Your beliefs on marrage.

[gick]

I think it's pretty obvious who is supposed to marry who, i mean the guys got the babymaker and the girls got the egg...

So what is the purpose of marriage? Is it some sort of contract to allow you to make babies, or is it an expression of love between two people?

I don't understand how anyone can justify same-sex marrages, its just wrong and immoral.

Why is it wrong and immoral? Give me one, one, logical, secular reason why it is wrong. I'd like to see you try.

Gays should not be allowed to be married, this sort of thing is much different than say, womens rights, black rights, this has been intollerable since the beggining of time.

Why should they not be allowed to be married? How does two guys getting married effect you in any way? What right have you got to govern their lives? It has not been intolerable since the beginning of time. I suggest you actually pull your head out of your own backside, and learn some history on the subject. In some of the most respected and influential aincent cultures homosexuality was regarded as normal, even desirable. Look it up. And besides, even if it was regarded as intolerable 'since the beginning of time', how does that prove anything? Throughout most of history, women have been considered 'inferior', but that didnt make it true did it?

Anyways it appears that Gays are constantly trying to push their rights to the limits, why can't they just settle with being able to have a relationship without being shot?:flame:

Because they are perfectly entitled to 'push their rights to the limits'. Again, I'd like to hear one good reason why they shouldn't.

Kind of off topic but does anyone actually know for sure what makes gay people gay? But am i mostly correct by saying something is mentally wrong with them?

There is absolutely no reason to suggest that is the case.

So, well done for proving yourself to be a bigoted, illogical, hate filled ignoramus!:thumbs:

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I have offered, in the past, 500 dollars for a single logical reason for banning homosexual marriage.

No-one has yet claimed the prize, despite the contest having never closed.

The only real rule is to not use any fallacious logic.

 

[brink's]

I have offered, in the past, 500 dollars for a single logical reason for banning homosexual marriage.

No-one has yet claimed the prize, despite the contest having never closed.

The only real rule is to not use any fallacious logic.

Cause two penises are gross, ill PM you my mailing address.

 

[Shasta]

Kids on an internet forum arguing about marriage (after it got spelled correctly) is like a blond explaining the laws of physics. You KNOW she has no idea what she is on about, (even though she sees it in action every day), yet you can't help but listen, just to find out exactly how little she knows.

 

[el Chi]

*Raises hand*
I'm blonde and I find that offensive. I know all about the laws of physicals, and I have every idea what I'm on about. I'll have you know I know big, not little so I would appreshiate if you had a big more consideration next time you make a dumfounded claim like that.

 

[Dario D.]

Edit: After some discussion, some seem to think that "swept under the rug" means the same as "kill" [faints]. I'm referring to TV, and public displays... I'm not talking about the people. My entire post is referring to the issue itself, not the people. I was saying, "Sweeping the public display under the rug is good way to help it fade, etc, etc..." My view on the matter is mild and suggetive (not the way you interpret it). You should be able to say, "Oh, okay... well that's comforting," because that's that's the way it is. A mis-interpreted point that sounds extreme, and is not. It took me a while to understand what was going on with all these negative replies, but now I got it... and it shouldn't be that way.

What I *REALLY* can't stand, and what should be simple flat-out illegal, is the "showing" of homosexuality in public, in any shape or form whatsoever.

Why? Homosexuality spreads by people seeing it - just look at the children of homosexual couples, who in turn become homosexual, and the rising count of lesbians due to porn. Homosexuality is an unnatural psychological disease - no offense intended, but being realistic, if aliens from outer space saw it, they'd label homosexuality as a disease in the human species. ...the larger it gets, the larger it gets. If only one person in the world were homosexual, you wouldnt see it grow like it does now. If there weren't a single homosexual in the world, fifty years from now it still wouldn't have amounted to anything at all. But, if it continues like this, just with the slow decay of time, and as people get used to it, it WILL one day be as big as anything else, guaranteed.

And it spreads simply by people seeing it and getting used to it - a culture thing. Consider that the samurai were bisexual, and no, they werent born that way... and so, as an act of preservation of order and balance in our species, it really should be outlawed from being allowed to ever be seen in public, in any way. This concerns me a LOT. ESPECIALLY on TV and movies. You just can't show people that, and let them get used to a psychologically contagious disease that spreads through the eyes.

I have nothing against homosexuals, who are still very much people, who I see as deserving life to be same as anyone else. What I don't like is the corruption of the human race's natural order, and seeing people try to accept it. If a mental illness (one that makes you think you're a dolphin) suddenly began spreading by people imagining themselves as dolphins, from seeing others doing it, you would need to stop it to preserve the species. Same thing.

