American beheaded in Iraq

[Epyon]

http://www.cnn.com/ ........

First the people from iraq capture the us soldiers and they torture them, then we start to, humilate there captured soldiers. The, the iraqis get all pissed becuase of that, and says that doing that is just wrong, then, they turn around, and cut off the head of a us contractor, i think he was, becuase they wanted revenge. You know what, i dont give a crap anymore if those soldiers are tortureing there iraqi prisoner, they deserve it. That might sound mean and sick, but seriously, if they are going to torture and kill our prisionars, then why cant we torture theirs?

 

[Edcrab]

Because, and this is a much bigger issue than most people think, we're meant to be better than them. We want to be seen as the liberators, not Saddam's replacements, but what does that matter?

 

[The Mullinator]

Because its best to try and be the bigger man. Although some may see it as unfair that Americans can't do the same to Iraq's the fact is that even if the whole of the US didn't object then it would still be a bad idea since the Iraq's would just get even more pissed off.

The people who beheaded the guy were probably planning on doing it anyway, prison tortures or not. They are probably just using that as an excuse.

 

[Dedalus]

that's truly disgusting. i saw it on the news while i was eating my dinner, couldn't eat anything afterwards.

i love the way those fat f*cking politicians are sitting on their fat f*cking arses and putting a spin on the whole god damn F*CKING THING. F*CK YOU AND YOUR F*CKING POLITICS. YOUR F*CKING PEOPLE ARE DYING AND IT'S YOUR BIG FAT F*CKING FAULT AND NO-ONE ELSES.

god damn that's really got me ****ing riled up. next politician i hear spouting off i'm gonna find out where they live and beat them to ****ing death. someone loses their life, and it's bad as it is, but it's the way it happened too, and all they can do is point fingers.

i bloody hope john titor was right. things need to change.

 

[moz4rt]

This really got to me today. I mean, these guys hacked at this American's neck with a big knife. It took 30 seconds to sever the whole thing. I can't imagine what that guy went through.

 

[mortiz]

It's really bad. The fact that it was posted on a website for the whole world to see just makes it worse.

One can only hope that something like this doesn't happen to anymore prisoners in Iraq.

 

[Xtasy0]

someone is going to be suing rockstar over Manhunt ;x

 

[Jackal hit]

It's really bad. The fact that it was posted on a website for the whole world to see just makes it worse.

One can only hope that something like this doesn't happen to anymore prisoners in Iraq.

wow, compared to the "humiliation" of the iraqi prisoners, this is nothing... or at least, that's what the iraqi terrorists are saying. i wonder if the militant iraqis ever thought of what would happen if the US left immediately after they brought down the saddam regime. but then again, i guess they DO like chaos and anarchy.

i just hope the iraqi sovereignty handover on june 30 goes smoothly.

edit: heh on a side note, i think control of the middle east should be given over to the turks. that would shut up the terrorist f*ckers. turks are ruthless when they chase terrorists. just like when they went after the asshole kurdish leader ocalan... but noooo the EU tries to scare turkey into treating ocalan humanely. f*ck that bullshit.

 

[mortiz]

When this conflict comes to an end, I hope that both the Iraq and Coalition forces responsible for these lewd acts against prisoners are brought to justice.

 

[PvtRyan]

http://www.cnn.com/ ........
if they are going to torture and kill our prisionars, then why cant we torture theirs?

Because you're actually trying to be better than them?

I'm really curious in how the Iraq situation is going to end.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

This is more complex than lots of people think.



Oh and I really really cant stand it when people view an Americans life as more important than an iraqi life. I really cant.

I will leave you to debate that while I sleep.

Bye bye

 

[qckbeam]

A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting ``Allahu akbar!'' - ``God is great!'' They then held the head up to the camera.

"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way.''

I'm sickened by them, but I'm even more sickened by the way they committed it in the name of god.
Religion...giving people reasons to kill each other since the beginning of time...****ing ridiculous.

 

[Kadayi]

Stuff like this really makes wonder whether there is any point in even attempting to sit down and discuss issues in a reasonable manner in the middle east. If a society is so backward in its thinking that the slaughter of innocents is seen as a legitimate means to bring about a resolution, I'm not entirely sure there is a place for them at any civilised table.

