Working out?

You need to find yourself motivation.

Go get your heart broken.
 
Yeah I can vouch for that.

Also, Raz, I bet you'll be fine. PUSH THROUGH THAT SHIT! **** YOUR LEGS! TELL THOSE SHINS WHO'S BOSS! I ran till I threw up like yesterday. It was awesome. I also might need surgery for my shoulder. That won't stop me from working out though.

It's about character Raz. Your body is used to sitting still all ****ing day. Getting started is the hardest part, you will experiance pain like that, it's not serious, it's more like your body asking what the **** you are doing.

Unless it's something serious, then I guess see a doctor. But I'm like, 99% sure it's not. I'm telling you, work through it.
 
I get my excercise through karate training and doing 1 extra push up each day, so far i'm up to 45 push ups, i used to do sit ups but I ended up getting a really sore back so i need a new excercise.
 
JustachaP said:
I get my excercise through karate training and doing 1 extra push up each day, so far i'm up to 45 push ups, i used to do sit ups but I ended up getting a really sore back so i need a new excercise.
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Linear scales are for pussies. I increase my push-ups exponentially every day!
 
Rizzo said:
Yeah I can vouch for that.

Also, Raz, I bet you'll be fine. PUSH THROUGH THAT SHIT! **** YOUR LEGS! TELL THOSE SHINS WHO'S BOSS! I ran till I threw up like yesterday. It was awesome. I also might need surgery for my shoulder. That won't stop me from working out though.

It's about character Raz. Your body is used to sitting still all ****ing day. Getting started is the hardest part, you will experiance pain like that, it's not serious, it's more like your body asking what the **** you are doing.

Unless it's something serious, then I guess see a doctor. But I'm like, 99% sure it's not. I'm telling you, work through it.
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Sorry, all the research I have done tells you not to "work through the pain" when dealing with shin splints, according to medical advice. That, at best, the pain won't lessen, and at worse... it'll develop into something much worse. It mentions shin splints progressing into fractures which is significantly worse.

That's the worst advice.
 
Maybe you could try a low impact machine like an eliptical? Should help gradually restrengthen your shin muscles. Or simply continue walking but if the pain gets to be too much just stop. I have to walk 1 mile to classes now and the first day was the most grueling since I'm not much for cardio. But it's fairly easy now.
 
DEATHMASTER said:
Maybe you could try a low impact machine like an eliptical? Should help gradually restrengthen your shin muscles. Or simply continue walking but if the pain gets to be too much just stop. I have to walk 1 mile to classes now and the first day was the most grueling since I'm not much for cardio. But it's fairly easy now.
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Yeah. I'm just going to keep at the walking until it eventually gets better. When it starts hurting, I'll turn my way back home and then eventually I hope I'll just be able to progress my distances more and more and more.

It's not a fatigue thing, it's just a... holy shit my muscles feel like they're being ripped from my bones. I love the feeling of lactic acid in my muscles, feeling like an old man barely able to move my body the day after a strenuous workout, because it feels like progress, but this is nothing like that.
 
I still don't think it's shin splints though. Long time pasive just starting moving around you will feel pain. Your body just isn't used to it.
 
Rizzo said:
I still don't think it's shin splints though. Long time pasive just starting moving around you will feel pain. Your body just isn't used to it.
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What you just described is one of the scenarios for the onset of shin splints. Sedentary to active, with another scenario being people especially rough while jumping or running. And everything out there pretty much, with exception to foolish advice, is that you do not want to "work through the pain" with shin splints, because it will cause further damage.

So as I mentioned, what I'm going to do is just take it slow. Do a little bit each day... turning back when I start to feel the pain so I'm not walking for extended lengths with that very unusual severe pain. With time I'm hoping to build it back up.

I think I also overpronate which is a cause of it. Precisely the reason I bought these damn shoes back in 2007.

I'm not trying to blow off your advice just like that Rizzo, it's just that it goes completely contrary to everything I have read about it. It's bad medical advice to work through the pain of many physical conditions.
 
I get shin splints now and again as well, and was actually a bit worried when I first felt it. I take it what you're experiencing is a burning sensation either side of your shins, and your muscles feel tight, and it can be painful to twist or move them? If so, Ive had it too.

Whats strange is that sometimes I will get it, other times I wont. It seems to come and go. I had a period of time where it never happened, then suddenly it would come back again. Each time I just tried to fight through it and keep moving. Havent had any long-term damage yet. Footwear seems to have an effect too. I noticed I dont get it was much wearing flipflops as I do wearing shoes, which is weird, would have figured it was the other way round.

I helped a friend move house yesterday, he had alot of ***t. Alot of HEAVY ***t.