Just as the news and newspapers can't talk about suicide, because it gives people ideas, so they shouldn't be able to talk about anything to do with homosexuality, because they bring the world closer and closer to homosexuality. It's like gaining experience points in an RPG. The world is slowly given this steady trickle of Homo-Accepting-Experience points, and pretty soon the culture will Level-Up.

Consider this: Would it surprise you if an alien came to you and said, "Your planet has some serious problems. You need to stop homosexuality in your species."

If that sounds natural, it's because it is. The idea behind aliens is that they're supposed to be perfectly reasonable, and see through problems right to the bottom, without an ouce of clout, which is why I like to use them as thought-provokers when politics and thick-headedness - layers upon layers of ideas - get in the way of thinking clearly.

Homosexuality needs to be swept under the rug and hidden, so that when this generation of homosexuals passes on, that's the end of this charade in human evolution. It would would also help to disallow gays to raise children, for obvious reasons. It may sound harsh to not allow adoption, but think of the poor child who is forcibly stripped of his natural order.

 

[Steve]

just look at the children of homosexual couples

Umm...there aren't any.

Anyway, you're saying that me seeing Brokeback Mountain will make me want to do Heath Ledger? I'd have to say you're wrong.

 

[Warbie]

So, well done for proving yourself to be a bigoted, illogical, hate filled ignoramus!:thumbs:

Thanks for saving me the trouble of writing a very similar post.

 

[ríomhaire]

Why? Homosexuality spreads by people seeing it - just look at the children of homosexual couples, who in turn become homosexual,

Evidence

and the rising count of lesbians due to porn.

No, just the rising count of porn and the rising count of lesbians 'comimg out'

Homosexuality is an unnatural psychological disease - no offense intended, but being realistic, if aliens from outer space saw it, they'd label homosexuality as a disease in the human species.

You have no idea what an alien species would think, they might be bafeled at the thought of 2 seperate sexes needed for reproduction.

...the larger it gets, the larger it gets. If only one person in the world were homosexual, you wouldnt see it grow like it does now.

It has to start somewhere.

If there weren't a single homosexual in the world, fifty years from now it still wouldn't have amounted to anything at all. But, if it continues like this, just with the slow decay of time, and as people get used to it, it WILL one day be as big as anything else, guaranteed.

You seem to think that homsexuality was invented in the last 20 years. Gays have existed throught history. At the rate you're describing we would all be gay hundreds of years ago.

And it spreads simply by people seeing it and getting used to it - a culture thing.

Yes, because as soon as I saw Queer Eye for the Straight Guy on telly I ran off and found a hunk of my own right away

Consider that the samurai were bisexual, and no, they werent born that way... and so, as an act of preservation of order and balance in our species, it really should be outlawed from being allowed to ever be seen in public, in any way. This concerns me a LOT. ESPECIALLY on TV and movies. You just can't show people that, and let them get used to a psychologically contagious disease that spreads through the eyes.

You're talking about desenitization. I see people being killed in games and films all the time, I wouldn't even dream of doing it.

I have nothing against homosexuals, who are still very much people, who I see as deserving life to be same as anyone else. What I don't like is the corruption of the human race's natural order, and seeing people try to accept it. If a mental illness (one that makes you think you're a dolphin) suddenly began spreading by people imagining themselves as dolphins, from seeing others doing it, you would need to stop it to preserve the species. Same thing.

Mental illness isn't contagous...

Just as the news and newspapers can't talk about suicide, because it gives people ideas,

Really? They talk about it here without any trouble.

so they shouldn't be able to talk about anything to do with homosexuality, because they bring the world closer and closer to homosexuality. It's like gaining experience points in an RPG. The world is slowly given this steady trickle of Homo-Accepting-Experience points, and pretty soon the culture will Level-Up.

I acept that some people are Islamic, I don't want to become one. Acceptance does not lead to becoming.

Consider this: Would it surprise you if an alien came to you and said, "Your planet has some serious problems. You need to stop homosexuality in your species."

It would surprise me deeply if they came down and that was their biggest concern about us.

If that sounds natural,

I doubt anyone would consider that thought to sound natural.

it's because it is. The idea behind aliens is that they're supposed to be perfectly reasonable,

The idea behind alien, in general, is to want to kill us and steal our planet or even drink our blood.

and see through problems right to the bottom, without an ouce of clout, which is why I like to use them as thought-provokers when politics and thick-headedness - layers upon layers of ideas - get in the way of thinking clearly.

You think that bringing aliens into any serious political debate will lower your standing with everyone involved.