 

[mortiz]

In the words of the great John Lennon:

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
---------------------
Life would be much simpler if the above was the case.

 

[thehunter1320]

eraser found the video and i watched.... the human race has gone back to a barbaric state of mind, as today proves...

 

[Kadayi]

Because you're actually trying to be better than them?

I'm really curious in how the Iraq situation is going to end.

At this rate, I'd say with the entire middle east being irradiated for a thousand years....

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Damn it why did I have to refresh that one last time...


Well, I agree, religion should never be used as an excuse for violence.

I mean from what I know of friends who are muslims, they are tought to be peacefull. That violence doesnt solve anything and that there are better ways to deal with situations.

I just thought I would point out that Islam is not actually a violent religion. But I am on the other hand starting to think that there are some trully stupid and powercrazy people that are preaching the faith. I dont mean offence to Islam by that in anyway. But I cant stand these people that use God as an excuse for their own fundimentalist views.

 

[Jackal hit]

A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting ``Allahu akbar!'' - ``God is great!'' They then held the head up to the camera.

"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way.''

I'm sickened by them, but I'm even more sickened by the way they committed it in the name of god.
Religion...giving people reasons to kill each other since the beginning of time...****ing ridiculous.

totally agreed, man. ever since the invention of religion, people have been given excuse to do insane things through their insane beliefs. by the way... jesus died around 33 A.D.(give or take a couple years, supposedly) . mohammed started preaching around 622 A.D. right? so, developmentally, islam is now the same age as christianity, about the years 1400/1500 or so, depending on when you think christianity became a full religion. what happened around then? oh, little thing called the inquisition, with plenty of sickening disgusting things carried out in the name of religion. so don't give me this crap about one religion's fanatics being better than another religion's fanatics.

 

[mortiz]

eraser found the video and i watched.... the human race has gone back to a barbaric state of mind, as today proves...

I don't know if I want to see that video, watching someone beheaded for real isn't exactly something I would ever wish to see.

 

[The Mullinator]

I'm sickened by them, but I'm even more sickened by the way they committed it in the name of god.
Religion...giving people reasons to kill each other since the beginning of time...****ing ridiculous.

Thats why am an atheist. :E

Oh and I really really cant stand it when people view an Americans life as more important than an iraqi life. I really cant.

Its natural for human beings to care more for the life of someone who is closer to themselves. Thats why Iraqi's cheer alot of the time that American soldiers are killed, thats why people in the US aren't so upset when they see Iraqi's being killed. Its natural.

It may sicken you, but it really shouldn't come as any surprise that any side in the war is doing it.

Oh ya, goodnight. :cheers:

 

[Jackal hit]

I don't know if I want to see that video, watching someone beheaded for real isn't exactly something I would ever wish to see.

yeah don't do it. don't even look for the video. i saw a video once, of a beheading with a knife. but it was much closer, as in, head neck and shoulders are basically all you see. it's a horrible thing to watch ;(

 

[Death.Trap]

eraser found the video and i watched.... the human race has gone back to a barbaric state of mind, as today proves...

Not humanity; a handfull of Iraqi militants. This is really disgusting, I know that an American life is not worth more than an Iraqi's. But stuff like this makes me want to nuke them all to hell.

 

[Jackal hit]

At this rate, I'd say with the entire middle east being irradiated for a thousand years....

yeah... umm... no. most people there are completely against violence. remember, you strip away religions, and those people that are in power pushing their own agendas... and well... you're left with normal people, and people the world over are all the same as anyone else. it's the landed elites in every society/country/culture who have been f*cking the world up. not the ordinary masses.

Not humanity; a handfull of Iraqi militants. This is really disgusting, I know that an American life is not worth more than an Iraqi's. But stuff like this makes me want to nuke them all to hell.

it's not only iraqi militants. you find this sort of thing in any country that has militants. this only gets more media coverage in the western world.

 

[Death.Trap]

Oh, something that really pisses me off is how Kerry is making the prison abuse deal political. I mean, someone stripping you naked and taking pictures wouldn't be fun. But these guys aren't two years old. I know thats not the only thing that went on in there, I'm just saying.


