Why no Women in CS:S?

[glHalfLife]

Women can be terrorists or CT's aswell!

Note: I am a male :cheers:

Whats your thoughts?

 

[VodkA-HLC-]

Maybe you never played cs before but there are what is called mods. You change the skins of terrorists to porn stars or change the ct models to hot topless chicks, the solution is endlees, wait for the game to be released so that the mod community jumps on it to make all the mods your little heart desires. Um k? MMMM hi poly res counts of hot naked female hostages. Makes you actually want to save the hostages.

 

[glHalfLife]

I am not looking for porn sh*t man! Just wondering why all the models are males and not slightly mixed?

The mod idea is probably about right.

 

[ignot]

Probably the same reason there are no fat people in CS and everyone is the same height.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Maybe they really are, but they are dressed up like men :O

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Maybe you never played cs before but there are what is called mods. You change the skins of terrorists to porn stars or change the ct models to hot topless chicks, the solution is endlees, wait for the game to be released so that the mod community jumps on it to make all the mods your little heart desires. Um k? MMMM hi poly res counts of hot naked female hostages. Makes you actually want to save the hostages.

hmm. all that aside, one would think by now Valve would have added a female model to CS.
i mean how does the PC gaming community make progress in terms of matching console gamging popularity if game developers are not taking the time to do these little things?

bliink, Ritz, SHIPPI i would like ur opinions and suggestions on this topic please.

 

[bliink]

It does get repetitive/frustrating playing as a guy in every game.. the only females being tomb-raider types.. you know.. skimpily clad, large chested women lol

but its not a major problem or anything.. i dont really mind- it'd be nice to have some female models, like hldm, but its not really essential, it doesnt particularly change the gameplay.
I do think though, that it'd be nice to have a few here and there.. i'm not saying add them to CSS (unless they wanted to add heaps and heaps of models) but, gina is the only on i can think of now thats not just a sex-icon

 

[smwScott]

Because women aren't generally allowed to be combatants. And think about this, do you honestly believe a terrorist organization would let a woman wield a gun? It would be stupid and unrealistic.

I guess it would be ok for the hostages though.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Because women aren't generally allowed to be combatants. And think about this, do you honestly believe a terrorist organization would let a woman wield a gun? It would be stupid and unrealistic.

I guess it would be ok for the hostages though.

but its a game, not real life man.. sheesh
btw, i don't know where ur from, but i have seen women in the army/navy/seals etc.
times are changing and with attitude like urs, u won't get too far.

 

[bliink]

Because women aren't generally allowed to be combatants. And think about this, do you honestly believe a terrorist organization would let a woman wield a gun? It would be stupid and unrealistic.

I guess it would be ok for the hostages though.

here's two terrorists:
http://www.israel-wat.com/woman3.jpg
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/data/images/2004/01/19/mechabla-s.jpg

here's some female soldiers
http://www.arcent.army.mil/cflcc_today/2003/january/images/female soldier.jpg
http://www.bragg.army.mil/coscom/IG/Female soldier.jpg
http://www.haefely.info/ArmeeXXI/female-soldier-engl.jpg

EDIT: and that was after 2 seconds googling

 

[xLostx]

lmao @ those female terrorists

 

[carl_hewitt2000]

well there can never at this time be a female SAS skin from a realism point of view because we do not allow woman to be in combat roles in her majestys forces.
the woman who are in our military have roles such as medical and such and such but (and i could be wrong) last i checked we do not have combative woman which is a choice i personally agree with but lets avoid starting a sex v sex arguement.
now i wouldn't mind some female hostages in order to put some variation into the game.

(from UK btw)

and be aware nothing i have said is intented to cause offence so nobody get their knickers in a twist lol, (sorry couldn't help putting that expression in )

 

[Link]

Bear in mind that one of the CT teams is the SAS (Or rather was, and will be) and you can't have women in the SAS

 

[Assassin X]

Umm....There are FEMALE SWAT members (MY aunt is one!). As for CT i dont think there are any. As for terrorist im pretty sure the religon doesnt allow females to be terrorist.

