A question to you smokers: why?

Cocaine probably makes you feel awesome. Apparently feeling awesome is the only virtue, here.
 
I think smoking's a pretty cool guy. Eh kills lungs and doesn't afraid of anycancer.
 
TechnoHippyChick is like the W4d5y of cigarettes.
 
sinkoman said:
If you've never had a cigarette before, then I want you to call up one of your buddies that smokes, bum a cig off of him, take a couple of drags, and tell me that you don't feel awesome afterwards.
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That's the 'weak-ass shitty dummy buzz' I mentioned earlier :)
 
Dog-- said:
That's the 'weak-ass shitty dummy buzz' I mentioned earlier :)
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So like... a step up from being sober?

The government with all its anti-smoking commercials are the ones who actually ****ing control the cigarette companies... and look at which ADDITIVES are APPROVED by the government in cigarettes: http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

These 599 chemicals, although known to be harmful were APPROVED by the government - the same government which spews out all these anti-smoking laws and advertisements. They include all the most harmful chemicals like butane and cyanide and all of that shit.

Take a look at this website: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-tabac/index_e.html government organization "Health Canada", they are against the same products which they help make more deadly and addictive? hmm???

I wouldn't be surprised if of the 51 carcinogenic chemicals 49 of them are actually just approved additives.
 
Maybe 1/4 step, if that.

When people first smoke they get that weak dummy buzz, and usually if you smoke cigs you haven't smoked any weed or drank (hardcore) or anything like that before, so you'd think it's more intense then it is, and you'd want more. After that it's usually just VERY weak, and you don't even get the dummy buzz anymore, but you get your nicotine fix, that's when you know you've become addicted.

You'd be better off just smoking crack, snorting some coke, or just smoking some good old fashioned opium from your opium pipe.
 
Though I am not a smoker myself, the OPs question is very easy to answer: Alcohal -you don't drink it because you want a bad headache or in extreme cases a liver cirroscis. Same prinicple here, smokers know the consequences, but they smoke for pleasure, not because they WANT black lungs.
 
Dog-- said:
Maybe 1/4 step, if that.

When people first smoke they get that weak dummy buzz, and usually if you smoke cigs you haven't smoked any weed or drank (hardcore) or anything like that before, so you'd think it's more intense then it is, and you'd want more. After that it's usually just VERY weak, and you don't even get the dummy buzz anymore, but you get your nicotine fix, that's when you know you've become addicted.

You'd be better off just smoking crack, snorting some coke, or just smoking some good old fashioned opium from your opium pipe.
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Are you ****ing kidding me, I smoked like 7 bowls tonight, and had like, 4 beers, and 2 cigs, and I STILL love cigarettes when i'm sober.

I dunno, maybe it's because I barely ever smoke cigs...
 
All this thread has succeeded in is making me want a cigarette.

/quits quitting
 
Cormeh said:
All this thread has succeeded in is making me want a cigarette.

/quits quitting
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I should probably slow the **** down.

I've smoked almost every day of the week so far since last Friday...
 
After me and my family have been trying to get my grandma off cigarettes because it had degraded her mental and physical state to something atrocious I will sit high and smug and say smoking is ****ing stupid. I feel sorry for my grandma, because I bet she started with the whole "It's my own health, I can do what I like". Yeah, great, alright, back then. She regrets it now. Bet she didn't realise her future family would be stressing and panicking, attempting to remedy her health and addiction.

Yes, this is only my case but I've seen it happen to others (including other relatives too, my grandma smoking wasn't a good role model for my uncle). The smokers on this forum might not ever come into this situation, perhaps because they socially smoke or they have good control over their addiction. Good for you, some smokers don't. And it's amazing how it could be so easily avoided.
 
What i think that is nastier than cigarettes is dip. That is just plain nasty. It is like an epidemic at my school. And the jerks that use it spit that crap back in to the bleachers where other people sit and even spit it onto the gym floor. And i hate it when smokers just throw their cigarettes anywhere because they think they can. Can you not walk the extra distance to put it in a trash can or one of those disposer things?
 
To continue my rant. I think that people who go in with the attitude of "It's my health, my self-destruction, my choice" are rather narrow minded. It won't apply to all smokers, but I bet a lot with that attitude started smoking and then unwittingly caused younger siblings, friends or younger children (think about it, a grade 8 arrives at high school and sees the grade 12s smoking and looking pretty cool, then takes it up themselves, sadly a case that happens a lot) to start smoking as well. And yes, the original smoker might take it in moderation, but the ones they indirectly influenced may not be so strong minded.

