Bethesda to announce new game Nov1st: Fallout3?

[CptStern]

probably new horse armor for Oblivion Elder Scrolls

At any rate, we're getting info on a game that'll be announced on November 1. So please look forward to that date, upon which you will be informed of everything. You'll find out, for example, how I got a thick layer of desert sand all over my white Old Navy shirt. Suspense!

please please be Fallout 3


http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bethesda/new-bethesda-game-to-be-announced-november-1st-205509.php

 

[Cube]

Please be yet another Star Trek game.

edit: A Wii one would be cool

 

[dream431ca]

probably new horse armor for Oblivion Elder Scrolls



please please be Fallout 3


http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bethesda/new-bethesda-game-to-be-announced-november-1st-205509.php

Um...stern...I knew that about 7 months ago. It WILL be fallout 3.

http://www.bethsoft.com/news/pressrelease_071204.htm

http://pc.ign.com/objects/568/568806.html

 

[Tagaziel]

But what Fallout 3?

Will it be a gang-raped, pss poor shadow of it's former self, with wiki-style dialogue systems, complete voiceovers, vast deserted areas that take five minutes tops to travel, enemies levelling (rats -> radscorpions -> wolves -> Deathclaws -> Supermutants), OMGSHINY graphics, piss-poor Radiant AI, more real world weapons which don't fit the setting, complete disregard for estabilished plot and essentially a huge dump taken on the Fallout fanbase?

Or will it be a gritty, postapocalyptic retrofuture stylized after the fifties, a true cRPG with SPECIAL character progression, intricate, multilevel plot with ambigous moral nature, with plenty of fictional, stylized weapons? Where inter-racial conflicts run amok? Where you can't live safely until another day? With a world-map and isometric view? Turn based combat?

I love Fallout, and I wish for the second option, however my experience tells me we will get a hollow shell a'la Oblivion.

Bethesda/Oblivion fanboys need not reply.

 

[SAJ]

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for fallout 3 using the same engine as oblivion.

mmmm, crunchy......

 

[DeusExMachina]

God, if Fallout 3 was just like Oblivion, I'd be in heaven.

 

[CptStern]

Um...stern...I knew that about 7 months ago. It WILL be fallout 3.

http://www.bethsoft.com/news/pressrelease_071204.htm

http://pc.ign.com/objects/568/568806.html

/me bookmarks post

nov 1st ..if it's horse armor you're gonna look silly :bounce:

 

[Shadow-warrior]

God, if Fallout 3 was just like Oblivion, I'd be in heaven.

HAHAHAHAHAHA... you were joking right?

 

[Unfocused]

Fallout 3, pls.

 

[DeusExMachina]

HAHAHAHAHAHA... you were joking right?

No. Oblivion with guns in a post-apocalyptic environment with Fallout plotline? Yes please.

 

[MorganFreeman911]

Eww
Oblivion AI Sucked!

 

[Stigmata]

Looking back, everything about Oblivion, except the models and some of the combat, really sucked. I hope Bethesda uses better creative judgement this time around.

 

[Slacker]

No. Oblivion with guns in a post-apocalyptic environment with Fallout plotline? Yes please.

That'd be a pretty huge change though. Not to say a bad one however, I wasn't really a big fan of either Fallout games.

 

[DarkStar]

I wasn't really a big fan of either Fallout games.

Urge...to kill...rising.

 

[Hazar]

That'd be a pretty huge change though. Not to say a bad one however, I wasn't really a big fan of either Fallout games.

/me hits slacker with super sledge hammer 6 times criticalling each time

 

[Tagaziel]

DeusExMachine, you have just earned the title of "lowest common denominator of the gaming industry" (TM). Do you have any idea what Fallout is about? IT was never about OMGSHINORZ graphics, not about piss-poor "Rapist" AI, not about miniature largest state in the TES universe, not about voiceovers, not about five hundred non-important face tweaks.

Fallout was about the 50s retrofuture feel, it posessed SPECIAL, isometric view, intricate dialogues, immersive and developed world, moral ambiguities, large and profesionally designed plot, believeable characters... it was all Oblivion is not.

And listen to yourself... Oblivion with Guns? Well, I extend an official invitation to you to visit our boards (No Mutants Allowed), and state your claim that "Fallout 3 as Oblivion with guns is OMGKEWL!". so that we can carve into your little skull, because I doubt a brain exists there, WHAT Fallout is and WHY we fear that Bethesda will rape it. Or, you might exercise those two neurons and research WHAT made Fallout so great, though I hop... err... fear the strain might kill you.

Thank you for setting the lowest standards for a forum user.