He was only moving down the road about 100 metres, but carrying wardrobes and beds etc was heavier and harder than we thought. It was pretty much a 9am-4pm workout. I feel like hell today, my calves are sore, my back is a bit achy and my arms feel like dead-weights, but it felt REALLY good in the evening. A little accomplishment, a small victory.

But I was amazed at how much more I could take than usual, and all Ive been doing is a combination of horizontal and diagonal push-ups, as well as curls for the past 2 months, 3 times a week, going to the point of muscle fatigue each time where I literally cant do any more.

I was carrying a chest of draws by myself at one point, big enough to warrant two people carrying it, and it was just really awkward to carry and to keep the draws from falling out. About 20 metres from the house I could feel the fatigue set in and felt like I was going to stop and rest my arms or drop it or something, but I gritted my teeth, and vented my anger out through my mouth. I was amazed at how saying something out loud to motivate yourself, along the lines of ''Come on!'', can keep you moving.

Its all in the head I guess.
 
toaster leigh said:
Maybe try doing some simple dance warm-up exercises, like releves 'n shit. You don't need to worry about turning too far out at the hips or anything, and only do as many as you're comfortable with. Releves in particular are easy to do just while standing around, and you can set a goal for a number to do each day. Stretching is a good idea as well; I'd recommend doing yr typical head to knee stretch (again, don't worry about doing it perfectly, just as far as you're comfortable). You can combine that with the ankle stretch from the first link, which should work your shins a bit. Yoga is a great low-intensity workout that doesn't require any equipment as well, but you have to be able to handle the blatant fact that doing yoga makes you a ****ing girl and you'll look absolutely ****ing ridiculous. It's just somewhere to start off, anyway, until you can get your body used to walking again.
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I don't believe in that Yoga makes you a girl stuff. I don't know a whole lot about yoga however.


What I do know though, is that Pilates is ****ing brutal and a great way to get in shape.

Thanks for the suggestions toaster.


Dynasty said:
I get shin splints now and again as well, and was actually a bit worried when I first felt it. I take it what you're experiencing is a burning sensation either side of your shins, and your muscles feel tight, and it can be painful to twist or move them? If so, Ive had it too.

Whats strange is that sometimes I will get it, other times I wont. It seems to come and go. I had a period of time where it never happened, then suddenly it would come back again. Each time I just tried to fight through it and keep moving. Havent had any long-term damage yet. Footwear seems to have an effect too. I noticed I dont get it was much wearing flipflops as I do wearing shoes, which is weird, would have figured it was the other way round.

I helped a friend move house yesterday, he had alot of ***t. Alot of HEAVY ***t.

He was only moving down the road about 100 metres, but carrying wardrobes and beds etc was heavier and harder than we thought. It was pretty much a 9am-4pm workout. I feel like hell today, my calves are sore, my back is a bit achy and my arms feel like dead-weights, but it felt REALLY good in the evening. A little accomplishment, a small victory.

But I was amazed at how much more I could take than usual, and all Ive been doing is a combination of horizontal and diagonal push-ups, as well as curls for the past 2 months, 3 times a week, going to the point of muscle fatigue each time where I literally cant do any more.

I was carrying a chest of draws by myself at one point, big enough to warrant two people carrying it, and it was just really awkward to carry and to keep the draws from falling out. About 20 metres from the house I could feel the fatigue set in and felt like I was going to stop and rest my arms or drop it or something, but I gritted my teeth, and vented my anger out through my mouth. I was amazed at how saying something out loud to motivate yourself, along the lines of ''Come on!'', can keep you moving.

Its all in the head I guess.
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I can't simply describe it as a burning sensation. It's more like it feels somebody is using a blow torch and crowbar at the same time on my shins, trying to pry the muscle from my bones and scorching it. It's not a regular muscle burn feeling.

Seems weird to me too that flipflops would better prevent you from getting it. I always read shoes with proper arch support(which flip flops really won't have) are the best way to go to help against overpronation and thus shin splints.

And yeah, as I mentioned before, after you have a long workout and feel the effects the next couple days, it feels fantastic. Many people regret the exercise after they feel like they can't move due to the somewhat debilitating effects of the lactic acid and general muscle fatigue, but for me it feels wonderful.

"I can barely move! **** yeah!"
 
Well I come back from a weekend of marshalling pro paintball and I pass out on my bed, but I always have a long, hot bath minutes after getting home. Just fill up the bath, strip off the gear and jump in, holding my nuts above my head.

It definitely makes a difference with the whole muscle pains the next day. I still feel stiff and dehydrated etc, but a hot bath certainly helps.

Ice baths are supposed to help after a workout. But ***k that.
 
Dynasty said:
Well I come back from a weekend of marshalling pro paintball and I pass out on my bed, but I always have a long, hot bath minutes after getting home. Just fill up the bath, strip off the gear and jump in, holding my nuts above my head.

