public support for the war has dropped considerably in the past year, with 55 percent telling pollsters in the same survey that they believed the United States made a mistake by invading Iraq

Perhaps the future will show some interesting changes.

 

[Element Alpha]

Hi guys

First, lol @ the :dork: that wrote this:

I just want to say in this edited post that the anti-white posts (joking or not) need to cease. Personally I'm offended by posts like that, being white myself, and would rather not have to read them when skimming through a politics article. thank you

=> There really should be an ignore list.

How do you propose we take nature's reigns?
I wish people would stop bitching about global warming.

-Over here in Europe, things are being done to maintain a curve towards cleaner energy consumption.
-I wish people would stop finding silly excuses to deny the ruinage of the world

And more on topic, most of the Americans should really try to view the world from outside of their borders; Some statements really are thickheaded and some of you all really are pretencious twats.
Nonetheless, as I understand it, America is pretty divided at the moment so I'll give you a break, but just a little one. If you are all still talking this trash in 10 years time, I'll now you're just beyond messed up.

 

[15357]

Seriously, somebody needs to walk into congress/senate/house of reps and just spray them with a Thompson. There’s waaaaayyyyyy too many rich-old(changed for you geogaddi)-corrupt politicians. I mean:

-Senate decides to not raise minimum wage? Those asshole can vote for a ****ing pay raise but not help the people who are getting shit on from big corporations?

-Allowing our world to be continually ****ed up with global warming and not do anything remotely serious to stop it. They do nothing knowing that once oil runs out the world’s economy is going to crash. I bet that alternative energy has already been created but those ****ing oil tycoons are paying some politicians/government/ or are in government and are keeping it suppressed.

-These ridiculous Video Game bans that are really the cause of a bunch of old people who are afraid of change and don't realize that nobody plays GTA4 so they can kill people. After about an hour into any game, all the "outer-wrappings" disappear and it becomes all about "how am I gunna get past this new obstacle" "should i sell this item? Maybe i should just save it." And don't get me started on how politicians are having a field day with some black guy ****ing his girlfriend in GTA while people are being IMPALED in prey or breaking peoples jaw with an axe in Condemned.

-How every news corp seems to think that Angelina’s new baby should get more coverage than our shitty-run-down-public schools. And not to mention that US schooling techniques are unbelievably flawed.

-Have a complete lack of any remotely worthy candidates to choose from for president.

-How we amazingly seem to never learn from our past mistakes. Arresting innocent Muslims living in the US after 911 (Japanese interment camps anyone?).

-How no action is being taken place to all of these corrupt politicians from the Bush Administration

#1 Well, you seem to me a bit red, and I mean by that that you'd prefer a sickle and hammer over a hamburger.

#2 The world isn't even remotely ****ed.

#3 Idiots, tey are.

#4 Its the people that are idiots, they listen to these stupid stories more.

#5 Same as above

#6 Stastically speaking, there are more muslim insurgents and jihadists than there are others.

#7 You have any proof that they are corrupt?


That is all.

It takes me a few minutes to think up a strong argument against most countries, but with America it's spontaeneous.

Vietnam, Korea, Iraq...too many to name. And let's not forget Hiroshima. BTW, who set up the mujahideen into a position of power? Oh, that's right. America.

Vietnam was a war against communism, as they've said. They had the slippery slope logical fallacy in there argument for the war though.

Korea. WHAT THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING? That was the most justified war ever in my opinion.

Iraq. No comment.

Hiroshima. That was justified. They just didn't know about radiation.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

The minimum age issue is not 'OMG THEY RAISE WAGE BUT NOT FOR US'

Take an economics class.

At the very least, if you're going to argue for it, put forth an actual arguement addressing the problems relating to the issue.

Edit: and how in the HELL is Korea even an iffy one? If we hadn't helped all of Korea would be like the North is now. As numbers said one of the MOST justified wars on a level with WWII. Just because the outcome wasn't a total victory like WWII doesn't mean it wasn't as justified.

 

[ComradeBadger]

I'm not saying its your fault
Although you could have done more


Life is so much easier when you can blame someone else for everything - be it corporations 'controlling' alternative energy, or old politicians keeping the minimum wage down - I'm not saying there isn't a grain of truth, I just think it's a silly mindset.

Here's what the CATO institute has to say about Global Warming:

http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/reg15n2g.html

 

[Double_Blade]

I had to agree with the OP.

Imo, America is out of balance and people will have no limit to what they want. And there are video game bills made by thick-headed legislators like Roy Burrell, Jack Thompson, Morgan, Joe Lieberman and the others.

May God bless America and help it turn into a pure country.

 

[Reaktor4]

Snip

Money.

 

[Korgoth]

What you have is simple, the same people who claim that we are setting up a government a democracy a free way of life for the people of iraq (to justify our being there) are also the racist dirt bags who are first to scream "My god these people are savages and should be blown off the map" whenever a troop is killed.

No one wants to admit they were wrong, and no one is willing to accept blame, its simple human nature

 

[Sulkdodds]

People in power are generally going to be twats, because most people, when put in power, will abandon (whatever they might pretend to others or even themselves) all pretense of being concerned about anyone but themselves and their fellows-in-power. If there's an opportunity they're going to take it. Everyone = arseholes, but America = biggest, most powerful and most prominent arsehole that has the nerve to pretend it's an anti-arsehole.

That said, whatever happens, the general living standard in the western world could be a hell of a lot worse. The things we take for granted - our relatively comfortable lives - are surely worth something.

 

[Yuri]

quick clarification: Canada is not in Iraq, We are in Afghanistan.

I'm sorry

Hi guys

First, lol @ the :dork: that wrote this:

I just want to say in this edited post that the anti-white posts (joking or not) need to cease. Personally I'm offended by posts like that, being white myself, and would rather not have to read them when skimming through a politics article. thank you

=> There really should be an ignore list.

You realize he was joking, right?

You also realize that there is an ignore list?

I'm not seeing why he is a dork or how is stupid by being offended by a racist comment.