Being Gay

I like gay women.... just not gay guys.... well I don't HATE gay guys, as long as they know not to hit on me or anything weird like that, they can be alright.
 
It's simple:
Those who cannot understand or learn how to understand something eventually fear it.
Fear is considered a sign of weakness, so the fear is turned into hatred.
Hatred is then manifested in the form of violence, and in this modern culture violence is considered a show of strength.
 
Originally posted by Agent4054
I like gay women.... just not gay guys.... well I don't HATE gay guys, as long as they know not to hit on me or anything weird like that, they can be alright.
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spoken like a true homophobe. that's what everyone says because they think it's ok to say "i dont mind gay guys unless they try to hit on me!!! oh yeah i like lesbians...if they're having sex and they're hot!!"

i've known a few gay guys over my life and none of them would think about hitting on a guy who might say something like that...gay guys have their own sense of who's gay and who's not. (which i guess can probably be wrong at times)

the gay guys i've met are pretty cool in general...i had a gay roommate my freshman year in college who was a complete asshole though.

in short...i don't hate gay people...so "everyone" doesn't hate them. they're just people. though i do say "that's gay" sometimes...i guess i might offend someone, but i'm not saying it trying to put gay people down...it's just slang for me (that i guess i should try to cut out)
 
Originally posted by BloodyL
It's simple:
Those who cannot understand or learn how to understand something eventually fear it.
Fear is considered a sign of weakness, so the fear is turned into hatred.
Hatred is then manifested in the form of violence, and in this modern culture violence is considered a show of strength.
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well said...

i wish i had this to quote in my post as well...dont feel like editing it in there though...my post speaks for itself anyway :p
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
spoken like a true homophobe. that's what everyone says because they think it's ok to say "i dont mind gay guys unless they try to hit on me!!! oh yeah i like lesbians...if they're having sex and they're hot!!"

i've known a few gay guys over my life and none of them would think about hitting on a guy who might say something like that...gay guys have their own sense of who's gay and who's not.

the gay guys i've met are pretty cool in general...i had a gay roommate my freshman year in college who was a complete asshole though.

in short...i don't hate gay people...so "everyone" doesn't hate them. they're just people. though i do say "that's gay" sometimes...i guess i might offend someone, but i'm not saying it trying to put gay people down...it's just slang for me (that i guess i should try to cut out)
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I think its fine to say you have a problem with the prospect of being hit on by another guy. I know 2 gay guys, and I knew both of them before they knew they were gay. I'm still friends with them and we still hang out, but that doesn't mean it doesn't weird me out. I give them shit about being gay, and they give me shit about being a ultra violent drunken conservative. So what?

People need to develope thicker skin, every time I turn on the tv I see white conservative males being made fun of, and I dont ****ing care. people are going to make fun of people, thats life. Life is offensive.
 
Well look at it this way. Most gay guys are damn good looking. If someone damn good looking hits on you (guy or girl) TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT!!!! And dont freak out.....talking to a gay guy dosnt mean he expects you to give him oral sex.

And anyway, gay guys are really nice. Every gay and lesbian person i've know are freakn' awsome people.
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
spoken like a true homophobe. that's what everyone says because they think it's ok to say "i dont mind gay guys unless they try to hit on me!!! oh yeah i like lesbians...if they're having sex and they're hot!!"

i've known a few gay guys over my life and none of them would think about hitting on a guy who might say something like that...gay guys have their own sense of who's gay and who's not. (which i guess can probably be wrong at times)

the gay guys i've met are pretty cool in general...i had a gay roommate my freshman year in college who was a complete asshole though.

in short...i don't hate gay people...so "everyone" doesn't hate them. they're just people. though i do say "that's gay" sometimes...i guess i might offend someone, but i'm not saying it trying to put gay people down...it's just slang for me (that i guess i should try to cut out)
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What's your problem? I said I don't mind them as long as they don't try anything weird on me. That doesn't make me a homophobe in any way. I have a few gay friends myself (well only one) and he's cool. Chill out before you go accusing someone
 
Gay people are people just like anyone else. Homophobes are people who have an irrational fear of gay people (i.e. I don't like gay guys because they might hit on me, that isn't aimed at you Agent). Some people need to understand that we won't hit on you unless we are almost positive your gay too. If your not we will back off right away. We aren't out searching for straight guys, not at all.
 
