uh yeah i know that...i said the havoc engine is not current genertaion...yup...that modified havoc(i thought it was havoc2) is not current gen...sorry that bothers u so much...
no i'm not seeming to make that point...u think i'm making that point...i wasn't...i was just pointing out that the havoc engine used in hl2 is not a current generation physics engine...
explain to me what ur even talking about?