I think it's hilarious how Kerry, who admitted to murdering and abusing innocent vietnamese during the Vietname war, somehow thinks he has the moral right to call for Rumsfeld's resignation. This man is running for president. His political positions aside, he is a complete idiot.

 

[dfc05]

Damn it why did I have to refresh that one last time...


Well, I agree, religion should never be used as an excuse for violence.

I mean from what I know of friends who are muslims, they are tought to be peacefull. That violence doesnt solve anything and that there are better ways to deal with situations.

I just thought I would point out that Islam is not actually a violent religion. But I am on the other hand starting to think that there are some trully stupid and powercrazy people that are preaching the faith. I dont mean offence to Islam by that in anyway. But I cant stand these people that use God as an excuse for their own fundimentalist views.

i agree. religions preach against murder, killing, and so forth. it's sick people that do it and use religion as their scapegoat. "i did it for my religion." heck yeah right. it's irresponsible and just plain sick to do something and a) say it's part of your religion, and b) use your "religion" to get other people to do it too. religion wasn't meant to be used to go around killing other people. i know a few muslim people and a few really christian people. nobody who really believes in their religion is going to blame their bad actions on their religion.
i think it has more to do with people's own hatred than with any kind of religion. if religion weren't there then they'd just blame something else.

 

[Pitbul]

Damn it why did I have to refresh that one last time...


Well, I agree, religion should never be used as an excuse for violence.

I mean from what I know of friends who are muslims, they are tought to be peacefull. That violence doesnt solve anything and that there are better ways to deal with situations.

I just thought I would point out that Islam is not actually a violent religion. But I am on the other hand starting to think that there are some trully stupid and powercrazy people that are preaching the faith. I dont mean offence to Islam by that in anyway. But I cant stand these people that use God as an excuse for their own fundimentalist views.

allah nore God do not condone war or murder, nore is it very rarely if ever justified. one of the reasons i believe in god is to know that there is a hell for people who start a war, and those who murder without justifications.

 

[Kadayi]

In the words of the great John Lennon:

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
---------------------
Life would be much simpler if the above was the case.

John Lennon was A V.cool dude. But unfortunately the islamic faith isn't noted for it's tolerance of other religions, especially amongst the hardliners like Osama etc. Just before 9/11 the regime in afganistan was making the headlines because they totally destroyed the sacred buddas carved into the mountains bordering India, because they were 'unholy and heretical' symbols, the indian Government offered to remove them at no cost because of their antiquity but the afgans destroyed them anyway.

 

[Lucifer Crass]

Lol, Hello Mr. Titor. To all the skeptics can you say, pwned? j/k but it makes u wonder

 

[Epyon]

yeah don't do it. don't even look for the video. i saw a video once, of a beheading with a knife. but it was much closer, as in, head neck and shoulders are basically all you see. it's a horrible thing to watch ;(

I know what video you are talking about. It was something that you dont want to watch if get sick really easily. But back on subject, im not saying that by killing or even just tortureing the prisioners will make us seems bigger, its that why the hell should we just sit back and give the iraqi prisioners food, and just plain old good care, while they put our prisioners into probably some little hole, and then taken out to get there head cut off. I just say we leave iraq, and let them all just kill eachother, they will never change.

 

[Jackal hit]

But unfortunately the islamic faith isn't noted for it's tolerance of other religions.

this is untrue. it's not the faith that is intolerant, it is the people in power. just go visit turkey sometime. that is one of the most free and open countries in the world. if you don't believe me just go visit. all religions are welcomed and allowed, the country is entirely secular, even though it is 99% muslim there. hell just go back and look at your histories. when the turks ruled the middle east (for almost 1000 years i might add), all religions were allowed. religion was never forced. just read up on the governing of the balkan region. islam was introduced but never forced. if the turks wanted to keep a stronger hold on the land they SHOULD have forced islam. go back to about 600 or 700 ad ... in the regions where syria, jordan, lebanon, isreal, are judaism, islam and christianity were all accepted. again, it's those that are in power who steer the course a people take, in the name of religion. again, i think religions are insane. (i believe in god btw)

edit: lol sorry, i've been pushing this whole turk thing this thread :|

 

[h00dlum]