So smokers can:

a) put themselves on a path of self-destruction.
b) indirectly put others on a path of self-destruction.
c) cause grief and stress to other family members/friends if they become ill from the effects.

Optional, minor point:
d) just plain irritate the public with it.

And you wonder why people get anal about it.

Really is just an extension of what I briefly outlined in the original post. I bet someone is going to go with the rebuttal of "same applies to alcohol and drugs". This is true. But I believe smoking is worse than either of the two. Drugs being less commercially accessible and alcohol being a lesser addiction.
 
This thread now has a smoking section.

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Don't worry, it's seperately ventilated.
 
That pic reeks of bad breath, bad teeth, bad gums, and cancer.
 
Air breathers are not allowed to breathe their air within 20 feet of the smoking section.
 
I smoke occasionally because it's fun. I drink, toke, trip, rail, drop, and parachute for the same reason. Everybody who cares can go f*ck themselves :)
 
Zephos said:
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I refuse to take responsibility for somebody else's decision to start smoking, influence or peer pressure be damned. Especially with the health risks associated with it being common knowledge that's taught in schools. It is their own decision to make, and if they find the temptation to look cool or whatever hard to resist, then that's just something they'll have to deal with. Such is life.
 
This thread is basically a circle-jerk orgy of self-righteousness. None of the anti-smoker people are listening at all. In other words, it's rocketing towards a close because the level of unreasonable, condescending intolerance here is almost trollish.
 
This thread is just like the drug threads posted here, yet those go on forever until Munro puts the hammer down.
 
This thread is basically a circle-jerk orgy of self-righteousness. None of the anti-smoker people are listening at all. In other words, it's rocketing towards a close because the level of unreasonable, condescending intolerance here is almost trollish.
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If I may quote a typical smoker response...


Everybody who cares can go f*ck themselves :)
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Goes both ways.

I would try and listen more but its hard with your second hand BO getting in my clothes, overwhelming my sense of smell, getting in my eyes, making me cough, generally lowering the quality of my air, and your bad habit putting me off wanting to be in the same room as you.


I don't care if you want to kill yourself TBH, though theres faster more efficient means. I just don't want you involving me in your own poor life choices. I like Coca Cola, I drink tons of it and I like it. Is that much Cola good for my health?, probably not. Am I hacking and coughing up, stinking up a room, poisoning the shared air inside said room while doing it?. Nope.

As Smokers, whether you like it or not, you have chosen a habit which is considered he height of poor social manners, its the most immediately effectual on others around you and just downright repulsive.


Self rightiousnss?...If that makes you feel better, but it dosn;t hange the fact your bad habit is no better then someone coming in smelling nasty, giving off a haze of poison and BO, the only difference is you could remedy it by not smoking.



But thats not the point, again, your choice, and I have smoker mates, they take it outside, or do it in private in their own home, great, all I really want from smokers is a bit of consideration for others, and many, if not most, can and do take account of that, so no beef.

But I have no love for inconsiderate smokers.



But this is all wastd breath anyway, in the UK we have restrictions on where smokers can light up in public places. The quality of restaurants have skyrocketed if only because the waft of poison from smoking sections don't ruin the dining experience. Pubs are now not completely fogged up enclosed spaces smelling like god knows what.


So yeah, live and let live, but I cant and wont pretend I don't think smoking is a nasty habit, nor do I think its even moral (smoking around kids, the general poor manners of doing it around others in general).
 
As Smokers, whether you like it or not, you have chosen a habit which is considered he height of poor social manners, its the most immediately effectual on others around you and just downright repulsive.
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PUGH-LEEEZ, skip sweeping generalization stuff.

I, for one, NEVER smoke around non-smokers. They, indeed, did not consent to smelling the smoke and might feel uncomfortable. But I like the company of smokers who smoke the same cigars I do.
 
Damn i want Cigarette... I do something else too, called snus. Its awesome, tobaco under your lip.
I know a a guy, non smoker whos breath smells like sewer. I mean, i don't go around telling him to stop brush his teeth with shit.
I am also a hardcore walker. I walk everywere pretty much. I dont key peoples cars, becouse they ruin my fresh air, and accusing them for polluting the planet.

