WMD stockpile found in Iraq

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too bad they're from pre 1991 and are "less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point,"


Yahoo said:
Hundreds of chemical weapons found in Iraq were produced before the 1991 Gulf War and probably are so old they couldn't be used as designed, intelligence officials said Thursday.

on Wednesday circulated a one-page summary of a military intelligence report that says coalition forces have recovered about 500 munitions with mustard or sarin agents, and more could be discovered around Iraq. "We now have found stockpiles," Santorum asserted.

But intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the subject's sensitive nature, said the weapons were produced before the 1991 Gulf War and there is no evidence to date of chemical munitions manufactured since then. They said an assessment of the weapons concluded they are so degraded that they couldn't now be used as designed.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_go_co/iraq_s_weapons
 
yes they are ..or were

"500 munitions with mustard or sarin agents ..intended for chemical attacks during the Iran-Iraq War"
 
Yeah, we already knew about those cuz we supplied them with a lot of the weapons and we knew of their existance.

We also knew for a fact that they were useless long before we invaded.
 
He was still supposed to have gotten rid of all of these, whether they are pre 1991 or not.
 
couldn't now be used as designed.
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Doesnt say they cant be used, says they cant be used as designed :)
In which i wonder, what do they mean by that? They cant be fired as/from missles or what?

Thats great, but perhaps the gass still works, and you can still do some fun stuff with it when you lob some around :)

Yet indeed, its definatly not even close to something to wage war over...

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Whoeps:
He said experts on Iraq's chemical weapons are in "almost 100 percent agreement" that sarin nerve agent produced from the 1980s would no longer be dangerous.
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less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point,"
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LOL. Wonder why Hussein didn't bother restocking. Or recycling them for more conventional munitions.
 
Glirk Dient said:
He was still supposed to have gotten rid of all of these, whether they are pre 1991 or not.
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Lolz saddam didn't take out the trash! LET'S INVADE!
 
CptStern said:
too bad they're from pre 1991 and are "less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point,"
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Does this mean my house is eligible for US invasion?

What really burns me:

Asked about the potential danger to U.S. troops, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said: "They are weapons of mass destruction. They are harmful to human beings. And they have been found."

Nice, cheap, retroactive justification, you heaping sack of shit.
 
Ludah said:
Does this mean my house is eligible for US invasion?

What really burns me:

Asked about the potential danger to U.S. troops, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said: "They are weapons of mass destruction. They are harmful to human beings. And they have been found."

Nice, cheap, retroactive justification, you heaping sack of shit.
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C'mon be nice, he's an old man. It's probably early in the morning again.
 
Bush, Powell and Rumsfeld - parters in crime.
Kind of like the three stooges, only more dangerous D:
 
Powell is the most agreeable and likable of all of them, but he still went along for the ride. Willingly or not, he pushed for the war. As decent a guy he may be, he is as accountable is anybody.
 
MaxiKana said:
Lolz saddam didn't take out the trash! LET'S INVADE!
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It's not that he didn't throw away the useless WMDs...its that you can use those to make more WMDs so he was holding on to them so he could still make them if he wanted to.
 
Glirk Dient said:
It's not that he didn't throw away the useless WMDs...its that you can use those to make more WMDs so he was holding on to them so he could still make them if he wanted to.
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read the article, no you cant


edit: ^Ben excellent find :thumbs:
 
Saddam should've just stocked up on Windex, Raid, and kitchen cleaners and we'd have a better excuse to invade him.
 
Glirk Dient said:
It's not that he didn't throw away the useless WMDs...its that you can use those to make more WMDs so he was holding on to them so he could still make them if he wanted to.
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Um, no they couldn't :thumbs:
 
CptStern said:
read the article, no you cant


edit: ^Ben excellent find :thumbs:
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Yeah your right. I assumed when they used the word designed they meant that they were so degraded that they could not have been made past a certain point which meant they did not create WMDs whent hey weren't supposed to.
 
Glirk Dient said:
Yeah your right. I assumed when they used the word designed they meant that they were so degraded that they could not have been made past a certain point which meant they did not create WMDs whent hey weren't supposed to.
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Funnily enough, that same misconseption is what led the US into Iraq in the first place.
 
Glirk Dient said:
Yeah your right. I assumed when they used the word designed they meant that they were so degraded that they could not have been made past a certain point which meant they did not create WMDs whent hey weren't supposed to.
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...but they didnt ..saddam couldnt ..he didnt have the resources, iraq was in shambles ..the sanctions saw to that
 
Everyone should've listened to Robert Baer in 1995 and invaded Iraq then when we had reasons.

But no. Let's not listen to an experienced CIA agent who spent half his time in the Middle East.
 
you didnt have reason to invade in 1995 either


found this interesting:

wiki said:
In 2004 he (Robert Baer) told a reporter of the British political weekly New Statesman, regarding the way the CIA deals with terrorism supects, "If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear – never to see them again – you send them to Egypt.
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"Egypt has been the most common destination" - wiki on Extraordinary Rendition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
also:

wiki said:
Baer's book See No Evil as well as Sleeping with the Devil were the basis for the 2005 Academy Award winning Warner Brothers motion picture Syriana. The film's character Bob Barnes (played by George Clooney) is loosely based on Baer. For this role Clooney won a Golden Globe Award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role and an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. To better resemble Baer, Clooney gained weight. When Baer learned of this he was inspired to get back into shape.[2] Baer has a cameo appearance in the film.
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I just saw the film the other day (havent seen the last 30 mins ..dont spoil it please)
 
CptStern said:
you didnt have reason to invade in 1995 either
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Not necessarily reasons, but we would've been justified then.

It isn't like we personally we're going to go in there. Baer wanted the Clinton administration to back an Iraqi attempt.
 
ya but that failed miserably when it was tried with the kurds and shiites in 91 ..you backed out at the last minute and they were slaughtered

"PRESIDENT GEORGE [H] BUSH: There's another way for the bloodshed to stop, and that is for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands, to force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside, and to comply with the United Nations resolutions and then rejoin the family of peace-loving nations."



"But Saddam's army stayed loyal and quickly crushed the Kurdish rebellion, killing as many as 50,000 and forcing more than a million Kurds into Turkey and Iran. In response to televised pictures of fleeing Kurdish refugees, the U.S. and its allies created a safe haven for them by declaring a so-called no-fly zone, where Iraqi planes were forbidden. A year later, a similar zone was created in the South. There the Shiite uprising against Saddam's Sunni Muslim government was put down even more quickly and brutally. An estimated 30,000 to 100,000 Shiites were killed."


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec98/hussein_11-25.html
 
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