Lol, Hello Mr. Titor. To all the skeptics can you say, pwned? j/k but it makes u wonder

well im starting to belive in that too ..i remember reading some article in a newspaper around 1997 about Nostradamus...and it said things like "The 2 brothers shall fall in the heart of the eagle" and "A man with a turban shall start WW3" and things like that...kinda scary

 

[Lucifer Crass]

I know what video you are talking about. It was something that you dont want to watch if get sick really easily. But back on subject, im not saying that by killing or even just tortureing the prisioners will make us seems bigger, its that why the hell should we just sit back and give the iraqi prisioners food, and just plain old good care, while they put our prisioners into probably some little hole, and then taken out to get there head cut off. I just say we leave iraq, and let them all just kill eachother, they will never change.

Because we elected Mr. Bush, the most blood stained president to date. Also, cuzz red necks are still majority in southern states, which allows people like that to be elected. The southerners used to be proud but to much inbreeding turned them into hilbilly's

 

[Jackal hit]

well im starting to belive in that too ..i remember reading some article in a newspaper around 1997 about Nostradamus...and it said things like "The 2 brothers shall fall in the heart of the eagle" and "A man with a turban shall start WW3" and things like that...kinda scary

maybe nostradamus IS john titor. :O

 

[qckbeam]

well im starting to belive in that too ..i remember reading some article in a newspaper around 1997 about Nostradamus...and it said things like "The 2 brothers shall fall in the heart of the eagle" and "A man with a turban shall start WW3" and things like that...kinda scary

It was a man with a BLUE turban....big difference there

 

[Epyon]

well im starting to belive in that too ..i remember reading some article in a newspaper around 1997 about Nostradamus...and it said things like "The 2 brothers shall fall in the heart of the eagle" and "A man with a turban shall start WW3" and things like that...kinda scary

WW3........ well if there is one, i dont think it will last long, well they also said that about this war agasint iraq, but if there was a ww3, who will side with iraq, it will be the world vs. iraq. Of course, i dont really follow politics that much so i dont know who would actually side with iraq, or whatever, so correct me if im wrong.

 

[Jackal hit]

It was a man with a BLUE turban....big difference there

oh my god, it's a UN guy. ;(

 

[Lucifer Crass]

Hope that f******* war doesnt keep me from playing Hl2 on my new alienware. Now thats a real tragity. Hehehe
Btw its gunna cost me an arm and a .....O nm... $4700 to be exact. Over priced by $1,600 but I dont feel like building a new computer.

 

[Kadayi]

this is untrue. it's not the faith that is intolerant, it is the people in power. just go visit turkey sometime. that is one of the most free and open countries in the world. if you don't believe me just go visit. all religions are welcomed and allowed, the country is entirely secular, even though it is 99% muslim there. hell just go back and look at your histories. when the turks ruled the middle east (for almost 1000 years i might add), all religions were allowed. religion was never forced. just read up on the governing of the balkan region. islam was introduced but never forced. if the turks wanted to keep a stronger hold on the land they SHOULD have forced islam. go back to about 600 or 700 ad ... in the regions where syria, jordan, lebanon, isreal, are judaism, islam and christianity were all accepted. again, it's those that are in power who steer the course a people take, in the name of religion. again, i think religions are insane. (i believe in god btw)

edit: lol sorry, i've been pushing this whole turk thing this thread :|

I don't even think of Turkey as a middle eastern country TBH dude. Your a world apart from the activities of these fanatics.

 

[Jackal hit]

I don't even think of Turkey as a middle eastern country TBH dude. Your a world apart from the activities of these fanatics.

hm that's interesting, but, right on. :cheers:

i wonder how many people don't even see turkey as the middle east. ah well, it's nice not to feel affiliated with all the trouble going on there. ..i've grown up with people thinking turks are arabs, and are "sand n*ggers" or "camel jockeys" or whatever by association. it really is ignorant and comedically so, but it still messes with your psyche sometimes, and i'm only 1/2 turk yet it still bothers me a lot...hell my mom has to deal with that sort of ignorant racism(heh kinda redundant) at work a lot too.

 

[CLAYMAN]

It isn't exactly like stuff of this nature doesn't happen every day ...