Homosexuality needs to be swept under the rug and hidden, not allowing them to adopt children, so that when this generation of homosexuals dies, that's the end of this. It may sound harsh to not allow adoption, but think of the poor child who is forcibly stripped of his natural order.

hahhahaha! Yes, because no child EVER that grew up in a completly any-gay place turned out gay.

 

[el Chi]

Homosexuality needs to be swept under the rug and hidden

You're an utter fool, you really are.
If that's who they are, why should they be ashamed of it? Because they're in a minority? There really is - and I know this has been said a hundred times before - no logical, secular reason to think homosexuality is in any way bad.
And the idea that it "spreads" within a society is utterly preposterous.
Even if, as you assert, someone does "turn gay" because they were surrounded by gay people, does that not say that they had a predisposition towards an "alternative" sexuality anyway?

Or if someone is ashamed of their homosexual tendencies, because of bigots like you, is it good that they shield who they truly are not only from the rest of the world but from themselves? Is it good that they live a miserable lie because people like you are too closed-minded?

If there's a rise in homosexuality it's because it's become acceptable, and people can openly come to terms with who they really are. It's not that all of a sudden homosexuality is some contageous condition, as you imply. People are being who they want to be and can only do so now, after fighting this backwards, nonsensical oppression that you are espousing right now.

Why don't you want to see it in public? Why does it make you uncomfortable? It has absolutely nothing to do with you whatsoever and I suggest you question the roots of these absurd, uncomfortable feelings of yours.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Complete load of homophobic bollocks.

Wow. Just...wow.

 

[15357]

What I *REALLY* can't stand, and what should be simple flat-out illegal, is the "showing" of homosexuality in public, in any shape or form whatsoever.

Why? Homosexuality spreads by people seeing it - just look at the children of homosexual couples, who in turn become homosexual, and the rising count of lesbians due to porn. Homosexuality is an unnatural psychological disease - no offense intended, but being realistic, if aliens from outer space saw it, they'd label homosexuality as a disease in the human species. ...the larger it gets, the larger it gets. If only one person in the world were homosexual, you wouldnt see it grow like it does now. If there weren't a single homosexual in the world, fifty years from now it still wouldn't have amounted to anything at all. But, if it continues like this, just with the slow decay of time, and as people get used to it, it WILL one day be as big as anything else, guaranteed.

And it spreads simply by people seeing it and getting used to it - a culture thing. Consider that the samurai were bisexual, and no, they werent born that way... and so, as an act of preservation of order and balance in our species, it really should be outlawed from being allowed to ever be seen in public, in any way. This concerns me a LOT. ESPECIALLY on TV and movies. You just can't show people that, and let them get used to a psychologically contagious disease that spreads through the eyes.

I have nothing against homosexuals, who are still very much people, who I see as deserving life to be same as anyone else. What I don't like is the corruption of the human race's natural order, and seeing people try to accept it. If a mental illness (one that makes you think you're a dolphin) suddenly began spreading by people imagining themselves as dolphins, from seeing others doing it, you would need to stop it to preserve the species. Same thing.

Just as the news and newspapers can't talk about suicide, because it gives people ideas, so they shouldn't be able to talk about anything to do with homosexuality, because they bring the world closer and closer to homosexuality. It's like gaining experience points in an RPG. The world is slowly given this steady trickle of Homo-Accepting-Experience points, and pretty soon the culture will Level-Up.

Consider this: Would it surprise you if an alien came to you and said, "Your planet has some serious problems. You need to stop homosexuality in your species."

If that sounds natural, it's because it is. The idea behind aliens is that they're supposed to be perfectly reasonable, and see through problems right to the bottom, without an ouce of clout, which is why I like to use them as thought-provokers when politics and thick-headedness - layers upon layers of ideas - get in the way of thinking clearly.

Homosexuality needs to be swept under the rug and hidden, not allowing them to adopt children, so that when this generation of homosexuals dies, that's the end of this. It may sound harsh to not allow adoption, but think of the poor child who is forcibly stripped of his natural order.

I find homosexuality unappealing and kinda abnormal(for lack of a better word), but if I agree with you, the forum people will burn me down.

However, I think that gay marriage should be allowed, but not for them to adopt children (unless the children are gay also, which can't really be told in young children so therefore renders the possibility of adoption nil, which makes me a homophobe.... ?)

Oh yeah, must stay neutral or get burned. Um... *coughDepartmentofdefectivegenecontrol+amatuereugenicsftwcough*

*coughhitlerhadtherightidealolcough*

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Finding it unappealing isn't the same as classing it as a disease and believing that it should be eradicated.

