Why no US exclusive?

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Hunchback

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While i live in the uk, and therefore looking forward to the two reviews out on Oct 5th, can we read anything into the fact that (at least to the best of my knowledge) a review hasn't been announced by a U.S. mag? Do they have a different review policy, waiting for an offical gold disc before they start? Or is it just that european magazine release dates are more immanent, and as a result able to apply some degree of pressure onto VUG....?

thoughts welcome...

Cheers,

d
 
I was thinking that was strange too...

Maybe Americans have forgotten how to read since Dubyah directed all the country's resources away from education etc and into chasing shadows and as such a review would be pointless.

OR maybe they have reviews and just aren't saying anything yet?
 
Maybe the VU issue only occurs in the US and all of us in Europe will get it in a few days. Can you imagine. lol.
 
Or maybe some PC Magazines haven't announced it yet. It's pretty certain that US magazines are going to have the review.
 
VBN said:
Maybe the VU issue only occurs in the US and all of us in Europe will get it in a few days. Can you imagine. lol.
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lol that'd be great, after all the times we've had to wait for them. I'd laugh my ass off.

They'd probably just blame the French and re-name it 'Freedom Life 2' or something though..

I'm just messin round btw, yanks. You're alright.
 
If the UK version of PC Gamer has a review in their next issue, it's almost certain that the US edition will too.
 
October will be the month for print magazines to show their reviews so it's likely there will be worldwide reviews over the coming weeks.

A lot of the European magazines have brought their release dates for the magazines forward to get the reviews first. PC Zone for example is out a week early (I should be getting mine this week \o/).

I guess it all depends on the magazines publishing cycles too as to when the reviews appear.
 
Axyon said:
If the UK version of PC Gamer has a review in their next issue, it's almost certain that the US edition will too.
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And knowing how PC Gamer does reviews, the UK mag will love the game and the US will hate it, leaving you wondering what the game is actually like.
 
dbsynergy said:
And knowing how PC Gamer does reviews, the UK mag will love the game and the US will hate it, leaving you wondering what the game is actually like.
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Eh, you can only really decide these things properly by playing the game yourself; especially when it's a high calibre game like this and a few 'publications' will be rating it lower just to be 'original'.
 
Axyon said:
Eh, you can only really decide these things properly by playing the game yourself; especially when it's a high calibre game like this and a few 'publications' will be rating it lower just to be 'original'.
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True, but you forgot to mention mags that give games high scores out of 'courtesy'. Not naming any names or anything but rumours spread.
 
JimmyPage said:
I was thinking that was strange too...

Maybe Americans have forgotten how to read since Dubyah directed all the country's resources away from education etc and into chasing shadows and as such a review would be pointless.

OR maybe they have reviews and just aren't saying anything yet?
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I also enjoy derailing threads with needless political bullshit <3
 
I hope Edge get its hands on it for a review. I really like there journalism style. I dont think they'd go nuts and give it 5/5 just because they got a review copy early *cough*PC Gamer UK *cough* Not sure what the others are like (PC Zone etc) but I think I might wait until they get a review copy IF they get one!
 
Advertising revenue for good reviews. Sadly, some magazines just can't resist being unscrupulous just to make a few more quid.
 
brisck1 said:
I hope Edge get its hands on it for a review. I really like there journalism style. I dont think they'd go nuts and give it 5/5 just because they got a review copy early *cough*PC Gamer UK *cough* Not sure what the others are like (PC Zone etc) but I think I might wait until they get a review copy IF they get one!
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Since when do PC Gamer do things like that?

EDIT: What I mean, of course, is give examples.
 
I suppose their mind-set is 'well.. its only a video-game' but its still pretty irritating.

Slightly off-topic but do any of the UK or Irish people here remember Digitiser? The teletext games mag that finished up about 2 years ago?
The main writer Mr Biffo went on a one man anti-corruption campaign with regards game reviews and became public enemy number one for a long time with some of the official magazines.

