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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=94 Alot of people at this forum make their own home theaters, projectors, 110" screens, surround sound, theater seating. the works.

my 2.5ghz xp-m that cost me 90 dollars, would beg to differ. :laugh:

It's a sampler.

Most of the money, thats why VU is acting like a bunch of tight wads. See normaly its like this. A) game company makes said game, publisher usually funds said game B) Publisher releases game to stores, about 7 dollars goes to the devleoper for each sale. Guess where the rest goes? But...

can we make an "*Offical* bash vivendi thread?

yea clasic, every one should get the VU phone number and complain if you bought it in store.

Which leads back to my orgianl point that the standard editon is still better then the CE. All the ce is really giving us is a t-shirt and a book sampler. Big woop. its quite easy to take those 5 cds from the standard and make them into a single dvd, after all its just the steam backup...

Well, your one of the lucky few that got a nice deal in that case.

OMG :lol: I posted how its better to buy any other version then the CE, then you try to defend it. Now your going on about how i was complaing all there was to buy was the ce? what are you smoking. "And besides no one was twisting your arm behind you back making you buy the ce" No Sh*t...

Its just like the North american version, expect its on one dvd instead of 5 cds.

Know I see why you have a pickle shoved up your behind over all this. You already wasted your money on it and thus are trying to Justify your purchase when you could have made a smarter choice. In retail we see this all the time.

Your not getting it either, when you pay over ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS you expect them to at least "TRY" and put some quality into it. Instead they give crap, and go cheap so they can make more money. and what are you talking about "its better then nothing" that would be true if all we...

yes it is a sampler book. if you can buy it over steam I suggest you do that, not a very good deal at all for the CE.

yet another case of some one not reading. Thats a copy from EUROPE, know where that is? Almost everything they get is on dvd even in the standard editions.

The Collectors editon? no it sucks plain and simple. utter rip off. IF you can't buy it from steam for whatever reason, then buy the standard edition, you save yourself quite a few bucks... No t-shirt and some stupid sampler book is worth the price diffrence.

No it still sucks, if everyone can get it over steam, do that. cheaper, you get more and it won't suck. Unless you live in europe, hell their standard edition comes on dvd and has a nice dvd case. + there collectors edition, its in a metal tin apparently. :naughty:

when your paying 100 dollars for something, it IS crap.

yes expect the x300 will more then likely default to dx9 and be able to run the game at that. While the Fx cards default to dx 8...

Depends on what the onboard sound is on the motherboard, there are lots of diffrent types. Some much better then others.

Better quality thats why. = better sound. The cheap 7.1's are just that "cheap" so they will be less then good.