 

[CptStern]

Dario D: I'd really like to slam you for your idiotic post ..but most people here have done a good enough job of making you look like the homophobe you truely are ..by far one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen at HL2

 

[15357]

Hey, if the majority of Dario D.'s nation was homophobic, he'd be in power.

 

[DeusExMachina]

I find homosexuality unappealing (what straight man wouldn't?), but there's really nothing abnormal about it. I don't know if being homosexual is a choice or something natural that happens in some people, but either way we should express tolerance and acceptance. I disapprove of organized religion, but I don't hate anyone involved with it. I disapprove of the war, but I don't hate soldiers or insurgents. It's fine to disapprove of homosexuality, that's your right, but at least show the tolerance people show your beliefs.

I'm talking to everyone in general, no one in particular.

 

[kirovman]

most people here have done a good enough job of making you look like the homophobe you truely are

Heh, I think he managed that without any help from anyone.

 

[ríomhaire]

Heh, I think he managed that without any help from anyone.

Indeed.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

[Gay is] a psychologically contagious disease that spreads through the eyes.

Actually, that's very true. Here's the scientific report that proves it.


Oh man, this is the funniest shit ever.

if aliens from outer space saw it, they'd label homosexuality as a disease in the human species. [...] Consider this: Would it surprise you if an alien came to you and said, "Your planet has some serious problems. You need to stop homosexuality in your species."

.When Dario finds out that the majority of known species reproduce asexually, do you think he'll claw out his eyes?

"The sexually superior hetero-monsters in my imagination say that humans have a thought disease."

Sounds like somebody is pining for alien poontang.

It's like gaining experience points in an RPG. The world is slowly given this steady trickle of Homo-Accepting-Experience points, and pretty soon the culture will Level-Up.

LOLOLOL


LOLOLOL

I just had a chat with the aliens and they are very horrified that you touch yourself at night.

Looks like you just started an intergalactic war, jackass.

Good thing I am protected by my "Level 20 against Alien Holocaust" Plate Mail, granted by my collecting 10,400 same-sexperience points.

 

[Dario D.]

Am I the only person who recognizes that 50 years ago it was a minor, minor issue? Almost nonexistant compared to today?

You can ridicule the notion all you want, but it means nothing until you disprove that homosexuality is a rapidly-growing force that will soon be vastly widespread. Can you disprove that? Of course not.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well obviously.
The alien holocaust you started wasn't initiated until very recently, when you touched yourself.

Masturbatiion was a minor, minor issue 50 years ago, but now here you are going off all willy-nilly.
Frankly, the aliens are mortified.

I suggest you apologise to them before our solar system is eradicated.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Am I the only person who recognizes that 50 years ago it was a minor, minor issue? Almost nonexistant compared to today?

It wasn't nonexistent. Gays were practically crucified 50 years ago, they kept to themselves because they didn't want to get lynched by the local mob.

 

[CptStern]

Am I the only person who recognizes that 50 years ago it was a minor, minor issue? Almost nonexistant compared to today?

umm could it be because you could face societal ostracisation, imprisonment, or worse?

you ever hear that old Mark Twain saying?

"Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt."

You can ridicule the notion all you want, but it means nothing until you disprove that homosexuality is a rapidly-growing force that will soon be vastly widespread. Can you disprove that? Of course not.

could you prove it? I'd really like to see you try. The burden of proof is on you, not us ..we're waiting for you to back up your silly statements

 

[Dario D.]

could you prove it? I'd really like to see you try. The burden of proof is on you, not us ..we're waiting for you to back up your silly statements

I'm looking for the stats... just gimme a sec.

 

[CptStern]

so in other words you're advocating killing gays?

you're a ****ing idiot

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Apparently Dario wants everyone to die, because he's attracted to spacemen anyways.

No wonder he's initiated this masturbation apocalypse scheme.

 

[DeusExMachina]

With all this talk of aliens, leveling up, and all this "scientific proof" dealing with homosexuality, I'd say he's a plant from the Church of Scientology.

 

[CptStern]

Uh no, actually. He basically just called you retarded.

he quickly edited his post ..I should have quoted him

here's the gist of what he said:

It wasn't nonexistent. Gays were practically crucified 50 years ago, they kept to themselves because they didn't want to get lynched by the local mob.

so you know where I'm getting at

 

[Dario D.]

so in other words you're advocating killing gays?

you're a ****ing idiot

PSHH!! Of course not. I stated clearly what I think of them:

"I have nothing against homosexuals, who are still very much people, who I see as deserving life to be same as anyone else."

 

[Mechagodzilla]

But not to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Yeah, you're a great person.

 

[kirovman]

Dario D, your alien masturbation scheme disgusts me.

