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I will tell you this, from my experience as a game developer building levels. These screen shots aren't the greatest but they also aren't THAT horribly dated as you say. The reasons for them looking dated aren't the fault of the engine... I could begin to list the reasons why as I see many...

Looks great!

I work in a game studio and even my coworkers haven't have the management skills to put together a mod in our free time. Many props to anyone who can and does work on a mod. Insurgency is definitely something I've been keeping my eyes on.

Can't wait. Too bad the pine trees in EP2 are fugly as hell.

Smart business move.

Well maybe this new release has fixed all your issues?

I think this was around even before NS came around so to be fair so give em a break. Plus, they have quite a track record http://www.blackcatgames.com/swarm/awards But I'm sure you knew this and was just poking at the fact that it does resemble SST, starcraft and such.

As much as people would like to bitch about Steam I think its one of the best things to come out of Valve to the PC market. Go to any game store and you'll find that the PC shelf is nearly non-existent. Some important people in the game biz see PC games as a dying market but valve and steam IMO...

This is how you keep a mod strong. Consistent and timely updates. (off to play!):sniper:

Definitely a great release with even more potential. I cannot though for the life of me spawn any zombies while ZM. Everyone yells nub and says "double click nub" and I quadruple click on the spheres and nothing. And yes I click with the left mouse button.

The best part about the left 4 dead video was the fact that they had the Marathon menu screen on the monitor.

Also a funny story. I was in the tower last night and I wedged myself up in the window while firing down on the zombies below. A banshee comes up the ladder and into the tower. It walks around confused and close enough for me to punch it in the face without it harming me.Just when I think I am...

Kronos thanks for the tip! ABout the CS style re spawn. Personally I like it how it is. It kind of annoys me that in todays games everyone needs gameplay to be fast and furious in order to have fun. Gamers should treat death like a penalty, not just a temporary annoyance. Its simple, if you die...

I happened to go ZM one round, had no clue what I was doing and within seconds people started calling me a nub. Lol. And its been out for literally days. Here is my suggestion. Implement a system where upon joining the server, players can decide whether to be placed in the ZM Cue. You could make...

Excellent mod. Recommend it!

I was at GDC for two full days and somehow missed Valve's Booth. Heard it was bad placement. Anyways, just an off topic comment. Carry on.

I will miss the days when fake and clever brands were used in games. :(

Don't let a few pessimistic people put your hopes down. The release of TF2 can only benefit this mod than hurt it and there are qualitites to this mod keeping with the classic feel and gameplay of TF that its a winner in my book. Keep on keeping on.

Yesterday at work my colleagues and I were discussing what our favorite games of all time were. Initially I said half life and then for 5 minutes sat thinking and realized no, infact my favorite game ever was NS. The first game where I actually felt part of something big. This is exciting news!

The first time I died from gargantua I remember sitting in front of the monitor with my jaw dropped for nearly 5 minutes before attempting to spawn again. Just looking at it swinging its belly around thinking, "how in the world am I going to kill this thing". It was awesome. Boss battles are...