Anyways i love being females in games. Not for reasons like most guys do. THe only problem with making female models is stupid people would start making NUDE skins and all that crap and ruining it as always.

 

[smwScott]

but its a game, not real life man.. sheesh
btw, i don't know where ur from, but i have seen women in the army/navy/seals etc.
times are changing and with attitude like urs, u won't get too far.

Attitude like mine? What I said is true, stop burying your head in the sand. In the American armed forces, women are rarely allowed into combatant roles. They are usually delegated to support. Of course a lot of women in the army carry weapons, they're in a hostile environment - that doesn't mean the Army puts them on the front lines. As for CS, all the CT units featured in the game are special forces - something women aren't even allowed in (I know this is true for England and the US, not sure about the two other countries).

As for the terrorists ... surprising. I highly doubt that is commonplace considering their attitude towards women.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Attitude like mine? What I said is true, stop burying your head in the sand. In the American armed forces, women are rarely allowed into combatant roles. They are usually delegated to support. Of course a lot of women in the army carry weapons, they're in a hostile environment - that doesn't mean the Army puts them on the front lines. As for CS, all the CT units featured in the game are special forces - something women aren't even allowed in (I know this is true for England and the US, not sure about the two other countries).

As for the terrorists ... surprising. I highly doubt that is commonplace considering their attitude towards women.

but its a damn GAME.
if pple can't accept this in games, then how in reality can they ever accept it? my goodness..

anyway i am not gonna bother with this discussion because for whatever reason, pple forget that CS is a game and not real life.
having a female CS model will not change the tactics of the game much.. and thats how i see it.

 

[[w0f]Oblivion]

you guys do realise that in 1.6 there was a female ct model?

 

[smwScott]

but its a damn GAME.
if pple can't accept this in games, then how in reality can they ever accept it? my goodness..

anyway i am not gonna bother with this discussion because for whatever reason, pple forget that CS is a game and not real life.
having a female CS model will not change the tactics of the game much.. and thats how i see it.

Well ... some people like to have games run parallel to the real life counterparts. I would have no problem playing as a woman, my favorite FPS series is No One Lives Forever. I would however have a problem playing a female Navy SEAL, as that is just factually inaccurate.

Also, the reason people don't accept it in real life isn't because of sexism but because of physical difference between men and women. The simple truth is that on average men are built better for handling special operations and main combatant roles.

And what was the female CT model in 1.6? I certainly don't recall that.

 

[bliink]

As for terrorist im pretty sure the religon doesnt allow females to be terrorist.

Uhh.. there seems to be alot of confusion as to what a terrorist actually is- alot of you dont seem to know.
A terrorist is not any muslim or whatever, (religion??) and theres not like some type of organised union with terrorists who say "oh yes.. you can/cant employ women!"
A terrorist has the: "characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells"

Just so you know.. a 'terrorist' is basically any criminal off the street, except using 'terror' tactics and who is usually politically motivated.

theres no single organised body of terrorists, therefore, the argument that terrorists 'wouldnt allow' women isnt really applicable.

As for having them as CT's, well, a lot of armies etc wont have women in combat roles- true, however dont forget CT's do not just have to be military- they're cops too... and women are in a farly large amount of elite police units.
also, I'm not trying to argue, but, this looks like a combative position in a US force:
http://www.arcent.army.mil/cflcc_today/2003/january/images/female soldier.jpg

EDIT: however, I do agree that a male is probably better suited to combat than a female, i'm not arguing that- but with military training, both are highly effective against lesser enemies, the degree of training etc certainly makes a difference

 

[Zeus]

Because whenever they went to throw a grenade they would go

"uhhh ehhh!!!" throwing the nade a total of 2 feet killing all the T's/CT's
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Nah, jk, didn't you notice there are also no weight differences everyone is the same height, ect

 

[Hood]

Woman should remain house wives.

 

[codeninja]

Errr...

Religion has nothing to do with whether someone is a terrorist or not (although Bush may disagree).

Women AND children will pick up a gun and fight for what they believe in.

If you can work out why Valve decided that shooting kids in the face with an MP5 was a bad idea from a PR perspective, maybe that tells you why there aren't any women...

