Abortion - Should it be legal?

[Biozeminade]

Searched, didn't find a poll that asked this. I'm not gonna start a discussion, I just want to see the poll results.

 

[qckbeam]

Yes, yes it should

 

[DoctorGordon]

Of course, we dont need any more people on the planet, its over-populated as it is.

 

[ShadowFox]

Yes, it should be legal.

Should it be payed for by the government? No.

 

[Vigilante]

Yeah it should be. And I'm a republican too.

 

[Neutrino]

Yes, I think it should be legal, but with certain restrictions in place. I think the idea of when human life really starts is pretty much arbitrary, but there of course has to be a limit somewhere. An abortion at 8 months would not be right to make an obvious example.

 

[slicktick]

No I dont think it should be legal, that is unless it is very early and is endangering the mothers life, so that both baby and mother would die if you didnt have one. I believe it is life the moment of conception.

 

[B.Calhoun]

Yes, I think it should be legal, but with certain restrictions in place. I think the idea of when human life really starts is pretty much arbitrary, but there of course has to be a limit somewhere. An abortion at 8 months would not be right to make an obvious example.

hmmm good point at 8 months its not really ummm..ethical.

But for mostly anyother reason i definatly think it should be legal.

 

[DoctorGordon]

No I dont think it should be legal, that is unless it is very early and is endangering the mothers life, so that both baby and mother would die if you didnt have one. I believe it is life the moment of conception.

What about all the sperm, they are part of 'life' yet they have to die.

 

[blahblahblah]

Yes, I'm going to post my unpopular views in this thread and loose all chance of passing my mid-term tommorow. Yay!

 

[DoctorGordon]

Yes, I'm going to post my unpopular views in this thread and loose all chance of passing my mid-term tommorow. Yay!

You should fail

 

[Shuzer]

What about all the sperm, they are part of 'life' yet they have to die.

There's a difference, sperm are constantly er.. "regenerated." Besides, you lose sperm anyway.. not much you can do about it

 

[redundant]

Oops, I thought it said 'illegal' and voted no. :rolling:

 

[qckbeam]

You should fail

A bit touchy are we......sun-worshipper!

 

[Steelwind]

Isn't it already legal? And yes I feel it should stick around. Sometimes I disagree with the reasoning behind the abortion, but that's not my call to make.

 

[outpost]

Yes, I think it should be legal, but with certain restrictions in place. I think the idea of when human life really starts is pretty much arbitrary, but there of course has to be a limit somewhere. An abortion at 8 months would not be right to make an obvious example.

That how I think it should be.

 

[Alientank]

Legal only if it risks the mothers life, or the mother was raped. If you're going to have sex, take the consequences that go with it, you know them going into it. It's not fair to the child.

 

[DoctorGordon]

A bit touchy are we......sun-worshipper!

No, he just really needs to rethink life.

And no, I hate the sun, I'm a night person. Yet i respect its importance.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

It'd be great if it could be fully illegal, but due to rape and such or if the mother is going to die, I guess it'd need to be allowed for those cases.

But the baby does have a right to live, anyone who denies this is a bit messed up in the head. The mother does have a choice- she chose to become pregnant, and she doesn't have to raise it, there is adoption. Anyone who aborts a baby who was not raped or is not in danger themselves from it is a sick individual.

//Edit: I voted for no before seeing the third option- so add a vote to number 3 and subtract one from 2. Either way two and three could sort of be combined.. sort of

 

[blahblahblah]

No, he just really needs to rethink life.

• DRD Deduction – The DRD generally is 70 percent of the dividends received from taxable corporations. However, a corporation that owns at least 20 percent – but less than 80 percent – of the dividend-paying stock is allowed to deduct 80 percent of the dividends received. In additions, members of an affiliated group are allowed to deduct 100 percent of the dividends that are received from another member of the same group. A group of corporation is considered affiliated when at least 80 percent of the stock of each corporation is owned by other members of the group.
o The 70 (80) percent DRD may not exceed 70 (80) percent of the corporation’s taxable income computed without the deduction for dividends-received, NOL, and capital loss carry backs. However, if the DRD adds to or creates a NOL for the current year, the 70 percent of taxable income limitation does not apply.
 In the unlikely event a corporation receives dividends subject to both the 70 and 80 percent rules; a special procedure must be followed. First the 80 percent limitation is applied by treating the 70 percent dividends as other income. The 70 percent limitation is then applied by treating the 80 percent dividends as if they had not been received.
o In addition, unless a corporation has held the stock for more than 45 days during an 80 day period (beginning 45 before the ex-dividend date) before its sale or other disposition, any dividends received will not be eligible for DRD.
o If a corporation receives an extraordinary dividend within the first two years that stock is owned, the basis of the stock must be reduced by the nontaxable portion of the dividend (but not below zero). When the nontaxable portion exceeds the stock’s basis, the excess is included in income in the year the dividend is received. An extraordinary dividend generally is any dividend that equals or exceeds 10 percent of the taxpayer’s basis of common stock, or 5 percent of the basis of preferred stock. If the taxpayer can prove the value of the stock, the taxpayer can use such value instead of basis to determine if the dividend is extraordinary.
o Corporations can not used borrowed money (through debt or financed stockholder transactions) to purchase dividend paying stock. The DRD limit is automatically 70% and 100% minus the average indebtedness percentage (average unpaid indebtedness for the period by the stock’s adjusted basis).

