Why you shouldn't claim other people's work as your own (was: Oil Painting)

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Beakshy is not Arsenic and just to let you know, he claimed that he could become a sound artsist and ofcourse he probably sent us crap as work, which wasn't really his so he has been permantly banned from OSP. http://www.shadow-phoenix.com is where this rat joined and now we are getting him off, this is a disgrace and I pity the fool that actually tried to steal the work, so please Beakshy is a great guy and gave him webspace since he was new on the team, so that tells us now thanks to a few people like ben who pointed this out to me so we are getting this cleared NOW! so please burn this kid to the ground and make him feel like crap. But please dont let this affect any judgement on OSp we are a hard working staff that really wants to create a great mod but not with theives on the team, so hes gone and banned so dont worry about him. He has NOT submitted any work to OSP either, but I thank all of you at this for giving him a piece of mind and finding that he is a FAKE, onec again I thank you :)
Oldfaq

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OSP Lead 3D Modeler
 
oldfaq said:
Hello,
Beakshy is not Arsenic and just to let you know, he claimed that he could become a sound artsist and ofcourse he probably sent us crap as work, which wasn't really his so he has been permantly banned from OSP. http://www.shadow-phoenix.com is where this rat joined and now we are getting him off, this is a disgrace and I pity the fool that actually tried to steal the work, so please Beakshy is a great guy and gave him webspace since he was new on the team, so that tells us now thanks to a few people like ben who pointed this out to me so we are getting this cleared NOW! so please burn this kid to the ground and make him feel like crap. But please dont let this affect any judgement on OSp we are a hard working staff that really wants to create a great mod but not with theives on the team, so hes gone and banned so dont worry about him. He has NOT submitted any work to OSP either, but I thank all of you at this for giving him a piece of mind and finding that he is a FAKE, onec again I thank you :)
Oldfaq

OSP Co-Leader
OSP Lead 3D Modeler
Hey don't worry, I had my doubts that Beakshy was the same fella, I'd been looking into it and they didn't seem to come across as the same guy, and earlier in the thread I warned people not to whois that domain and send hate mail to Beakshy just incase he was entirely innocent in all this.
 
I was the person who notified the team grrrr imagine me just having a look and seeing this topic and thinking "Hoho this could be a good laugh" and finding out 1 rouge member is bringing the reputation of the MOD you are working on down. Good job we got this sorted then :D
 
^Ben said:
I was the person who notified the team grrrr imagine me just having a look and seeing this topic and thinking "Hoho this could be a good laugh" and finding out 1 rouge member is bringing the reputation of the MOD you are working on down. Good job we got this sorted then :D
naa don't worry about it. Your mod was never in question and neither was the actions of any others involved on that mod. Just him.

If you have any info on the guy, feel free to PM it to me though :)
 
Ok, Hi everyone! I'm John Wallin and I'm the guy who made that painting

Sigh, Arsenic, you could at least have stolen one of my better paintings...and if you estimate that it would take you 2 months to make it I'm really flattered cause it took me 2 hours tops, The painting is inspired by some pictures I saw from the game marathon, wich was made by Craig Mullins. it's 100% photoshop and I think you should visit some art museums so you can se what oils do, don't insult oils by making people think that digital painting is!

and to everyone else, cheers!

John
 
Sorry John, those models and his site are out of there when beakshy gets back in about 1 hour :D
 
Capt.FlushGarden said:
Ok, Hi everyone! I'm John Wallin and I'm the guy who made that painting

Sigh, Arsenic, you could at least have stolen one of my better paintings...and if you estimate that it would take you 2 months to make it I'm really flattered cause it took me 2 hours tops, The painting is inspired by some pictures I saw from the game marathon, wich was made by Craig Mullins. it's 100% photoshop and I think you should visit some art museums so you can se what oils do, don't insult oils by making people think that digital painting is!

and to everyone else, cheers!

John
ack, now I feel bad, I shoulda realised it was yours (you know me, mate of Adrians' shhh keeping my name quiet on here ;) Hate to say it but yours was one of the few sites I didn't get around to checking. Sorry man :)
 
Hah, this type of ownage is always the best, right?

I'm glad he got owned, people like that shouldn't even deserve having acces to the interweb.
 
MaxiKana said:
Hah, this type of ownage is always the best, right?

I'm glad he got owned, people like that shouldn't even deserve having acces to the interweb.
Heh yeah. I was beginning to get worried the real artist would never be found. Should thank Scribblehead. must have been his posts that were seen.

guess I'll always wonder who did those older images he showed under other accounts though.
 
wow. nice work everyone. this guy sounds a little too far fetched to me. who the hell would be stupid enough to steal all those images and claim they are his own? the mind boggles.

we had an instance of a potential concept artist trying to fob us off with stolen work. i recognised it from a portfolio i'd seen on conceptart.org. he was just a kid though. the artist who drew the pieces he stole, sent him a nice letter from his solicitor. i feel bad for the kid, but i suppose he deserved it for being stupid.

let that be a lesson to everyone eh.
 
hehe atleast i was right about the apparent marathon inspiration :)

i'm glad we found the right artist
 
scribblehead said:
hehe atleast i was right about the apparent marathon inspiration :)

i'm glad we found the right artist
Yeah, pissed at myself that it was John though, I really should have recognised it.
 