As it is today, its perfectly ok to shoot a pixelated man in the face, but not a woman or child. Go figure.

 

[Illegal Amigo]

If CS was a game where we cook and clean we would want female models.

 

[Tnid]

Errr...
As it is today, its perfectly ok to shoot a pixelated man in the face, but not a woman or child. Go figure.

You can shoot a pixelated woman in a computer game...
Those ninjas in NOLF2 are females... and you can kill quite a lot of them too...

And you can always take the AA approach... every side see the other team as men, while in side the team you can see each other as women and men...
So you can't shoot women directly...(unless FF in on)

 

[bi0h4z4rd]

my wife is a spc. in the u.s. army

 

[Homer]

Female soldiers are all in non-combat positions(afaik). Think about it, do we really want a female soldier getting captured by some of the dudes we are fighting? We know damn well what would happen.

Plus, the LAST thing we need on the front lines is sexual tension. Just look at the pregnancy rate in the navy.

On the other hand, if they can get into the shape nessisairy(same reqs as the guys) for the combat assignments then there is no reason there couldnt be all female or combined units.

 

[BigWalnutZ]

SEALS and 99% of the rest of the US military force do NOT allow women on the front lines. they may arrive there as they are usually supply runners and may get stuck up there, but they are not stationed there. the tendency of men to protect women causes problems when it comes to frontline combat, you may be more apt to protect the female. also a women captured in war would be like a blow up doll for the enemy forces. they would be abused and raped WITHOUT any doubt. for all of the above reasons in real life and who cares in the game.

all of this was told to me by a non-active duty career Army Undercover operations guy that goes to Penn State with me. I wpuld venture to guess he knows more than most of us

 

[<?>..::ButcheR::]

dont care if there are women or not in css, but in jointoperations typhoon rising there are plenty of female models so some games are using it.

 

[Bullseye]

its probably because other wise the terroists and CT might hold there wrong gun... or shoot with the wrong amunition...

 

[Andy]

Uhh.. there seems to be alot of confusion as to what a terrorist actually is- alot of you dont seem to know.
A terrorist is not any muslim or whatever, (religion??) and theres not like some type of organised union with terrorists who say "oh yes.. you can/cant employ women!"
A terrorist has the: "characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells"

Just so you know.. a 'terrorist' is basically any criminal off the street, except using 'terror' tactics and who is usually politically motivated.

theres no single organised body of terrorists, therefore, the argument that terrorists 'wouldnt allow' women isnt really applicable.

Good point. Well made.

 

[Krilla]

Guys I see alot see alot of preconceived ideas in her.
First of all If women can be just as good soldiers as men.
It´s true that they don´t have the same stamina and strength as men.
But they have enough. So if women pass the same test as men there is only one thing that would stop them and that is because we men can´t
deal with it. In Sweden we have women in our special forces, there are not many of them but the ones that are there is just as tuff as the guys.

And another thing that everybody seems to forget is that THE WORLD is not =USA.

When some of you talk about terrorists you assume they are muslims.
Because you people in the USA thinks that. And because your goverment wants you to think that. Many people around the world and not just in the muslim countries thinks that YOU the USA is the biggest terrorist. Don´t get me wrong I don´t belive all americans are stupid and ignorant nationalists. But your goverment sure is and you have woted for it.

Well this was way of topic but some of the posts in here are just so F**king stupid and USA-isch

There should på women models in CSS and there hopefully will be some soon. Remember CSS is not reality. So they only reason reason (once again) not to add female models are that we GUYS wouldn´t be able to deal with it. Let us in the gaming community set a good example.

 

[bliink]

the tendency of men to protect women causes problems when it comes to frontline combat, you may be more apt to protect the female.

I also read that guys get mentally messed up when they see a female getting shot up etc, it has some weird effect thats supposed to be unpredictable but definitely bad for a soldier.

also a women captured in war would be like a blow up doll for the enemy forces. they would be abused and raped WITHOUT any doubt. for all of the above reasons in real life and who cares in the game.

and theres that. which is a good point, however the guy initially started the thread based on CT stuff, so you would expect there would be fewer scenario's where CT's would end up captured (you know, due to crisis perimeters etc)