Mean-Machines Sega (now dead) were the main culprits when it came to taking 'hospitality packs' from publishers in return for good reviews. Result was a year long war between the two mags, and some really funny letters from angry 12year old sega fans!

Ahh memories!
 
Would it be too much to ask that people please base their critisims of reviews by actually reading them? Instead of just looking at the score and going "OMG, it's too high!!!11one". Journalists spend quite a lot of effort trying to write a review of what the game is like. And if you read the reviews a lot of issues of the game are usually addressed.
 
Feath said:
Would it be too much to ask that people please base their critisims of reviews by actually reading them? Instead of just looking at the score and going "OMG, it's too high!!!11one". Journalists spend quite a lot of effort trying to write a review of what the game is like. And if you read the reviews a lot of issues of the game are usually addressed.
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The problem is when the issues are addressed in the review but not reflected in the score. Doom 3 was a perfect example of this (sorry I'm not trying to start a Doom bashing thread here, I got it for free so i dont really care if it wasnt as good a game as I'd hoped).

The tone of PCgamers review was luke-warm for the most part, the reviewer mentioned several issues with the game and it got what? 94 or something? Obviously I dont have evidence to say that there was anything suspicious about it but I don't think I'm the only person who thought there was something fishy there.
 
JimmyPage said:
The tone of PCgamers review was luke-warm for the most part, the reviewer mentioned several issues with the game and it got what? 94 or something? Obviously I dont have evidence to say that there was anything suspicious about it but I don't think I'm the only person who thought there was something fishy there.
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Well, Gamespot did a lot more complaining than praising in their Doom 3 review, and still gave it a great score. It's very easy to find lots of annoying points about a game, but still finding good qualities that make you overlook these problems. It really only gets fishy when you know the result of the review a good few weeks in advance or something (like Unreal 2; on the main site, it claimed PC Zone gave it 94% and some award ages before the magazine ever came out), or when pretty much everyone else disagrees (Unreal 2 once again, yet Doom 3 got good scores all around).
 
i understand what everyone's said, but for the us mag's not to even announce incoming reviews appears...well, eerily conspicuous don't you think? there has to be a reason

as for the standard of uk reviews, for me there's been some discrepencies in the text of the reciews, and the actual score....90% for me, and i think by their own review guidelines, should be reserved for games that significantly progress/alter/create a genre, not simply a 'flawed' classic....(i.e. max payne 2, doom3, deus ex 2 e.t.c) though i think overall they pick up on most of the faults...

cheers,

d
 
I have a question: We that don't live in UK (and not in the US), how will we be able to read the articels with no scanning/copying allowed?
 
The_Monkey said:
I have a question: We that don't live in UK (and not in the US), how will we be able to read the articels with no scanning/copying allowed?
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You'd still have to buy it. It's just that you'd have to either get someone from the UK to mail you a copy, or find a shop that sells the UK version. :)
 
oh there will be easily accessible text copies on the net from the articles unofficially, you can be sure
 
JimmyPage said:
The problem is when the issues are addressed in the review but not reflected in the score. Doom 3 was a perfect example of this (sorry I'm not trying to start a Doom bashing thread here, I got it for free so i dont really care if it wasnt as good a game as I'd hoped).

The tone of PCgamers review was luke-warm for the most part, the reviewer mentioned several issues with the game and it got what? 94 or something? Obviously I dont have evidence to say that there was anything suspicious about it but I don't think I'm the only person who thought there was something fishy there.
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90%. The reviewer did mention the issues with the game (old style gameplay etc.) but he said that if you don't just rush through it and just play it for a few hours at a time, it's actually enjoyable.
 
I believe PC Gamer UK subscribers get theres around 5 days early, so we may possibly hear somthing as soon as friday.
 
Hunchback said:
i understand what everyone's said, but for the us mag's not to even announce incoming reviews appears...well, eerily conspicuous don't you think? there has to be a reason
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It could just be as simple a reason as they don't update their site enough or don't post on their message forum. PC Gamer UK only annouced their review because PC Zone did.
 
