Wtf? Did I just get caught?

Well, in that case, your mom is probably smoking pot herself, and is in a limbo on whether she should join you sometimes.

:D
 
I'm high right now and this thread is confusing as hell. She doesn't care but you did lose your pipe- sucks to be you just order another and have it arrive at a friends.

If your mom is that lax about it, I'm sorry for you, its no wonder you're ordering pipes.
lol okay and those damn girls showing their ankles too huh
 
K, so my mom tells me "i'll give you the decision. You can either pick up the package, check them out for a half hour or something, then I take them and you never see them again. You pay"

"Or, save your money, and just let them sit in the post office".

She still thinks I don't smoke btw. Or rather, I haven't outright said "I do" or "I don't" smoke yet.

Ok, so my options are, to go and pick up the package, sneak the one pipe I actually want under the foam packing, and then when she isn't too caught up in what i'm doing, slip it over the edge of the package, and hide it temporarily until I have a more opportune moment to run it up to my room. She says she won't just hold them till i'm 18, because while she won't blatantly disregard or object to my toking, she won't actively promote it.

..To tell her "nah, just leave it", then go down to the post office the day before they plan to send it back to art-pipes.com (they give 15 days to pick it up), and grab it myself, and hope she doesn't call in asking them what happened to the package.

Or, to just leave it there and either get a glass piece later on down the road, or just settle with aluminum for now.

If i do the first two, then i'm being dishonest and just generally bad, but then I get what I want and won't have to smoke out of aluminum and plastic anymore.

If I do the last one, then I accept my mothers decision on smoking (not necessarily a bad thing), don't get what I want (not necessarily a bad thing), and I end up continuing to smoke out of bits of pens, brass, copper, and plastic waterbottles (a very bad thing). Or apples...

D: D: D:???
 
On a moralistic point of view, I'd say don't do all choices. :p

On a realistic-pleasure point of view, I'd say to get teh damn thing and hope for the best. :P

On a realistic-monetary point of view, I'd say to continue smoking through pieces of metal. I mean to say, the pipe's not goinging to increase your, uh, pleasure that comes from smoking, right? :)
 
On a moralistic point of view, I'd say don't do all choices. :p

On a realistic-pleasure point of view, I'd say to get teh damn thing and hope for the best. :P

On a realistic-monetary point of view, I'd say to continue smoking through pieces of metal. I mean to say, the pipe's not goinging to increase your, uh, pleasure that comes from smoking, right? :)

It will.

Better taste, and Aluminum or Brass or Copper or Steel + flame = bad fumes.

I COULD just stick with apples though...
 
Oh yeah, metal does oxidize...... Darn.


Plastic would be worse then...

Can't you just sneak a glass straw/sucker from your science lab or something? :p
 
Oh yeah, metal does oxidize...... Darn.


Plastic would be worse then...

Can't you just sneak a glass straw/sucker from your science lab or something? :p

I almost tried that once.

But then I realized that all of my teachers glass pieces are behind locked doors, and the only ones I could actually get to, I had to pay money to access...

Besides, that's dumb. Stealing school supplies is both hurts yourself and everybody, i'd prefer if it was only one of the two.
 
Yes, yes. Of course.


I'm sorry that I can't be of much help.
 
Id say, save your money... FOR GARRYS MOD 10!!!!!!
 
QUICK! CALL THE AUTHORITIES! NUMBERS IS PROMOTING DRUG USE!

-Angry Lawyer
 
911, Hello is this the police? What? No? Ok bye. THE PIZZAs ON THE WAY!
 
sinkoman, never smoke off of plastic or anything. if you have to ghetto rig it, use an apple or tinfoil. the rumors about aluminum foil causing alzheimer's are for the most part unsubstantiated. general home-used tinfoil is 99.9% pure and butane won't melt it, so you won't be inhaling harmful aluminum. it's still not something i'd recommend relying on but it's a good ghetto solution, even if it feels like ass on the lungs and tastes shitty too.
 
negligible, which is why it should be used only when you have no alternative. an apples a lot better, even if it gets gross after a little while
 
yeah but joints waste plant material
 
you can carve a small bowl to hold whatever plant you may be burning (legal of course) on top of the apple, and then with a pen or similar hollow out a tube going down, and then another one going in from the side that intersects it, so you have a place to suck (ehehe) and a place to burn the plant. You can also carve a third intersecting tunnel, as a carb.