It definitely makes a difference with the whole muscle pains the next day. I still feel stiff and dehydrated etc, but a hot bath certainly helps.

Ice baths are supposed to help after a workout. But ***k that.
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Man there is NOTHING better than an ice bath after a big workout. We had a cold water whirlpool for after football practice in college. It pretty much was the only way you can make it through 2 a day practices. The cold stops muscle breakdown and prevents inflammation so you're nowhere near as sore. Plus it basically numbs the soreness you'd generally get immediately post practice. Some guys would go all the way in, but I just did my lower half since that's what football works the most.
 
Yeah you're probably right Raz. I have pretty much ****ed up both my shoulders listening to my own advice. Do what feels right man.
 
I'm just going to bump this.

A few weeks back I decided to get a gym membership and I've been going since then. Just recently cemented myself a routine that I'm going to be doing and involves me going 6 times a week, but that's not really too problematic.

One of the things I did just last night, was switching from steady state cardio which was okay, to High Intensity Interval Training which absolutely kicked my ass on the stationary bike that I was doing it on. If anything whips my fat ass into shape, it's going to be this HIIT.

My only problem is that I have difficulty breathing. Ever since that paper route job I had, and since joining the girl scouts, I have difficulty breathing. I made a thread about it before but this is just onset a whole lot more frequently. Every day, all day at work... never feels like I'm getting enough oxygen or am able to get the deep breaths I need. Not sure if it's asthma or what, or if it was induced by that newspaper job with all those freshly printed ink fumes in the vehicle while I was driving around. I'd be ****ing pissed if that were the case, since I made less than minimum wage at that job.

But, I've been hoping that continuing with the gym weight training and particularly the cardio, I'll improve my heart health and lung capacity and resolve this breathing problem. It's just difficult as **** when I'm doing the HIIT training.
 
Raziaar said:
My only problem is that I have difficulty breathing. Ever since that paper route job I had, and since joining the girl scouts, I have difficulty breathing. I made a thread about it before but this is just onset a whole lot more frequently. Every day, all day at work... never feels like I'm getting enough oxygen or am able to get the deep breaths I need. Not sure if it's asthma or what, or if it was induced by that newspaper job with all those freshly printed ink fumes in the vehicle while I was driving around.
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The next time you have trouble breathing, squeeze your nose and see if it is sensitive. If it hurts or 'burns', I think that means there is an inflammation, which can be caused by any number of things; commonly an allergy.
 
VirusType2 said:
The next time you have trouble breathing, squeeze your nose and see if it is sensitive. If it hurts or 'burns', I think that means there is an inflammation, which can be caused by any number of things; commonly an allergy.
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I'll try that, thanks... but I don't really think it's an allergy or anything like that. This has been going on when I'm in the office at my desk ever since I joined. Everything I read seemed to indicate it's stress related, but I don't feel stressed at work anymore.

On a positive note, when I first went in to exercise at the gym on the stationary bike my heart rate was alarmingly high. I think it was measured at like 185 or so at its maximum. But the more and more I go, the lower my heart rate gets which is a great thing. I've been worried about heart disease for a long time, and hopefully this will help prevent it.
 
While interval training will increase your athletic performance, I seriously doubt you will burn more fat than an hour+ of sub threshold aerobic work. Every weight loss plan I have seen focuses on low intensity long duration, and every athletic performance training plan I have seen begins with several months of base work before ramping up into interval training for a performance spike near competition season. Some of them will incorporate both interval work and base work at the same time, but none of them start off with a focus on interval work.
 
Raziaar said:
I'm just going to bump this.

A few weeks back I decided to get a gym membership and I've been going since then. Just recently cemented myself a routine that I'm going to be doing and involves me going 6 times a week, but that's not really too problematic.

One of the things I did just last night, was switching from steady state cardio which was okay, to High Intensity Interval Training which absolutely kicked my ass on the stationary bike that I was doing it on. If anything whips my fat ass into shape, it's going to be this HIIT.

My only problem is that I have difficulty breathing. Ever since that paper route job I had, and since joining the girl scouts, I have difficulty breathing. I made a thread about it before but this is just onset a whole lot more frequently. Every day, all day at work... never feels like I'm getting enough oxygen or am able to get the deep breaths I need. Not sure if it's asthma or what, or if it was induced by that newspaper job with all those freshly printed ink fumes in the vehicle while I was driving around. I'd be ****ing pissed if that were the case, since I made less than minimum wage at that job.

But, I've been hoping that continuing with the gym weight training and particularly the cardio, I'll improve my heart health and lung capacity and resolve this breathing problem. It's just difficult as **** when I'm doing the HIIT training.
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Prior to me saying anything constructive: Girl Scouts? Is that serious or facetious?