Lobster said:
I believe PC Gamer UK subscribers get theres around 5 days early, so we may possibly hear somthing as soon as friday.
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Hmm, but then again PC Gamer pushed back their release date so they didn't break the NDA. Maybe subscribers won't get their magazines as early this time.
 
KagePrototype said:
You'd still have to buy it. It's just that you'd have to either get someone from the UK to mail you a copy, or find a shop that sells the UK version. :)
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That's great, the only UK persons I know is Mr and Mrs Hussain from Torquay. :)
 
Maybe if you read the Quake 4 article backwards and upside down it's the HL2 exclusive review, out before any other mag..... or not, would be cool though, the final test, reading the exclusive review through the guise of a quake 4 preview
 
ahahaha there will be a riot in America, them not getting a game first?
All the dumbass americans will be like " BUT WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ". I'd love for UK, or infact any European country to get the game first, pure honour :p .


*Please come out soon HL2.

iF.
 
I read a review for Doom 3 AFTER I bought it (the day it came out). All together I spent around $125 buying new gear for Doom 3 (keyboard, mouse, etc.) Then I read the review for some reason. I don't know why I did that, actually.

But hey, HL2 has good reviews coming, I bet. Even if they say it's a POS, I'm gonna play it because I really want to smash things with boxes.
 
ItchyFish said:
ahahaha there will be a riot in America, them not getting a game first?
All the dumbass americans will be like " BUT WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ". I'd love for UK, or infact any European country to get the game first, pure honour :p .



iF.
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when pigs fly, dude.
 
ItchyFish said:
ahahaha there will be a riot in America, them not getting a game first?
All the dumbass americans will be like " BUT WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ". I'd love for UK, or infact any European country to get the game first, pure honour :p .


*Please come out soon HL2.

iF.
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It happens actually, ever heard of a game called Gothic and Gothic 2? They are underated games that I absolutely love but North America didn't get them until around 6 months after they were first released in Germany I think.

Also lay off the anti-Americanism, you don't make yourself seem intelligent by insulting someone else.
 
Feath said:
90%. The reviewer did mention the issues with the game (old style gameplay etc.) but he said that if you don't just rush through it and just play it for a few hours at a time, it's actually enjoyable.
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Isn't that the UK version? I was actually talking about the original US review that was posted everywhere just before Doom 3 came out. 90 is still too high IMO for a game which by the reviewers own admission is flawed though. Not that it matters much now anyway .

BTW thats exactly how I played it - in small doses. It just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. And I like running and gunning!
 
JimmyPage said:
Isn't that the UK version? I was actually talking about the original US review that was posted everywhere just before Doom 3 came out. 90 is still too high IMO for a game which by the reviewers own admission is flawed though. Not that it matters much now anyway .

BTW thats exactly how I played it - in small doses. It just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. And I like running and gunning!
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I thought you were referring to the UK version. Of course Doom III has flaws, that's why it didn't get higher than 90%. But 90% is only 1% off 89%, which looks like a lot lower score. I do think that Doom 3 deserves a score in the high 80s.
 
I don't understand why people get pissy when a game is released here and not there. I mean look, how many games get released in Japan, that look totally sweet, but I never get to play them becuase they never release them here, or they release them here like a year later. I don't whine about it, why, because the game was made in Japan.

Take Valve for instance, an American game company planning a worldwide release. If Valve were a Japanese company planning a worldwide release i'd be gratefull, if they did a Japanese release then an American release some time later, i'd still be happy that I get to play the damn thing.

Don't feel left out, i'm sure there are great games that all sides of the pond miss out on because of one reason or another. But its truly cool when we all get to share the experience together, ah, brotherhood.
 
hmm...just curious, do the PC Gamer UK and US not work together or something? i used to have a subscription long time ago but now since im outta the loop kinda.. just wondering.. are they separately working? makes sense to work together... hence an October preview/review of HL2 logical in both mags
 
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