Woman fined $1.9 Million for illegal downloads

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Posted: 07:57 PM ET

By Elianne Friend
CNN

(CNN) — A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each — a total of $1.9 million — for 24 songs.

Jammie Thomas-Rasset’s case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said.

Attorney Joe Sibley said that his client was shocked at fine, noting that the price tag on the songs she downloaded was 99 cents. She plans to appeal, he said.
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http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/18/woman-fined-1-9-million-for-illegal-downloads/

This is overkill if you ask me, and imo, she should be let free of the shackles of slavery, because in most people's lifetime, $1.9 million is more than they will even see. Just think how much money that is. I make about $25,000 a year and that would take me 80 years roughly to save up. Make her pay $200 and be done with it.

your thoughts??
 
That is overkill. She's not hurting anybody by doing that. That is just...BS.
 
A govt. would actually slowly down their downloads if the fines were within payable standards - not some outlandish figure that looks like a fairytale...
 
Warped said:
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/18/woman-fined-1-9-million-for-illegal-downloads/

This is overkill if you ask me, and imo, she should be let free of the shackles of slavery, because in most people's lifetime, $1.9 million is more than they will even see. Just think how much money that is. I make about $25,000 a year and that would take me 80 years roughly to save up. Make her pay $200 and be done with it.

your thoughts??
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off topic but....Where do you work?
 
their blog has more:
Cara Duckworth, a spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said the RIIA was "pleased that the jury agreed with the evidence and found the defendant liable."

"We appreciate the jury's service and that they take this as seriously as we do," she said.

Thomas-Rasset downloaded work by artists such as No Doubt, Linkin Park, Gloria Estefan and Sheryl Crow.

This was the second trial for Thomas-Rasset. The judge ordered a retrial in 2007 after there was an error in the wording of jury instructions.

The fines jumped considerably from the first trial, which granted just $22,000 to the recording companies.

Thomas-Rasset is married with four children and works for an Indian tribe in Minnesota.
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80K for each song.
I want you guys to think about what that could buy.

A Awesome gaming pc.
Everything on steam.
Upgrades to your house.
Cookies.

Damn, that was overcharged.
 
It's ****ing ridiculous is what it is.
 
Lol Obama. Sure just let the MAFIAA dictate everything, no need for independent data on this. Surely this is justice to pay $1,900,000 for copying the equivalent of two CD's of music to listen to.
 
The only way they could have possibly justified this was if they proved she was distributing it as well. Though I can't fathom her 24 songs were distributed enough to cost the record labels 1.9 million dollars. I assume the fine is including legal fees which could really add up, especially since this was the second trial.

Anyways, how come they never catch the huge distributors. Its always some innocent little girl, or naieve woman with a downloaded song here and there, never someone who uploads entire discographies of hundreds of bands.


That said, if she liked Linkin Park, then she deserves it. I wish I could fine this guy at work that much for blasting it while im trying to work and not listen to linkin park.
 
Canada seems closer all the time. Isn't it true that you can download any amount of music legally for personal use there?
 
The police put a tracker inside a crevice of the torrent, then the FBI, CIA, CTU, JLoA and FIB come after you. But they're nice enough to knock on your door before busting it down with their fists of JUSTICE!
 
wow, that's pretty much the end of her life right there.

****ing stupid.
 
@womanbeingsued: don't download mainstream music you ****.

EDIT: I can't believe the jury sided with the RIAA. Maybe she was selling copies, because I highly doubt the entire jury was composed of corporate tools.
 
zombieturtle01 said:
How do these people get caught exactly?
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The truth will scare you.

You are stalked by RIAA people.


Anyway, I'm glad I don't download music. I rarely listen to music. If I need to listen to a song, I just listen to it on youtube works enough for me.
 