WOW
that is amazing
I will love make things like that

great work
 
I wonder if ol' <RJMC> read through this thread.

Glad this got sorted, then. Arsenic's real name is still Dan Milligan. Just so everyone knows.

I'll beat him up for you guys if I ever find him, 'k?

Did Ichi apologise to the dude he mistook for Arsenic?
 
...so whats gonna happen to this guy then? is his site going to be banned? are more than just the artists going to be informed? i mean, what makes internet fraud any different from stealing real art and claiming it to be yours? I think he should get fined or something, i really dont think he should be able to walk away with nothing but the embarrasment (in which case he just gets a new name and starts again). :flame:
 
I place the curses of "A Terribly And Chronically Runny Nose" and "A Tendency To Fall Over" upon him.

On a more serious note, I'm in the "Jail Time" camp on this one. Passing someone else's work off as your own is inexcusable.
 
Brian Damage said:
I wonder if ol' <RJMC> read through this thread.

Glad this got sorted, then. Arsenic's real name is still Dan Milligan. Just so everyone knows.

I'll beat him up for you guys if I ever find him, 'k?

Did Ichi apologise to the dude he mistook for Arsenic?

brain damage, I hope you don't find him. Dan Milligan is a great artist and guy, I wouldn't want him beat up. His work is absolutely stunning.


his conceptart.org sketchbook thread

his website
 
Please leave me out of this

Someone on conceptart brought this thread to my attention:
Having ones art stolen is one thing
Being wrongfully accused is another

BRAIN DAMAGE;

I never have or will be arsenic, got it. Get your facts correct before you go off your crusade. If this person has stolen my work that’s their cross to bare. But remember the power of the internet and don't be so cavalier when posting accusations.

Thank you
DAN MILLIGAN
 
Dan's brought up a good point, people are starting to get too paranoid, I said at the beginning not to send hate mail to the beakshy guy because it likely wasn't the same one, same applies here.

Brian, you were in the wrong.Would appreciate it if you could apologies to the guy.

And on that note I'll close the thread shortly as it looks like only John and Dan's work was ripped off. As such its entirely up to those guys whats done about him. If they want to leave it be or if they want to take it further.
 
Dan Milligan said:
Thank you Fenric

Peace
Dan
No worries, glad you both were found in the end. If you need his details let us know, and I'm sure the mod he was involved with will be happy to help in the same way also.
 
For the information of all concerned:

Fenric said:
Looks like he ripped off the entire site design. We can only assume absolutely nothing he has ever shown us is his own work.


Incidently Arsenic comes up with this match now
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/member.php?u=15320

Who also joined the same day Arsenic last visited ;)

- That is what I was going off. The user "Tipsy" was matched to Arsenic. Tipsy made one post, here.

Tipsy signs the post "Dan Milligan". I thought he'd been dumb enough to sign his name.

Didn't realise that he was an impersonator too. If I got the wrong idea, I'm sorry. Sorry for wanting to catch a bloody art thief. Sorry for even trying.

Oh, and about the beating up: I was flippin' joking. Or wasn't that apparent?

Though if I do ever find the real Arsenic, I'll at least give him a piece of my mind.
 
Before anyone goes off at me again, I'll put it this way:

I thought, from the info I gave above, that Arsenic's real name was "Dan Milligan".

I was NOT claiming IN ANY FORM OR FASHION that the artist Dan Milligan, the real Dan Milligan, was Arsenic the art thief. There are probably more than a million people named "Dan Milligan" on the planet, aand one of them, I suspected, was Arsenic. I'd never even heard of you, Mr. Milligan, until you posted here.

Sorry if I wasn't psychic enough to realise that he was also stealing someone else's name.
 
On that note I'm closing it. We're trying to build bridges with the guys on conceptart.org and other sites. Not piss them off.

Brian, you should have done a search for Dan's name on google or checked various sites before commenting. I hadn't brought up how Tipsy signed his post because it was, i thought. Understood that nothing he posted was true. I suppose in that case I should take part of the blame, I should have made a post clearly pointing out that he was not who he claimed to be.

Looking back, its obvious he (Tipsy) had used Dan's name to avoid being found out after a good chunk of Dan's work was found on his site. I admit that I should have realised that, but I didn't. So on behalf of hl2.net, its staff and its otherwise decent users. I'd like to apologies to Dan and John and that we will continue to keep our eyes open incase he or anyone else tries pull a stunt like that around here again.

Cheers

Fen.
 
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