You don't have to restrict yourself to cardio for losing weight. Low-intensity as Dan said is best. Anaerobic activities like weight-lifting can go a long way towards burning calories because a lot of muscle energy has to be used, particularly if you use light weights and lift until failure. Doing a workout that takes lots of energy is the biggest thing: more calories used than are eaten. Eventually you will lose weight. Longer workouts (45+) also trigger a release of cortisol into your bloodstream which helps burn fat.
 
Raz, do you by any chance have a lot of tension in your upper abdomen and chest? My anxiety causes me to... it's hard to explain, but basically my upper abs and ribcage end up kind of pinched together from muscular tension. It makes me hunch over at my computer desk, and it gets in the way of my breathing by limiting the airflow speed and my functional lung capacity. You could call it my body's "muscular focal point". If I instead make my focal point the middle of my back, then my posture becomes normal, and my breathing (and upper body movement) loose and open.
 
I do minimal exercise in the morning for 15 mins before showering. **** the gym.
Works for me, as I I'm naturally skinny and toned (probably due to my tense posture lol). CHECK ME OUT BITCHESSS
 
Dan said:
While interval training will increase your athletic performance, I seriously doubt you will burn more fat than an hour+ of sub threshold aerobic work. Every weight loss plan I have seen focuses on low intensity long duration, and every athletic performance training plan I have seen begins with several months of base work before ramping up into interval training for a performance spike near competition season. Some of them will incorporate both interval work and base work at the same time, but none of them start off with a focus on interval work.
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Hmm. Well, I know my 10 minute initial interval training(5 warm up, 10 minute HIIT, 5 minute cool down) isn't going to burn as many calories as an hour of steady state cardio, but I'm just starting it. Everything I've read said that HIIT doesn't burn more calories during the exercise as steady state, necessarily... but it burns way more calories in the long haul because it forces your body to consume elevated amounts of oxygen for more than 24 hours after the workout.

I've read lots of articles and studies before actually trying the interval training. Before that I was doing steady state cardio... which honestly was much more boring and while doing it on the stationary bike at the gym I was limited in my time by how much ass hurts. Those seats are uncomfortable for everybody they say :|

Maestro said:
Prior to me saying anything constructive: Girl Scouts? Is that serious or facetious?

You don't have to restrict yourself to cardio for losing weight. Low-intensity as Dan said is best. Anaerobic activities like weight-lifting can go a long way towards burning calories because a lot of muscle energy has to be used, particularly if you use light weights and lift until failure. Doing a workout that takes lots of energy is the biggest thing: more calories used than are eaten. Eventually you will lose weight. Longer workouts (45+) also trigger a release of cortisol into your bloodstream which helps burn fat.
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Uhh, no, it's serious. Not only women work with the girl scouts. But anyway. I'm doing both weight lifting and cardio. I've always loved weight lifting so I don't put it by the wayside.

Stigmata said:
Raz, do you by any chance have a lot of tension in your upper abdomen and chest? My anxiety causes me to... it's hard to explain, but basically my upper abs and ribcage end up kind of pinched together from muscular tension. It makes me hunch over at my computer desk, and it gets in the way of my breathing by limiting the airflow speed and my functional lung capacity. You could call it my body's "muscular focal point". If I instead make my focal point the middle of my back, then my posture becomes normal, and my breathing (and upper body movement) loose and open.
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No I don't feel anything like that, which is always why I was confused by the breathing problems. I don't feel stressed out while at work... though all the typing I do I find it kind of hard to breathe normally... I have somewhat more shallow breaths, but that's all subconsciously done.
 
Very odd indeed. When you're taking shallow breaths like that, are your lungs mostly full or mostly empty?
 
Stigmata said:
Very odd indeed. When you're taking shallow breaths like that, are your lungs mostly full or mostly empty?
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How would I tell? When I breath out normally, I can of course still exhale quite a bit. Same when I inhale, I can still inhale quite a bit.

Been trying all sorts of breathing exercises to help me out. I'm a bit confused on the proper way to breathe. I've read so many things that say breathe with your chest without your abdomen pushing out much, and others saying to breathe with your stomach so that your abdomen pushes out.
 
I'll admit, I found it a bit surprising - even amusing. What kind of work I wondered. But I think it's cute or whatever. Big bear Raz, handing out the boxes of cookies to the little girls.
 
Fuuuuck. I'm worn out. On mondays I have my little routine set up to do upper body and my high intensity interval training... not ideal since I don't want to do two of the things on the same day. My brother wanted a day off though, so I picked sunday. But I feel ****ing destroyed, exhausted wise, not pain. Strength first, then the cardio.

Again with the breathing problems, but I'm coping with it.

Can't wait until my protein powder gets here. Tired of having to have a high protein meal made pre and post workout. I usually just make a batch of my lentil and brown rice soup... tasty and high protein... but being able to have the protein shake instead and maybe get some more protein in the process will be nice.
 
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