It's tasty and nice the first few hits but after that it gets gross
 
sinkoman, never smoke off of plastic or anything. if you have to ghetto rig it, use an apple or tinfoil. the rumors about aluminum foil causing alzheimer's are for the most part unsubstantiated. general home-used tinfoil is 99.9% pure and butane won't melt it, so you won't be inhaling harmful aluminum. it's still not something i'd recommend relying on but it's a good ghetto solution, even if it feels like ass on the lungs and tastes shitty too.

I don't smoke OFF of plastic, but rather use a plastic bottle with an alluminum or brass bowl, or some setup similiar to that.

God damnt though, this is so hard.

So she let me pick up the package today (my request), I got the whole day to look them over (while she watched and checked to be sure they were all there), and then just 10 minutes ago she made me throw them away, and I WAS planning on going back and taking the one piece I wanted out of the trash, but here's the kicker...

She pulled the whole "I'm very proud of you for doing this" deal...

I know I shouldn't be so immature as to feel no remorse till being told this. Damnt, this has made the decision harder.

My thoughts are both: "NO! I can't do that. I can't take the pipe and betray my moms trust, just to fulfill some immature 'want'"

But, i'm also dead set on getting a glass piece sometime soon, so my other thought is...

"But, no matter what, once I get a glass piece, I will still be betraying that trust she puts in me, no more or no less than if I were to take the pipe out of the trash."

Oh man, i'm so confused right now

I mean, it's just as hard to let all that effort and money sit in the trash like that, as it is to go and snag one out of the trash.

But I suppose that if I do take one, then the emotional weight, if not heavier than that of letting the pipe go, will be ongoing. I wonder, if I were to take the pipe, if I would always think of that one moment where my mom put all her trust on me, to believe that I would not take back something I was told to leave, and have to deal with the thought.

I sometimes wonder if i'm too immature a person to indulge in marijuana ...
 
That's just ****ing brilliant.

They stopped making the one that I wanted the most...
 
Dunno why, just felt this needed a new post instead of an edit...

So I ended up just outright telling her "I smoke infrequently" (not because I wanted her acceptance and for her to condone it, but because lying, especially to my mom, makes me feel like shit), and she told me (no yelling or angryvoice btw) that "it needs to stop", and then I explained to her how I got started, that I don't just toke it up at random beaches and parks, or allow myself into situations where high people end up driving me home, and that i've on many occasions refused, and have no trouble doing so.

So then she said "i'm sure you're responsible, and I know you can do the right thing, but I need to just state my oppinion, and that's that it needs to stop".

Then she gave me this whole "if you're ever so out of your mind that you can't walk or drive home, just call me and i'll find you a ride, I won't be pissed" thing.

So yeah. Still not sure if imma take that pipe, but I feel now that if I do, it wouldn't be out of blind immaturity.
 
Your mother is very, superlatively (can this word apply?), benevolent. D:
 
How old are you again? That's probably the main issue as she sees it (gathered you weren't 18... not that it makes a difference in the eyes of the law).
 
sinkoman, never smoke off of plastic or anything. if you have to ghetto rig it, use an apple or tinfoil. the rumors about aluminum foil causing alzheimer's are for the most part unsubstantiated. general home-used tinfoil is 99.9% pure and butane won't melt it, so you won't be inhaling harmful aluminum. it's still not something i'd recommend relying on but it's a good ghetto solution, even if it feels like ass on the lungs and tastes shitty too.

Heating metal still releases toxins which you inhale, regardless of their melting point. I would recommend a glass pipe/papers. I would avoid using foil all together, especially since glass/papers are so easy to come by.
 
Heh. I actually have no idea what my parents would do. They smoked when they were younger, and they were very cool when they found out I drank, but... I dunno. I guess what I'm saying is that I've made it this far without them so much as suspecting it, and I'd like to keep it that way.
 
The craziest thing is that after getting caught, being told to stop, and realizing you feel like shit because you lie to your mother... you havent even had the slightest thought of actually quitting...

Your priorities are all messed up man.
 
The craziest thing is that after getting caught, being told to stop, and realizing you feel like shit because you lie to your mother... you havent even had the slightest thought of actually quitting...

Your priorities are all messed up man.

Why would I quit doing something that not only brings me pleasure/i'm very interested in, but doesn't actively harm me?

The whole "feel like shit" thing was in relation to the pipes, and lying in general. With those two situations, it was my actually doing something immoral (lying and stealing) that was eating at me.

Marijuana isn't immoral, why should I feel bad about continuing to use it?
 
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