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Then argue with someone else, I'm not interested. :E

People can't expect me to believe it with all the rumors that fly around without evidence, I made that part clear. I even searched on Google for information, but never found it. Someone finally did clear it up for me. Can we move on now?

Actually, we're trying to get it back on track again I believe. I'm partly responsible for the thread being derailed, and I'm now asking humbly to move on from the graphics debate.

It's ok man.

I officially change my position to "there is no reason to believe that it did not take them six years." Looking back at this thread, I seem to be stubborn. :thumbs:

Real nice, I extend a hand in friendship and get slapped. Seriously, lets move on from that. :cheers:

Moving away from all things not related to the topic, am I the only one that had never heard that Valve did start it 6 years ago? Because it seems that most people here had prior knowledge, but when I asked for links I never got any. With all the rumors around I am less then willing to accept...

Thank you, that Is the first time I noticed anyone even say that Valve directly said that. That's all I was asking for. Was that mentioned earlier in the thread? edit: Didn't like my analogy? How about this. When Half-Life Radio said that it would be released by valve to vivendi within a few...

How am I "pushing his credibility when he uses words like 'completely different' or 'revoluntionary' in contrast to previous unified lighting technology which was 'gimmicky' or 'fake'." when I never said that. Provide a quote please. I did compare it to the type of lighting that Half-Life 2...

I don't have to, the people that are claiming it did have the burden of proof. I said I don't believe it because I have seen absolutely no evidence that it is true, none. Allow me to provide an example of the error in your logic: Someone claims that Santa Claus is real and exists, I say I...

Yeah, there really isn't any need for that garbage. However, unfortunately there seems to be a lot of people in certain gaming communities that have no problem saying whatever king af garbage to anyone. Including lying, etc. About the interview. It was ok I guess, I would have preferred more...

No, now do you have any sources to back that up, or is it speculation?

That didn't look to different to me than a regular puff of blood, but like the original question, it would add an extra effect to have the puff of blood, and blood in the water. But I've heard rumors of reduced gore on human characters. Not sure if it's true or not.

That would be interesting. It actually got me wondering if there is a game out that didn't have a boss at the end, but had a puzzle instead. Might never have been done before.

Look at the thread title, I said I don't believe it either based on what I've seen. Clear enough?

I guess there doesn't need to be a boss, but some kind of conclusion/cliff hanger or something.

Are you saying that I claimed they are hiding something? I just said that I haven't even seen a quote that anyone at valve even said it took that long. Please don't put words in my mouth, because that's what it appears that you are doing to me.

Did I miss something? Who said they withheld it?

Now that is a bit of speculation that I can get into. I forgot about that game. Did that take 6 years too, lol? I knew it didn't add up. :cheers:

Lol, the variety of things that people can come up with never ceases to amaze me.