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Get the driver from ATI. They are the same but the ones direct from ATI will be newer versions probably.

Swiftech kit with dual radiators cost me about £160 including fans and all.

Reset the CMOS just in case I get this occasionally. Otherwise take it ALL apart and assemble just the mobo, vid card, ram and a hd and see if that boots.

johnnypoopoopant I would say 7 but that could be because I like that mobo. Get rid of that video card it must really hurt. Mine Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 12.5 x 200 Soltek SL75 FRN2-RL 1GB Kingston HyperX BFG 6800 GT @ 420/1.1 2 x 80GB Maxtor drives in RAID All the other crap as usual

I am looking at it this way, even if HL2 does not come out till late November at least we get to play with a game written specifically for the source engine before the end of the month. Can only be a good thing and will help the wait pass quicker.

S**T now I have a decision on my hands ;( I don't want to choose. VUG get your fingers out. Me off to book alot of time off especially if hl2 comes out about the same time.

A little but the one thing I wish I had never seen was the strider. Imagine if valve had never shown it in any binks and suddenly your playing and that comes round the corner :eek: Story does not really bother me I am in it for the action.

Why would they not do this? Did you see how bad it was when Doom 3 came out, I remember reading that one site had over 50000 downloading it on bit torrent. VUG \ Valve likely saw this and thought that 1 time authentication was a good idea. Really it is not that unlikely but would suck if you...

Nah Max Payne 2 was fantastic. Much better than far cry, better story, more fun to pay and did not crap on you if you did not have a $2500 PC

Remember reviewers know they have a pre-gold copy and take that into account when reviewing so it is quite possible there were several blue screens or crashed to desk top. This is why I don't like world first reviews, as they are not playing the actual retail code.

Somewhere around 30 days maybe a bit more but normally not much if they have not got a reason to send it back within 30 days then in all consideration it is finished. That means that if there is no gold by 15th october I personnaly would presume it was returned to valve. But you never know I...

There will be a clause in the contract that says VUG must return a decision within a certain time frame and there will also be a clause that says the bugs must be of a certain quantity and severity to cause a no go on the gold. If you ever see one of these contracts you will be amased, you could...

But maybe just maybe this will make VUG get a move on as they know the early access to CS:S is going to cost them sales if they don't get it out soon. So with a little luck this might just speed it all up.

What valve need is something more inspiring than CS:S how about order now and get HL:S next week so you can play through it again in preperation for HL2, that would probably make me go to steam.

Well hopefully this will give VUG the kick up th arse they need they don't want all the people who are undecided on retail or steam suddenly going for steam just to get CS:S early.

Yeah but getting it early (next week isn't it) for buying through steam I presume is designed to generate steam sales (as well as put preassure on VUG) but seen as I don't want CS:S it does not really change my decision to go retail.

Retail. CS:S has all the appeal of genital warts to me so it still ain't going to sway me although I would rather give my money to Valve than VUG.

You do realise it is possible to have a) a job and b) a life and still browse these forum's don't you? I mean for F**k's sake I am at work and reading these pages helps keep me partially sane during long night when I am doing overtime (damnit compile you piece of shit!). Me thinks you...

There are too main reasons for this (going on my experience with EA) first it is a final big bug test let 50 odd play testers have at it on a variety of machines for 2 -3 days and see how easy it is to make crash etc. Secondly and most importantly for legal reasons to make sure there are no...

Exactly my work entails stuff like fluid dynamics and to be honest we are a LONG way from the computational power to do stuff like that. Admitadley a wave or current could be botched to look right but building a simulation of water that involves more than a fancy top layer with some blue...