That is one of fourty IRS code sections I need to memorize and fully understand by tommorow night. I'm not some 13 year old kid that you can treat me like crap.

 

[Neutrino]

Legal only if it risks the mothers life, or the mother was raped. If you're going to have sex, take the consequences that go with it, you know them going into it. It's not fair to the child.

What about the situation in which the man's condom unknowningly breaks and the woman's birth control pills fail to work? It's happened.

 

[qckbeam]

What exactly has blah done to you DoctorGordon that would justify acting like an ass towards him? Nothing, that's what I thought.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

yes, it should be legal. such an intensely personal decision should be free of government interference in our society.

 

[Shuzer]

What about the situation in which the man's condom unknowningly breaks and the woman's birth control pills fail to work? It's happened.

Here's a thought..

Don't want the responsibility that follows sex? DON'T HAVE SEX.

It's such an insanely difficult concept to grasp, isn't it?

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

What about the situation in which the man's condom unknowningly breaks and the woman's birth control pills fail to work? It's happened.

Adoption

yes, it should be legal. such an intensely personal decision should be free of government interference in our society.

What about the baby's right to live? Should someone be free to kill you without government interference? I am against the government being into people's lives in the least, but in the case it isn't there to "restrict" the mother- it is there to protect the child.

 

[Neutrino]

Here's a thought..

Don't want the responsibility that follows sex? DON'T HAVE SEX.

It's such an insanely difficult concept to grasp, isn't it?

I don't actually. It was just a question.

 

[Shuzer]

Sorry, I'm just sick and tired of hearing these excuses behind abortion.

It should send a serious signal to people.. perhaps you're not supposed to have sex with every last member of the opposite sex you meet? Perhaps it's supposed to MEAN something! Perhaps, it's supposed to be a thing of love, and procreation! Oh wait, nope. There go my morals again..

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Make them legal, and if you're morally opposed don't have one. Simple as that, really.

The current system is fine, except for all the extreme pro-life people bombing clinics and perpetuating a philosophy of shame. Stupid terrorists.

 

[qckbeam]

I personally don't agree with abortion. However I'm not about to strip someone of the right to have one if they really feel it is neccesary, or if it's neccesary for medical reasons.

 

[AntiAnto]

Yes. One word: liberty

 

[Lil' Timmy]

i don't know.. stuffing more unwanted children into this world to starve and suffer does sound like a pretty good idea..

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Yes. One word: liberty

Where's the liberty of the child?

 

[AntiAnto]

Where's the liberty of the child?

At this stage, the baby is not considered like a child... but more like a mass of cells.

 

[dfc05]

It'd be great if it could be fully illegal, but due to rape and such or if the mother is going to die, I guess it'd need to be allowed for those cases.

But the baby does have a right to live, anyone who denies this is a bit messed up in the head. The mother does have a choice- she chose to become pregnant, and she doesn't have to raise it, there is adoption. Anyone who aborts a baby who was not raped or is not in danger themselves from it is a sick individual.

//Edit: I voted for no before seeing the third option- so add a vote to number 3 and subtract one from 2. Either way two and three could sort of be combined.. sort of

That's what I think too. If it came up as a personal issue, I'd say no in all cases. As a legal issue, I say yes only in certain cases. The more I think about it, the more wrong it seems.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Oh dear...I clicked yes by accident.

I wouldn't want anyone I know to get an abortion...especially the men.

But seriously, I really just wish people wouldn't get pregnant in the first palce. Whether its their fault or not, I just would like for once for this to not even be an issue.

 

[Biozeminade]

You people must be from Florida... IT'S EASY TO VOTE!

 

[AntiAnto]

I was just wondering... for the people that said no to abortion, if a girl get raped and get pregnant, what would you say? yes or no to abortion in this case?

EDIT: I see that a lot of people answered my question before I posted it. :dozey:

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

At this stage, the baby is not considered like a child... but more like a mass of cells.

See, personally I just find this train of thought disgusting and somewhat simply cold. Not insulting you personally or anything, or calling you a name, but that's just how it seems to me x.x I consider it a child. It's an unborn human.

 

[qckbeam]

EDIT: I see that a lot of people answered my question before I posted it. :dozey:

The boards are known for their strong psychic population

 

[blahblahblah]

EDIT: I see that a lot of people answered my question before I posted it.:dozey:

The boards are known for their strong psychic population