36% Approval Rating For August, How Low Can It Go

[Kamikazie]

that would hurt my feelings...then i would have to go jedi on your ass

 

[Absinthe]

I haven't been insulted in so long. I'm starting to feel unloved.

Then again, I don't post in the Politics forum quite as much as I used to. At least not in Bush-related topics.

 

[Kamikazie]

absinthe youre a dirty whore

anyways i think that there is to many bush threads, we are giving him to much recognition

 

[No Limit]

Then why isn't he being impeached?

First off, Republicans control the houses of congress so an impeachment could never happen. Second, Democrats are a bunch of pussies as Stern pointed out and would never touch such a hot issue because they are too afraid to take any political risk. They demonstrated this on the Iraq vote which was scheduled 2 days before mid-term elections.

 

[Pesmerga]

no, I disagree with most people here ...there's a difference

I disagree with a lot of people...but I'm not so liberal with my mouth

 

[seinfeldrules]

no, I disagree with most people here ...there's a difference

I think that more people disagree with me over you.

Just look down the topic list.

 

[ComradeBadger]

Topic guys.

 

[Thadius Dean]

Topic guys.

Bout to say...

For those that are questioning this poll:

About this Survey -

Survey Sponsor: American Research Group, Inc.

The American Research Group has been conducting national surveys of consumers since 1985.

Sample Size: 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of all adults age 18 and older living in telephone households in the continental United States.

Sample Dates: August 18-21, 2005

Margin of Error: ± 3 percentage points, 95% of the time, on questions where opinion is evenly split.

Question Wording:

How do you rate the condition of the national economy these days - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the national economy is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

Would you say that the national economy is in a recession, or not?

A year from now, do you expect the national economy to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

How do you rate the condition of the financial situation in your household - would you say it is excellent, very good, good, bad, very bad, or terrible?

Do you think the financial situation in your household is getting better, staying the same, or getting worse?

A year from now, do you expect the financial situation in your household to be better than it is today, the same as it is today, or worse than it is today?

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the economy?

 

[CptStern]

I disagree with a lot of people...but I'm not so liberal with my mouth

hmmm I think you're mis-using that word ...I think you're saying I say what I please but you wont?



thanks Thadius Dean, there's no doubt that manipulative wording in the questions arent to blame

 

[Thadius Dean]

Well, that and lemonking's question of who they surveyed.

 

[Pesmerga]

hmmm I think you're mis-using that word ...I think you're saying I say what I please but you wont?

I say what I want, but I used liberal as an adjective to annunciate your quantiful remarks

I didn't mean it like.... democratic liberal...

 

[Kamikazie]

I say what I want, but I used liberal as an adjective to annunciate your quantiful remarks

I didn't mean it like.... democratic liberal...

as long as you dont think you can get what you want, like that chocolate milk kid...

 

[CptStern]

I say what I want, but I used liberal as an adjective to annunciate your quantiful remarks

huh? ..

 

[Pesmerga]

What don't you get?

- Merely saying....you steam up debate more than most people on this board, which leads us back to the point where this thread got off topic.

 

[Tr0n]

I'm horny right now.

 

[CptStern]

actually if you look at the threads I've started the majority have nothing to do with war or the US

 

[Pesmerga]

actually if you look at the threads I've started the majority have nothing to do with war or the US

I didn't say you started debates on the US War.

 

[seinfeldrules]

actually if you look at the threads I've started the majority have nothing to do with war or the US

How about we look at your threads starting in the politics section, where such threads would be relevent.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471818&pp=25

I mean other than the gaming threads, its all US/Bush (mostly or all anti), War (directly related to US), or gay (again mostly referring to the US situation) stuff.

From page 3 on is a good example of that
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471818&pp=25&page=3

 

[CptStern]

How about we look at your threads starting in the politics section, where such threads would be relevent.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471818&pp=25

I mean other than the gaming threads, its all US/Bush (mostly or all anti), War (directly related to US), or gay (again mostly referring to the US situation) stuff.

From page 3 on is a good example of that
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471818&pp=25&page=3

? half are on gta jack thompson and so on

if I do the same for you

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471828

100% is about iraq/bush/republicans

 

[seinfeldrules]

? half are on gta jack thompson and so on

if I do the same for you

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=471828

100% is about iraq/bush/republicans

Then again I have 26 started topics since 08/2004. You have 91. From page 2 on you have the vast majority being non-gaming (GTA) threads.

 

[CptStern]

91 out of 387 topics (granted the politics forum was created 6 months after I joined) ...and half of 91 are on subjects other than iraq or the US

 

[clarky003]

does it matter.. it just means Stern likes to post more info, most likely because he cares about the topics and wants to share that information, nothing wrong with that.

 

[CptStern]

yes thank you clarky003

 

[KoreBolteR]

cptstern has put more effort in posting his views. doesnt mean hes right 100% of the time tho.

tho i do respect stern for his opinion.

dont forget the media have a say in what cptstern thinks. the media are the ones twisting all the stories and causing even more hatred.... could start WW3 imo

 

[CptStern]

not the "media conspiracy" thing again :upstare: come on there's all types of new sources ..I think you have a problem with editorialising (example: fox"news" puts a republican/right wing slant to their news) not the media ..that's too general

.... of course the "media" influences my ideology ..but that's only a small part of it and I do try to read as many sources/viewpoints as possible ..although I admittedly refuse to read fox"news" or any of it's ilk ...they spread more disinformation than they do information and are absolutely unreliable as a legitimate news source ..I've tried but it's just too glaringly apparent

 

[KoreBolteR]

not the "media conspiracy" thing again :upstare: come on there's all types of new sources ..I think you have a problem with editorialising (example: fox"news" puts a republican/right wing slant to their news) not the media ..that's too general

