yes or no, source code real?

Is the source code fake

  • YES

    Votes: 49 53.3%
  • NO

    Votes: 43 46.7%
  • Note to all : The results of this poll are flawed

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • due to the question mixup - D33.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    92
hmmm...

Can someone post the HL1 version of this file? some guy further up said you could replace stuff, lets compare :D
 
Originally posted by G0rgon
Where can I download the dam source.

Why would you want it?

Personally I just want to see a few files from it to draw my own conclusion.
 
I want to study the codes.

tork thanks, but Do I need to download the program bittorrent>
 
Bah I wish someone would send me the torrent. I could try to compile it. I got a lot of source codes to compile even though their build files were broken.
 
I'm pretty damn sure that people have already tried..
 
The source code is real, and it does compile. You have to have at least SP4+ and the processor pack though. If not, you'll get compiler errors.
 
...and it compiles into Counter Strike, right?
 
Originally posted by Krusty
Damn me too - :cheese:

To be honest who really cares about the source code? It's useless without all the models, textures n that....I don't care how fecking L337 you think you are!

It will matter further on down the line but then it'll be released for MOD writers as an SDK with loads of other meaty goodness.

Maybe it's not obvious to you but if the leak is confirmed to be real, valve is in big trouble... even if this leaked source code is over a year old and does not contain any maps, sound files, models, textures or music (as it seems it doesn't contain those).

The problem is not that somebody could combile the whole source (would be a very time consuming process to get the combiler set up correctly) but now people have an insight on how the the source engine including the network code works. People will start writing exploits, aimbots, hacks, whatever even before anyone sees the finished game.

Online MP will be infested by cheaters and the situation will be even worse than it is currently with CS.
 
Just a thought... the code might tell us finally what MP surprise they got.
 
I still havent heard\seen anything that would make me beleave its the real source code beyond a doubt.
 
If real then they could be in even more big trouble... The code clearly contains old HL1 code (which makes me suspicious of its real-ness I might add) which I doubt they have licensed from ID ("we made it from scratch" etc.)

Just some thoughts.
 
I've got the file and look around a bit.

I can confirm that this is source code property of valve software and that it contains data concerning HL1, HL2, CS, TF1, TF2, Steam and several other components.

Allthough I still cannot say for sure how much actual source code of HL2 is contained (considering also the fact that this file only contains part of the source code as indicated by the filename) this is not good sign for valve.

Well, let's say that valve is in deep s**t!
 
How the hell does this BitTorrent work? I have been a software developer for over 10 years I want to check this out for my self.
 
Looks like HL, TFC, UT, UT2003, QUAKE, and all those games mixed, really lame
 
I am not a programmer, and I looked at the folder too, its 160 MB and 7670 files.

If it is a hoax, the guy has to much time.

If it's the real thing, damn it sucks to be valve.
 
This is pathetic. Firstly you believe all this BS, which I will laugh at you for when you all realise it's not the HL2 source. Secodnly, you all believe that valves proprietery, secret source was released and all you're concerned about is aimbots? What about valves right to protect its intellectual property. if this were real (which it isnt) i would be far more concerned about people stealing valves excellent ideas and outstanding coding. But i suppose those with closed minds have better things to think about.

edited for the sake of other posters, although i maintain that you're all very gullible.
 
Oh, and btw - it's not exactly difficul to get a bunch of random files from various released codes, rename a few files, chuck in some familiar buzz words, and wah-lah you have a nice lil hoax that a whole bunch of ppl are gonna believe.
 
Dr-X:
How about this. Before you continue to boost your ego and your lack of respect, try posting constructively instead of looking like an ass and acting like you know what the **** is going on. I say this because apparently you don't. Now, go back into your little cave and SHUT THE **** UP!

Obviously, we are trying to figure out if it's real or not. Some of us are speculating, others are reading, and a few are checking it out for us. FFS, be constructive.

:)
 
Originally posted by Dr-X
you guys are pathetic. Firstly you believe all this BS, which I will laugh at you for when you all realise it's not the HL2 source. Secodnly, you all believe that valves proprietery, secret source was released and all you're concerned about is aimbots? What about valves right to protect its intellectual property. if this were real (which it isnt) i would be far more concerned about people stealing valves excellent ideas and outstanding coding. But i suppose you closed minded idiots have better things to think about.

I dont think that attitude works with people in real world. So I dont think it works here either
 
I like azzor's advice better.. relaxing is good. *relaxes*
 
Well it's not a bunch of random files and buzzwords. Or just Quake2 replaced by halflife2. It is very very specific..
 
Is it Gabe, possibly... u sound a bit P.O.

U shouldnt have left it on the bus seat on ur way to work :cheese:
 
It's weird, it's big, it's Valve's, and it warrants speculation.
 
I converted all files related to the build_common process to VS2003 (since I dont have VS6) and am compiling them atm. Seems to work OK. As I write this, the batch file is creating 1408 shaders with a tool it compiled just before this step.
 
I just went through the code at a mates house (for real.. I didn't download it or anything) and it's real alright. Though I'm not sure how old or complete it is. There were references to normal maps in the materialsystem folder and loads of stuff that obviously had no place in HL or Qx source code. Also, perhaps most convincing, what looks like complete audio processing routines for voice analyzing. Valve aren't going to be pleased.. there's loads of stuff developers could steal from this shit.
 
f*** i've been coding for a while now and i'm quite curious myself i want to loook into this. How does this Bittorrent thing work?
 
Originally posted by Dr-X
you guys are pathetic. Firstly you believe all this BS, which I will laugh at you for when you all realise it's not the HL2 source. Secodnly, you all believe that valves proprietery, secret source was released and all you're concerned about is aimbots? What about valves right to protect its intellectual property. if this were real (which it isnt) i would be far more concerned about people stealing valves excellent ideas and outstanding coding. But i suppose you closed minded idiots have better things to think about.

As I said, one still has confirm how much of this code is actually HL2 code. This is no secret source code nor is it the latest build of HL2 but that doesn't matter since this won't leak will worry valve for sure.

If this package really contains part of the HL2 netcode, than yes, HL2 will be unplayable online.

Anyway, you're completely right about the intellectual property but it's valve business to protect its intellectual property, not ours. And yes, many will incorporate parts of this source code in other projects. Too bad... for valve

BTW, why was valve that anxious about quickly deleting threads about the source code from the steam forums? If it is completely fake, why bother?
 
I do agree with the good Doc's bit about privacy of Valve's intellectual property.
 
if it is legit, it's almost definately just a leaked SDK, as i said way back hours ago. If it is, oh well, no harm done.

What im getting most frustrated at is people jumping to rediculous conclusions like the game wont come out till next year, it will be suspened, heads will roll, the world will halt, we'll all die etc.

edit: spelling
 
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