A pregnant 13-year-old girl

Absinthe said:
It's statutory rape. Take a gander as to why that is.

i said rape, not statutory rape, abs :upstare:

kirovman said:
Sorry, I'm just begging the hypothetical point.

Yes there are girls who look older, but it's a bit dubious at best, so yes there are some sickos out there. Who should take the majority of the responsibility, rather than a 13 year old from an orphanage.

Also:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=statutory rape

It legally is statutory rape. Jail for that guy (if they can find him).

im just saying that if some sick guy does sleep with a 13 yr old girl, its not rape.

'statutory' rape is completely different.. thats why they have different meanings in the dictionary....

thats just my opinion, at least we agree on him deserving to go to jail. :thumbs:
 
KoreBolteR said:
im just saying that if some sick guy does sleep with a 13 yr old girl, its not rape.

'statutory' rape is completely different.. thats why they have different meanings in the dictionary....

thats just my opinion, at least we agree on him deserving to go to jail. :thumbs:

I know they're not exactly the same thing, I just think one is almost as bad as the other.
 
kirovman said:
I know they're not exactly the same thing, I just think one is almost as bad as the other.

i suppose they both are a crime... but its the way its done imo.

murder is different to manslaughter
 
Statutory rape is still rape. You're only attempting to downplay it.
 
Absinthe said:
Statutory rape is still rape. You're only attempting to downplay it.

no i think they are both crimes.

but they both are done differently, like murder and manslaughter.

would somebody who thought murder and manslaughter were the same, be right?

its exactly the same as 'statutory rape' and 'rape' i reckon...
 
Are they different? Yes. Are they still rape? Yes. It's just a different method or form that leads to the same thing.

Manslaughter and murder are different, but it's still the killing of another human being.
 
Absinthe said:
Manslaughter and murder are different, but it's still the killing of another human being.

so should they both get the same jail sentence as you think statutory rape and rape should get?
 
I never said they should. I was disagreeing with the notion that statutory rape isn't really rape.
 
Absinthe said:
I never said they should. I was disagreeing with the notion that statutory rape isn't really rape.
what is statutory rape?
 
When somebody above the age of consent has sex with somebody below the age of consent.
 
PickledGecko said:
Sex with a 13 year old girl is NOT consensual!

Sex with a 13 year old girl is RAPE.

It's not her "mistake", she is a VICTIM.

Youre an idiot dude.. 13 year old girls have been known to have consentual sex with another guy her age or a little older..
 
C-O-N-Spiracy said:
Youre an idiot dude.. 13 year old girls have been known to have consentual sex with another guy her age or a little older..

It's still not classified as consentual, and it's still classified as statutory rape.

And please refrain from the personal insults. It doesn't somehow magically validate your arguement.
 
kirovman said:
It's still not classified as consentual, and it's still classified as statutory rape.

And please refrain from the personal insults. It doesn't somehow magically validate your arguement.
how is that a statutory rape, the guy is the same age
 
iyfyoufhl said:
how is that a statutory rape, the guy is the same age

In my country it is. Or was when I last checked. But it's not an offence looked into as seriously as an older guy doing it.
 
Statutory
1. Of or relating to a statute.
2. Enacted, regulated, or authorized by statute.

Essentially it is “rape” under law. Rape may mean forcing a person to have sex, but under law, if you have sex with someone under the age of the age of consent, the law sees it as rape. That is what is meant by “statutory”. In the same way as “date rape” may involve drugs to incapacitate the victim and stop her from resisting or saying no, it is still rape, just a different method.

And when it comes to the “what if a 13 year old boy and a 13 year old girl have sex” question, it depends on the law. Here in the UK the boy would be considered a rapist, something that has never been logical to me. If a 13 year old boy is not responsible for his actions under law if he has sex with a 30 year old woman, why would he suddenly gain responsibility when having sex with a 13 year old girl?

The simple fact is, regardless of whether you want to make distinctions about the severity of rape, statutory rape and date rape, the law still says very clearly, a 13 year old girl is not capable of consenting to sex. It is not her fault that she got pregnant and if you are arguing that it is, then you are arguing that the legal age limit should come down to 13. If that is the case, start a poll and see how much support you get.
 
Another factor would be the mind-set of the girl. When you are that age, you want to know more of what it's like, and experiment, than focusing on the bigger safety issues of waiting.
 
In my State, both 13 year old participants would be arrested, but usually only if their parents pursued a complaint.
 
you know, i don't really care about that 13 year old, shit like this happens everyday
 
ModerateCentrist said:
Immaturity does not give one the right to murder other children and babies.
Let her choose, it's her body/baby.
 
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