Originally posted by Agent4054
What's your problem? I said I don't mind them as long as they don't try anything weird on me. That doesn't make me a homophobe in any way. I have a few gay friends myself (well only one) and he's cool. Chill out before you go accusing someone
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seriously, freaking hollywood types all say that anyone who doesnt fall over backwards to accept someone is a homophobe/sexist/raceist.
 
now that I think about it, I HAVE been hit on by a gay guy. one time when my friend was REALLY drunk he started talkin all weird to everyone. it was annoying as hell to tell the truth.

onto the term "homophobe":
I know someone who is really aracnaphobic, and they dont scream "LETS CUT OFF ITS DICK AND STICK IT IN ITS MOUTH THEN HANG IT AND BURN IT" when they see a spider, they genrally run away.

I think a better term would just be "asshole", dont you?



(yes that guy on tough crowd said almost the exact same thing. I thought of it first.)
 
Something to lighten the mood:

The scene - the robbery of a small shop gone wrong, the perp is inside the shop holding the keeper hostage.
The police are outside with a megaphone.

Police- "Ok, we know your in there, do exactly as we say and you won't get hurt."
Perp- "Fk you!"
Police - "This is your first and only warning, come on out with your hands up!"

The perp steps through the front door with his hands above his head.
Perp - "Damn, how did you know?, I've always liked men, I think it started in high school when I was in the gym changing rooms."
Police - "What the fu..."

:)
 
we should start a political party debate if you want to see a really dumb one.
 
i dont think as many people hate gays as u think, i only say "your a f@ggot" or "your gay" or "thats gay" only because its an insult to someone who is not because its shunned in old society and seemingly hurts men's manhood that consider themselves "men". i honestly dont care wut sex people prefer or wut race they are or basicly wut size and shape they are(i am a lil wierd about midgets though [i dont know why, its just not natural, im still polite to them though] ). my parents brought me up well and i will do the same to my childern, and im sure when they are growing up they will use harsh language and will not think when they speek until they are in their middle 20's.
 
One time I was with a drunk stright girl and she started hitting on me, that was annoying as hell too. But I realize she was drunk.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to be hit on by a guy if your straight, it doesn't make you evil or anything. It's perfectly natural for you to feel uncomfortable if your straight and being hit on by a gay guy.
I feel uncomfortable when straight women hit on me, or when I see a guy and a girl kiss. I'm not a heterophobe because of that.

I should have been clearer, Homophobes hate gay people and do not show them respect. They are afraid of them for whatever reason, but their fear is always irrational. If you meet a gay guy one night and, for no reason other than the fact he is gay, are afraid that he may hit on you for he rest of the night, your acting homophobic. If your fear is irrational it's a phobia.

edit: KiNG, trust me, LOTS of people hate guys, at least where I live. I speak from personal experience.
 
Originally posted by Homer
seriously, freaking hollywood types all say that anyone who doesnt fall over backwards to accept someone is a homophobe/sexist/raceist.
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i dont expect people to fall over backwards to accept anyone...in fact i expect the opposite...notice my use of the word "typical"

you saying "i dont mind them as long as they don't...." is homophobic.
you can't let yourself just say "i like gay people" you're leaving an exception for yourself because you're afraid people will make fun of you or something...a defense.

i'm totally calm (was told to chill out)...i don't get worked up on message boards...i could seriously care less about what you think of gay people, but c'mon...your response was something that's been said 10000 times before. "i dont mind gays unless..." such a cliche.

i'm not a "freaking hollywood type" if i even know what that means. i'm actually quite conservative politically on many issues. no need for insults. i just hate seeing people respond to questions like that with cookie-cutter answers.

if you seriously weren't afraid of gay people...then why would you suddenly not like a gay friend if they hit on you? that's what you were saying by your statement? what would happen if they hit on you? you'd say "i'm not gay, man" or something like that...and that'd be it. they're not gonna try to suck your cock in public or anything...but it sounds like you think's gonna happen when you make comments like that.
 