Get of your high horse and share a cigarette with someone and let people be people.
 
nurizeko said:
As Smokers, whether you like it or not, you have chosen a habit which is considered he height of poor social manners, its the most immediately effectual on others around you and just downright repulsive.
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Which is why people smoke at parties, right?

****, if anything, smoking can end up being the catalyst to a social bond.

Bumming cigs, giving off a drag, killing your butts, SOCIAL MUTHA****A!
 
nurizeko said:
If I may quote a typical smoker response...




Goes both ways.

I would try and listen more but its hard with your second hand BO getting in my clothes, overwhelming my sense of smell, getting in my eyes, making me cough, generally lowering the quality of my air, and your bad habit putting me off wanting to be in the same room as you.


I don't care if you want to kill yourself TBH, though theres faster more efficient means. I just don't want you involving me in your own poor life choices. I like Coca Cola, I drink tons of it and I like it. Is that much Cola good for my health?, probably not. Am I hacking and coughing up, stinking up a room, poisoning the shared air inside said room while doing it?. Nope.

As Smokers, whether you like it or not, you have chosen a habit which is considered he height of poor social manners, its the most immediately effectual on others around you and just downright repulsive.


Self rightiousnss?...If that makes you feel better, but it dosn;t hange the fact your bad habit is no better then someone coming in smelling nasty, giving off a haze of poison and BO, the only difference is you could remedy it by not smoking.



But thats not the point, again, your choice, and I have smoker mates, they take it outside, or do it in private in their own home, great, all I really want from smokers is a bit of consideration for others, and many, if not most, can and do take account of that, so no beef.

But I have no love for inconsiderate smokers.



But this is all wastd breath anyway, in the UK we have restrictions on where smokers can light up in public places. The quality of restaurants have skyrocketed if only because the waft of poison from smoking sections don't ruin the dining experience. Pubs are now not completely fogged up enclosed spaces smelling like god knows what.


So yeah, live and let live, but I cant and wont pretend I don't think smoking is a nasty habit, nor do I think its even moral (smoking around kids, the general poor manners of doing it around others in general).
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I couldn't put it better myself :)
 
nurizeko said:
But thats not the point, again, your choice, and I have smoker mates, they take it outside, or do it in private in their own home, great, all I really want from smokers is a bit of consideration for others, and many, if not most, can and do take account of that, so no beef.

But I have no love for inconsiderate smokers.
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Well, these kinds of threads would go a lot better if the non-smokers didn't automatically talk down to us as such.

Maybe smokers wouldn't be so hostile in response if you didn't immediately act like assholes.

Considering many people do light up in social situations - and it is in fact generally considered normal to do so - maybe it's not so much poor social manners as much as it is you being the exception.
 
Krynn72 said:
I just find it strange that people dont think its just weird. I mean, all those other things are just an excess of normal activities. Eating is normal, so eating too much/junk isnt that much of a stretch. Drinking stuff is normal, so drinking alcoholic beverages isnt much of a stretch either. Neither is spending unusual amounts of time on the computer. But inhaling smoke from a tiny stick?
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When you put it that way, it does sound kind of dumb. :D "Smoking through a tiny stick", heh.

Native Americans used to smoke tobacco through their noses just in case you thought smoking couldn't get any weirder. That's how tobacco got it's name. The pipes the native Americans used were called tobaccu pipes. No joke. :)

On a side note, I used to smoke, but I quit three years ago because I was concerned for my long-term health. My mother's got COPD because of smoking and she can barely climb the stairs in our house anymore because of it. I witnessed what it can do in the long run.

I can see Ennui's point though. Blasting others for smoking when clearly everyone has a skeleton or two in their closet (some more obscene than others) is just wrong. :p
 
sinkoman said:
Which is why people smoke at parties, right?

****, if anything, smoking can end up being the catalyst to a social bond.

Bumming cigs, giving off a drag, killing your butts, SOCIAL MUTHA****A!
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Parties aren't really known for their exacting standards in mannerism.
 
Public smokers are some of my least favourite real life people. I'm okay with people who go slowly kill themeselves away from those who would otherwise have to smell the smoke, but those who do it among non-smokers, please, go kill yourselves.
 
sinkoman said:
Which is why people smoke at parties, right?

****, if anything, smoking can end up being the catalyst to a social bond.

Bumming cigs, giving off a drag, killing your butts, SOCIAL MUTHA****A!
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That's a pretty shitty basis for a friend. What happens when the other guy quits? ****IN' OVER.
 
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