Abortion - Should it be legal?

[Lil' Timmy]

i'll take the first definition

 

[Yakuza]

yes but she can live a relatively normal life being deaf. Deafness is somewhat curable: severe autism is not. I've met kids who cant speak, move, eat, breathe on their own ...life is extremely hard for them, given a choice I'm not sure they would choose to live ...I had an old student who wouldnt live past the age of 20 (sadly he's probably dead now) and he knew that he was going to die, in his worst moments he often wished he wasnt born

I know what your saying, and i agree to an extent, but we have to draw the line at were we start ending life at the possibilty that they might have problems in life. For the sake of all children and not just the minority.

Its crazy too because my life has been changed by some of these kinds of human being. Those who we would consider less fortunate on the gene scale have taught me more about life and what it means to be strong than anything else. I just dont know how my life would be if I had not had the plesure of sharing these moments with these exceptional people because some one could have abborted them because they may have not fit the scale of what we consider normal.

 

[Yakuza]

i'll take the first definition

but you cant deny the second.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

the two are contradictory, you can't accept both. besides, are you saying that you think pre-fetal embryos are ok for abortion?

 

[CptStern]

I know what your saying, and i agree to an extent, but we have to draw the line at were we start ending life at the possibilty that they might have problems in life. For the sake of all children and not just the minority.

Its crazy too because my life has been changed by some of these kinds of human being. Those who we would consider less fortunate on the gene scale have taught me more about life and what it means to be strong than anything else. I just dont know how my life would be if I had not had the plesure of sharing these moments with these exceptional people because some one could have abborted them because they may have not fit the scale of what we consider normal.

I think we're talking about seperate issues here: you are referring to Eugenics whereas I'm talking about preventing a life from pain and misery ...I dont think we should selectively abort fetus that are not considered "normal" but rather terminating a pregancy that there is 100% surety that the child will have a life filled with pain and misery

 

[Immortal]

Children anf feotus are most definately not the same thing, if i was to say something about a child insted of a feotus it would be marked wrong in a an exam. ;(

 

[Yakuza]

I think we're talking about seperate issues here: you are referring to Eugenics whereas I'm talking about preventing a life from pain and misery ...I dont think we should selectively abort fetus that are not considered "normal" but rather terminating a pregancy that there is 100% surety that the child will have a life filled with pain and misery

I dont think that there are 100%'s , but I understand what you are saying.

 

[CptStern]

I dont think that there are 100%'s , but I understand what you are saying.

ya there isnt 100%'s unless you do the whole gamut of testing but sometimes that is more harmful


see ...we agree for a change :E ...well sort of

 

[Yakuza]

ya there isnt 100%'s unless you do the whole gamut of testing but sometimes that is more harmful


see ...we agree for a change :E ...well sort of

:cheers:

 

[JimmehH]

the chances are quite high that it will survive and have no health problems after the 24 th week (my son was born at 24 weeks - 3 pounds ...a bit larger than my hand) ...your likelihood of complications grows the more premature it is but it doesnt mean a full term baby cant be born without complications

That's what I said...

After 24 weeks the lungs are developed enough for the baby to breath on its own and the heart is functioning. With a lot of care there is a very good chance of that baby surviving and having no problems.

Before the lungs develop enough the chances drop significantly though.