Arg, sorry. Pressed the wrong button :( Can't delete this now.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
One time I was with a drunk stright girl and she started hitting on me, that was annoying as hell too. But I realize she was drunk.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting to be hit on by a guy if your straight, it doesn't make you evil or anything. It's perfectly natural for you to feel uncomfortable if your straight and being hit on by a gay guy.
I feel uncomfortable when straight women hit on me, or when I see a guy and a girl kiss. I'm not a heterophobe because of that.

I should have been clearer, Homophobes hate gay people and do not show them respect. They are afraid of them for whatever reason, but their fear is always irrational. If you meet a gay guy one night and are afraid that he may hit on you for he rest of the night your acting homophobic. If your fear is irrational it's a phobia.
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most people dont talk about people like that as homophobes. they talk about KKK types, and I just see them as assholes/bastards. I usualy dont cope with fear by killing whatever I am afraid of.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
yes Dux, I was talking about myself
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Oh right :) I was affraid I was going to make a silly comment in my above post so tryed to delete it >.<
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
i dont expect people to fall over backwards to accept anyone...in fact i expect the opposite...notice my use of the word "typical"

you saying "i dont mind them as long as they don't...." is homophobic.
you can't let yourself just say "i like gay people" you're leaving an exception for yourself because you're afraid people will make fun of you or something...a defense.

i'm totally calm (was told to chill out)...i don't get worked up on message boards...i could seriously care less about what you think of gay people, but c'mon...your response was something that's been said 10000 times before. "i dont mind gays unless..." such a cliche.

i'm not a "freaking hollywood type" if i even know what that means. i'm actually quite conservative politically on many issues. no need for insults. i just hate seeing people respond to questions like that with cookie-cutter answers.

if you seriously weren't afraid of gay people...then why would you suddenly not like a gay friend if they hit on you? that's what you were saying by your statement? what would happen if they hit on you? you'd say "i'm not gay, man" or something like that...and that'd be it. they're not gonna try to suck your cock in public or anything...but it sounds like you think's gonna happen when you make comments like that.
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I dont mind straits unless they stab me in the chest.
does that make things a little more clear?
 
there wasn't anything wrong with your post Dux. It was just a question. You didn't have to try to delete it.
 
Originally posted by Homer
I dont mind straits unless they stab me in the chest.
does that make things a little more clear?
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the argument you're trying to make is totally missing the point. stabbing you in the chest is clearly a threat to your life...a gay guy hitting on you is at worst an uncomfortable feeling.
 
I think what Maskirovka is trying to say here is that your homophobic if you only like gays under certain conditions. For example, you like gays IF they don't bother you, or IF they don't act girly. Correct me if I'm wrong Maskirovka.
 
and I do not appreciate feeling uncomfortable. its as simple as that.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
I think what Maskirovka is trying to say here is that your homophobic if you only like gays under certain conditions. For example, you like gays IF they don't bother you, or IF they don't act girly. Correct me if I'm wrong Maskirovka.
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no you got it exactly correct. sometimes i don't have the ability to sum up what i have to say like that :p
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
I think what Maskirovka is trying to say here is that your homophobic if you only like gays under certain conditions. For example, you like gays IF they don't bother you, or IF they don't act girly. Correct me if I'm wrong Maskirovka.
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I find a lot of attributes annoying in strait people as well as gay people. and I genrally do not hang out with people who have traits what iratate me. there is nothing wrong with that at all, people have alwase picked their friends like this and I dont see why I should stop just to be more understanding to gays.
 