Please go back to whatever planet you crawled from.

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,

A Concerned Human.

 

[The Monkey]

Haha, these people crack me up! It's always fun when some xenophobic idiot find their way here

 

[Dario D.]

I haven't found any stats from pre-1990's (apprently there arent any that I know of), but I found some hard-punching numbers just from 1990-2000.

http://www.avert.org/hsexu1.htm

The most alarming one being:

(Among Women) "Ever had a sexual experience, not necessarily including genital contact, with a partner of the same sex?"

1990: 2.8%
2000: 9.7%

Edit: added this one:
(Among Women) Ever had sex with a same sex partner, including genital contact?

1990: 1.9%
2000: 5.7%


200% increase.... in 10 years. Nuff said.

I also confess that I embrace all people equally, and with love - when I read what I wrote, knowing what I was thinking, I see nothing whatsoever to be concerned or alarmed about. I tried hard to make understood that it's not the "people", it's the issue itself that I'm addressing. If you disagree, read again carefully. I think of homosexuality as a "thing" and refer to it that way, just like I think of "headaches" and "the common cold" as "things" and not people. Knowing myself, and what I think, there's nothing to complain about. Knowing myself, this is all innocent thought. Time to take some chillax.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Wait, I'm getting an E-Mail from our alien friends that I should pass on to "Daria" (sic). I guess they mean Dario.

Dear Daria,

We are very disappointed that you would engage in onanism so brazenly.

We have nothing against you and respect you, but we demand that you stop masturbating immediately under penalty of torture. Your self-stimulation is a brain disease transmitted through psychic rays, and it has infected our species. Now our entire race just spanks constantly. Even I am typing this with only one one of four hands.

This claim must seem natural to you.

Also, we are rather offended that you hate same-sexes. Our race reproduces via tiny spores, and has no "male" or "female" so go eat a Polish.

We demand an apology, or your galaxy will be destroyed!

Sincerely,

ZYBALT THE GREAT DESTROYER

Better do as he/she says. If they can detect you wanking, they can detect whether or not you're being sincere.

1990: 2.8%
2000: 9.7%

We're talking 10 years here, folks. Nuff said.

OH LORD
If the percentage continues to multiply by a factor of 3.5 every decade, OVER 100 PERCENT OF WOMEN WILL BE LESBIANS BY THE YEAR 2020!!!

That's 'NUFF SAID so there's no need for any actual satistical analysis of a >3-point dataset.

 

[CptStern]

I haven't found any stats from pre-1990's (apprently there arent any that I know of), but I found some hard-punching numbers just from 1990-2000.

http://www.avert.org/hsexu1.htm

The most alarming one being:

(Among Women) "Ever had a sexual experience, not necessarily including genital contact, with a partner of the same sex?"

1990: 2.8%
2000: 9.7%

We're talking 10 years here, folks. Nuff said.

wow!!! a whole 6.9% increase ..CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD IT"S A CONSPIRACY!!!!


btw you did notice the "not necessarily including genital contact" right? so now kissing or holding hands with the same sex means people are gay?

oh noes!!!1 teh gheys


more gheys!!!1


even more gheys!!!!!!11


GHEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dario D.]

Sticks and stones.

 

[el Chi]

Having a "non-genital" sexual experience (what a fabulous euphemism) doesn't make you gay. If that's "on the rise", it doesn't mean that there's a pandemic of The Gay (the specific virus that causes people to - and I quote the medical term - go all fruity)
What it does mean is that people are becoming less prudish and exploring their sexuality, and thus themselves as human beings.
The horror!

It's fine to disapprove of homosexuality, that's your right, but at least show the tolerance people show your beliefs.

Not a bad point at all.
Although to be honest, I can't stand homophobes or racists, etc. and as such I have little-to-no respect (or tolerance come to think of it) for their opinions or their stance on related issues, so I guess it works the other way around.
I suppose, if someone's homophobic but not hurting or hindering others because of it, then that's not so bad.

 

[CptStern]

Sticks and stones.

you cant back up your rediculous statements, you only have yourself to blame for being rediculed

 

[kirovman]

Dario, I have a strong reason to believe there is an outbreak of gay in your area. I advice you to immediately proceed to a bomb shelter and wait for all the gays to die out.
The aliens will let you know when they've gone.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

But OVER 100 PERCENT OF WOMEN WILL BE LESBIANS BY THE YEAR 2020!!!

What am I going to tell my grandma???

If we don't let the gays conceive children, how are we ever going to continue the species?!

We may die out long before ZYBALT's anti-masturbation spacecruisers even arrive to unleash the reaper drones!