.... of course the "media" influences my ideology ..but that's only a small part of it and I do try to read as many sources/viewpoints as possible ..although I admittedly refuse to read fox"news" or any of it's ilk ...they spread more disinformation than they do information and are absolutely unreliable as a legitimate news source ..I've tried but it's just too glaringly apparent

i wouldnt be surprised if youve seen al-jazeera (hate murder terrorist recruitment news channel)

like i said, your entitled to your view, as i am of mine. youve changed my view slightly. but only slightly :hmph:

 

[CptStern]

i wouldnt be surprised if youve seen al-jazeera (hate murder terrorist recruitment news channel)

like i said, your entitled to your view, as i am of mine. youve changed my view slightly. but only slightly :hmph:

you frustrate me to no end ...first you go on and on about media bias then you do exactly the same thing ..al jazeera is not a terrorist recruitment channel

 

[RabidMeatloaf]

This thread has gone WAAAAAYYY off topic. Kind of funny, actually.

Anyway, I figure Bush's approval rating will be down to like 25 percent by the end of the year (if things keep going the way they're going)

 

[Cole]

You know...for a while now..I simply havn't even been paying attention to Bush.....the only channel for my news is The Daily Show(Comedy Central).......

 

[seinfeldrules]

..but that's only a small part of it and I do try to read as many sources/viewpoints as possible

I would really love to hear what opposing viewpoints you read.

 

[Absinthe]

you frustrate me to no end ...first you go on and on about media bias then you do exactly the same thing ..al jazeera is not a terrorist recruitment channel

Never mind him. He just repeats the same refuted talking points again and again.

 

[CptStern]

I would really love to hear what opposing viewpoints you read.

well for starters I've read everything you've thrown my way ...can you say the same?

 

[seinfeldrules]

well for starters I've read everything you've thrown my way ...can you say the same?

Yes I do. I really am curious as to which sources you read that are opposite to democraticundgerground.com and commondreams.org.

 

[CptStern]

you name it I've read it at some point or other

and I dont believe for a second you read (in it's entirity) everything I post ..if you did you wouldnt continue to support the war

 

[seinfeldrules]

and I dont believe for a second you read (in it's entirity) everything I post ..if you did you wouldnt continue to support the war

ahahaha you really are an arrogant one stern. I'm just not a lemming like others on this board.

you name it I've read it at some point or other

Well, what ones do you commonly read to counteract the other sites I mentioned?

 

[CptStern]

ahahaha you really are an arrogant one stern.

how am I being arrogant? because I post indisputable evidence? I didnt write the US declassified documents ..I just posted them

I'm just not a lemming like others on this board.

I cant begin to tell you how incredibly ironic that statement is ..you are the epitome of a lemming

Well, what ones do you commonly read to counteract the other sites I mentioned?

what the hell are you talking about? who reads an article then digs up something that contradicts it? ...so for every article on how civilians are being blown up to kingdom come I'm supposed to find an article that says that the civilans in iraq are all peachy keen and everything is a-ok? ...I wonder if you meet up to your own standards

 

[KoreBolteR]

i PMSL at stern and seinfeld arguing....ROFL!

 

[seinfeldrules]

what the hell are you talking about? who reads an article then digs up something that contradicts it? ...so for every article on how civilians are being blown up to kingdom come I'm supposed to find an article that says that the civilans in iraq are all peachy keen and everything is a-ok? ...I wonder if you meet up to your own standards

So you are saying that you dont read from various sources. You read commondreams.org and those other sites and stick with that. You dont visit 'right' leaning sites commonly to hear the opposite perspective. I'm glad we got that confusion straightened out.

how am I being arrogant? because I post indisputable evidence? I didnt write the US declassified documents ..I just posted them

Only you and your followers would think that your opinion is fact.

I cant begin to tell you how incredibly ironic that statement is ..you are the epitome of a lemming

Only in your world.

 

[CptStern]

So you are saying that you dont read from various sources. You read commondreams.org and those other sites and stick with that. You dont visit 'right' leaning sites commonly to hear the opposite perspective. I'm glad we got that confusion straightened out.

again what the hell are you talking about? I dont seek them out if that's what you're getting at, but if they're used as a counter to my argument I read it ...no actually I relish in exposing their right wing slant ...so yes I do read it ...which I'm sure is exactly what you do

Only you and your followers would think that your opinion is fact.

you make it sound like a cabal ..what followers? I dont tell people what to think I present my case, people make up their own minds, it's not like I'm a mind controller or something

actually i am ...I just havent gotten to you with my telepathy cuz you must be wearing lead underwear or something ............... :upstare:

Only in your world.

excuse me? did you not blindly follow your government into the crater that is now iraq? do you not continue to support their reasons for going even after every single last shred of justification has been proven either

1. an outright lie
2. sexed up
3. or just completely wrong




btw ...why are we talking about me? why does every debate resort to me justifying why I'm not anti-american, or communist or a freedom hater? this is like a broken record with you ..cant stomach the message so you shoot the messenger

 

[seinfeldrules]

did you not blindly follow your government into the crater that is now iraq?

Blindly? No. I listened to the CIA, MI5 (or 6 whatever it is), and the Russian Intel. They (the leading intelligence agencies in the world) all came to the same conclusions. I also came to my conclusion based on Saddam's insane past.

again what the hell are you talking about? I dont seek them out if that's what you're getting at, but if they're used as a counter to my argument I read it ...no actually I relish in exposing their right wing slant ...so yes I do read it ...which I'm sure is exactly what you do

......

..but that's only a small part of it and I do try to read as many sources/viewpoints as possible .

You say you try to read as many sources and viewpoints as possible. However, you dont read anything leaning right on a common basis? What is your idea of reading 'many viewpoints' then? You go from commondreams to democraticunderground. Wow, what a leap.