Originally posted by Homer
and I do not appreciate feeling uncomfortable. its as simple as that.
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Originally posted by Homer
People need to develope thicker skin, Life is offensive.
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you just totally contradicted yourself...develop some thicker skin
 
ah cool, I'm glad I got that right. It's true though when you think about it. And not just for this, for all things. If you like something with conditions then you don't really like it. If I say I don't mind black people as long as they don't bother me then I don't like black people at all do I? I'm not calling anyone here a homophobe though, so don't flame me.
 
I was referring to television and media in my remark about thick skin. I am not going to keep friends that annoy me. I can not understand how you can have a problem with that.


you cant genralise people so much, I meet people one at a time. and I assess my friends based on weather they are cool and fun to hang out with. I know plenty of strait people I dont like because they whine to much, or refuse to shower, or use the word "funderfull"


a better way to describe what I said earlier would be
"I like strait people so long as they dont poke me in the stomach all the time"
 
Originally posted by Homer
I find a lot of attributes annoying in strait people as well as gay people. and I genrally do not hang out with people who have traits what iratate me. there is nothing wrong with that at all, people have alwase picked their friends like this and I dont see why I should stop just to be more understanding to gays.
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i'm not saying you have to go out and seek gay friends...or even be "more understanding to gays" whatever that means. the point is, you shouldn't be afraid of gay people just because they might hit on you.

you shouldn't dislike gay people for any reason other than normal reasons...such as you find one of those "annoying attributes" in them.

gay people are sensitive to the fact that you might feel uncomfortable if they hit on you and you're straight. it's uncomfortable for them if they make that mistake too...not just you. it's not like they're out to piss you off or something.
 
I find that if I keep my ideals and principles to myself, people generally don't go assuming/accusing and end up despising me. Hence my reasoning that i should stay out of stupid debates such as these. I make uneccessary enemies. one last word: just because someone is a homophobe doesn't make them a bad person.
 
perhaps you misunderstood, He was REALLY drunk and started hitting on every guy there (he was the only gay guy). EVERYONE was uncomftorble(exept him, and he doesnt remember it now... GAH).

I am still his friend, him saying a few weird things while drunk isnt enough to make me not like him, but it was WEIRD AND UNCOMFORTABLE and I did not appreciate it.

That doesnt make me a homophobe at all(although I still find fault with that term). If I were I wouldnt have stayed his friend after he told me he was gay back in highschool.
 
No Homer, you aren't a homophobe at all. It's totally natural to feel uncomfortable if your straight and in that situation. It doesn't make you a homophobe.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
No Homer, you aren't a homophobe at all. It's totally natural to feel uncomfortable if your straight and in that situation. It doesn't make you a homophobe.
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thank you, I appreciate that you posted that.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
No Homer, you aren't a homophobe at all. It's totally natural to feel uncomfortable if your straight and in that situation. It doesn't make you a homophobe.
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i agree...i never called you a homophobe...being uncomfortable in that situation is completely understandable...it'd be the same as if a straight guy was drunk off his ass and making a fool of himself hitting on all the straight women.

but that's exactly my point...gay people aren't any different than straight people...they just fall in love with people of the same sex...call it unnatural or whatever you want, but they're just people trying to be happy like everyone else.

and agent...gah... i dont even know what to say...being afraid of gays doesn't make you a "bad" person...but it makes you an unnecessarily afraid and misinformed one
 
Originally posted by Maskirovka
i agree...i never called you a homophobe...being uncomfortable in that situation is completely understandable...it'd be the same as if a straight guy was drunk off his ass and making a fool of himself hitting on all the straight women.
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heyheyhey, getting drunk and hitting on girls is one of my favorate pasttimes. dont be dissing on getting drunk and making an ass of yourself. its much more fun to get turned down when you wont remember it, and sometimes you hit on a girl whos just as drunk as you are, and fun insues.






(im jk btw, dont flame me)
 
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