Thomas-Rasset downloaded work by artists such as No Doubt, Linkin Park, Gloria Estefan and Sheryl Crow.
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HA HA HA HA HA JUST SEND HER TO JAIL STRAIGHT AWAY HA HA

But seriously this is bullshit, the only reason the fine is so massive is to somehow 'scare' everyone else into stopping. If I got hit with 1.9 million I'd be like 'lol okay you can have my iPod, where're you getting the rest from bitches'
 
I'd like to see the last names of the people that pushed this lawsuit....
 
Somehow Australia doesn't seem so bad right now.
 
How do they get the details from your ISP to say it's you? In Australia an ISP will not comply with any request for customer information unless it comes from the federal police as part of a criminal investigation. I know the likes of Adam/Node have told our equilavent of the RIAA to bugger off on many occasions.

For example

Our advice is that no Australian ISP can reveal your identity on the strength of an accusation -- The Telco Act and the Privacy Act give us all certain obligations.

If anyone could get someone else's identity merely by making an unproven accusation about copyright violation, then any privacy protections under Australian law would be meaningless.
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http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=129121&p=4#r80

Of course a criminal case starts and you're stuffed but that can be easily avoided.
 
unozero said:
are you seruous?
they wanna ban porn and shit there,**** that.
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and bubba in cell block 6 is more appealing?? I'll bring my porn collection to Australia and become knighted within a week. people will bow before me at the mall, and everyone will throw money at my feet
 
1. Like all RIAA defendants, she was offered the chance to settle for a few thousand. She refused and goaded the RIAA into taking her to court.
2. Once in court, she played games by lying about the circumstances behind her missing hard disk drive. She, nonetheless, continued to protest her innocence despite overwhelming evidence she wasn't.
3. She lost in court, was given a penalty that while high, was actually on the lower end of the possible outcomes. Nonetheless she could have appealed the penalty, and would probably have had a fair hearing, but decided instead to appeal the ruling that she was guilty instead on the basis of a dubious technicality which was unlikely to change the final jury verdict.
4. She's lost in court a second time. This time, she was caught being blatantly dishonest. The jury is almost certainly looking at this seeing someone try to mislead them, who's wasted their time with a pointless retrial over something she's clearly guilty of.
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Hmmm.
 
Stupid woman. (redundant lol)

So then find her guilty of the downloads and charge her with lying under oath, a separate charge. Ordering her to be a slave to the RIAA for life with garnished paychecks to the tune of 1.9 million dollars is absolutely asinine.

Downloading illegally is a civil charge, lying under oath is criminal. Civil courts need to be more regulated. This is an outrage.
 
I wish somebody would simply state their opinion when charged that they don't feel that it is criminally wrong to the degree that the bullshit law says it is.
 
O shi-

Illegal downloads is how i get all my music.

Thank god Australia is too lazy to deal with this sort of thing,
 
anyone find it ironic that robbing someone or arson is less of a fine then this....
 
australia is busy with simpsons porn lol
 
giant384 said:
anyone find it ironic that robbing someone or arson is less of a fine then this....
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You just got to remember that the lawyers of the RIAA and the music industry in general are absolutely greedy stone-age ****s who refuse to join the future or let go of even a cent of money wether its rightly deserved or not.
 
President Obama filled his entire staff with people from wall street. Every last one of them have interests in this. And the Federal Bank is not even a government bank. It's just deceptively named the 'federal' bank. These banksters financially own (by way of debt), and therefore partially control America, and even other parts of the world.
 
why not just send her to prison and take her kids away...****ing greedy douchebags.
 
The copyright laws around the world are just so ridiculously ****ed. Having to pay $10,000 USD per screening just for a student's short film to use the one song is completely and utterly ****ed. Especially considering the vast majority of short films have no chance of making any income whatsoever.
 
dabomb29 said:
80K for each song.
I want you guys to think about what that could buy.

A Awesome gaming pc.
Everything on steam.
Upgrades to your house.
Cookies.

Damn, that was overcharged.
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I so want $80k worth of cookies right now. With a tanker full of milk. Or coke. Coke would work too.
 
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