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ilove64, are you telling me if was realeased next week on steam and december in stores, you would wait three months!?

"doubted"? come on, stop the denial.

^^yes

never.

doug would not have said something more specific. nothing they have ever said has ever been specific. why would they suddenly start giving us specific information, esp. after this delay?

considering they admitted sept 30 would be "tight" about a month ago, I doubt it was SO tight that it would be any later than christmas.

it IS saddam's fault.

I wouldn't read into it too deeply.

thanks staffp18

There was something to be said for the hope that valve was going to break all precedent by not announcing til just before the release and actually hitting the date. Oh well. Your point is still true.

wasn't that a mod that got turned into a game? I can't remember.

http://www.buckingmachine.net/

couple things: 1. I always leave my cdrom as the first boot device, it will only boot if there's a bootable cd in the drive (rare). and even if there is most BIOS will give you the "hit any key to boot from cd . . . . " time-out. 2. you don't have to format the HD before running the...

pressure, you'll love the jump you get with the new comp. I ran 3dmark03 just b4 i upgraded too. I had: p4 1.7 384 mg rdram geforce 3 3dmark03---> 39 points!! (this crashed on the sound thing too) upgrade my ram to 768, and my geforce 3 to a radion 9800 pro 3dmark03 ----> 6,000...

oooh, THAT! I thought you meant the non-interactive macintosh productivity software. By the time the games comes out, radeon 9800 pro will be sub $250 everywhere, so that's a good vid card. 512 ram is prob enough, but its cheap these days so go for more if you can. p4 2.8 would be...

fat-bob, it's not an exact science, but something like that. and your avatar is really...gross.

wow, rec, nice jump at the end there. nvidia riva 128 >> nvida Geforce >> Geforce 3 >> 128 Radeon 9800 pro. interestingly, both my geforces were the originals (ie the bad ones, lol). So my geforce didn't have ddr, and my geforce 3 was before the whole Ti500 things.

I have a sapphire, and so does dawdler (he's always raving about it). I'm very happy with mine. WaSwat, if you're rolling in money, go for it, but the 256 mb version doesn't give you any advantage at all. maybe 1 or 2 fps. until games come out in 2 years or so with much bigger textures, it...

Let's compare this "battle" to a previous one; nvida vs. 3dfx. That was a war that 3dfx REALLY lost. I mean, they got bought. Because all they did was make high performace video cards. Nvidia is growing into a much, much larger company than ATI and so will begin to get advantages (economies...

Understood, but I think we all agree that people would feel more comfortable with these sorts of announcements if they were made on valvesoftware.com. Then people wouldn't scream FAKE for days afterward.