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OOBErs do that stuff al lthe time. The playing card trick is famous in OOBE communities, visit some of them.

A dream, a LD, a WILD, and an OOBE are all basically the same action, and yet all are fundamentally different in the way the environment works and is percieved that, as I said, it's best to think of them as completely different things. You think of a LD as something different than a dream, even...

lol @ pauly. Wow this thread really took off! Even the people dead set against the reality of the experience have been pretty rational and civil about it. Yes, there are similarities. Most hardcore LDers think of OOBE as a glorified LD, LDing is what they know. On the forum you...

Did you wake into this state during sleep? Sounds like sleep paralysis. This is a common problem. Try doing it during mid-day, when your not tired, and not in your bed. Lay on your couch or something. Your mind associates your bed with sleep.

It's hard to say for sure from your description. It could very well have been an OOBE. You say your consciousness was asserting that it was an OOBE, and in cases like this it's usually best to go with your own interpretation of the experience. How conscious were you? Was it like waking...

Yes, it's possible. For people who don't really have experience in OOBEing, they might be confused as to wether their experience was actually an OOBE or just a LD of them OOBEing. And sometimes they can believe it was an OOBE when it wasn't. But an experienced OOBEr is familiar enough with the...

This is a very popular and helpful technique for improving dream recall, but Lucid Dreams are much more than "clearly remembered dreams", or vivd dreams. The term Lucid Dreaming was coined by Frederik van Eeden in 1913, and the word Lucid in the term refers to the perception of the truth that...

What to do once you enter the "vibrational state" - When you enter the state at which you feel the vibrations set in, pay attention to where they are coming from and where they are moving to. Did it start in your stomache, did it start in your head, is it growing or remaining constant? Some...

ok, thats fine :cheers:

lol, what is it you guys don't like about the Stargate program?:laugh:

Why a nuisance? Man, I ****ing love every one of my LDs. They are a blast. Why don't you enjoy them? Spontaneous LDs are one of the highlights of learning to OOBE. Not a sign of unbalance, IMHO. Can you describe some of your LDs and why they bother you?

It's just a technique. The point is to relax your body completely, I mean COMPLETELY. Some do this very systematically, in order to be thorough. They will tense up one muscle group and hold it for a couple of seconds, then let it go and "relax" it. Tensing it helps draw attention to that part of...

Wow, I'm excited to see so many of you are actually putting some effort into investigating the phenomenon. This level of participation wasn't expected at all!:cheers: @ Solaris - Keep working at it. If you had that experience after your first night of trying, then your very fortunate and...

huh?

They have done similar studies. Have you researched some of the initial studies the American military and intelligence agencies conducted before they instituted the Stargate program, and during it's run? The german military under Hitler also did alot of experimenting with this type of thing...

I don't see how. Imagine a room at the top of a mountain that only you and I can go to. We can't take pictures, we can't bring anything back with us or leave anything there, all we can do is go into the room and come back. No one else can go, and when we come back all we have is the memory of...

Universal, yes. But harder to come by in an environment where one shapes their own reality, and ones expectations and superstitions become real and manifest.

Creating an environment yourself and "playing" around with it is where my idea came from, and is alot of fun also. But yes, I'm speaking of shared experiences with more than just myself. And yea, the implications are obvious. Hard for some to swallow, just start with the basic experience and go...

Nothing wrong with that.

Do not rationalize the experience into a non-experience. It happens to nearly everyone, wether they expect it to come/heard of it or not. People who have never heard of it before in their life and have a spontaneous OOBE experience the same phenomenon. It's a natural functioning of the process...