 

[Max35]

Don't think it will be Fallout 3, they already announced they were developing it, annoucing the game again seems redundant. Rather, Beth has stated they are making other games. Honestly, I don't think it will be Fallout 3. Of course, I could be wrong, most likely.

 

[Krynn72]

DeusExMachine, you have just earned the title of "lowest common denominator of the gaming industry" (TM). Do you have any idea what Fallout is about? IT was never about OMGSHINORZ graphics, not about piss-poor "Rapist" AI, not about miniature largest state in the TES universe, not about voiceovers, not about five hundred non-important face tweaks.

Fallout was about the 50s retrofuture feel, it posessed SPECIAL, isometric view, intricate dialogues, immersive and developed world, moral ambiguities, large and profesionally designed plot, believeable characters... it was all Oblivion is not.

And listen to yourself... Oblivion with Guns? Well, I extend an official invitation to you to visit our boards (No Mutants Allowed), and state your claim that "Fallout 3 as Oblivion with guns is OMGKEWL!". so that we can carve into your little skull, because I doubt a brain exists there, WHAT Fallout is and WHY we fear that Bethesda will rape it. Or, you might exercise those two neurons and research WHAT made Fallout so great, though I hop... err... fear the strain might kill you.

Thank you for setting the lowest standards for a forum user.

Someone takes his video games damn seriously. Can you guess who?

 

[Tagaziel]

Those who care about the integrity of the Fallout canon.

I'll use an example: Bethesda doing Fallout, is like Sega doing Half-Life 3, only whoring it out, changing it into a Mario 64 style platformer with Wallace Breen as protagonist, set after the Citadel blows with OMGSHINY graphics.

Krynn, if you like your sequels piss-poor copies of the original, with complete disregard to estabilished canon, design and SUCCESFUL earlier games (I'm not counting Tactics or Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, that POS for PS2), then it's your thing. I like mine integral and true to the story and design. ORIGINAL design: Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky...

 

[Gargantou]

Let's not forget Jason D. Anderson, Christian Taylor, Jason Taylor and Scott Campbell... They were also part in creating the original game design..

 

[Tagaziel]

Aye, Gargantou. These two were off the top of my head... and Brian Fargo as the producer.

By the way, inXile Entertainment acquired the licence for Wasteland... is mr Brygo planning a sequel....?

 

[Asknoone]

Fallout like Oblivion? Erm, no. I'd jump off a cliff and cry. Oblivion was fun, but mainly because of the combat and being able to wander where you please in a rather nice, if pretty generic world. But that was it.

 

[Unfocused]

I enjoyed Oblivion.

But I think Fallout 3 should stick to the "feel" of previous Fallouts - isometric view, turn-based combat etc..

 

[Shodan]

I hate, HATE turn based combat, that was what put me off the Fallout games, otherwise I enjoyed them, I loved the environments in them.

 

[Gargantou]

I love, LOVE turn-based combat, and I sincerely hope they don't make it real-time with optional turn-based, because we 'all' know how that turned out.*Smacks X-Com Apocalypse*

 

[Warbie]

I'll use an example: Bethesda doing Fallout, is like Sega doing Half-Life 3, only whoring it out, changing it into a Mario 64 style platformer with Wallace Breen as protagonist, set after the Citadel blows with OMGSHINY graphics.

I'd buy that

 

[Tagaziel]

However, turn based combat allows for much more refined tactics and complexity of gameplay, as real-time combat (which is insanely hard to implement in SPECIAL) is essentially a clickfest. It was in Morrowind, it partially was in Deus Ex and System Shock... it requires mostly good reflexes and accurate eye, not careful calculation and planning.

 

[VictimOfScience]

Hmm, anyone's guess. Fallout 3? Maybe a proper official announcement with screenies or a vid or something. Other than that, who knows?? We should all be very excited though--Bethesda has some great talent.

 

[Tagaziel]

Not for RPGs though.

 

[Bad^Hat]

That or... maybe an Oblivion expansion. They're a little overdue for one, and you know it's coming.

 

[guchi]

ofcourse it is, its pretty obvious I think.... :O

 

[Cerpin]

Don't you just love pretentious gamers, despite the oxymoronic nature of the beast?

 

[Core407]

I hope Bethesda announces a new Call of Cthulhu game that's developed in-house and not at Headfirst.

 

[DeusExMachina]

DeusExMachine, you have just earned the title of "lowest common denominator of the gaming industry" (TM). Do you have any idea what Fallout is about? IT was never about OMGSHINORZ graphics, not about piss-poor "Rapist" AI, not about miniature largest state in the TES universe, not about voiceovers, not about five hundred non-important face tweaks.

Fallout was about the 50s retrofuture feel, it posessed SPECIAL, isometric view, intricate dialogues, immersive and developed world, moral ambiguities, large and profesionally designed plot, believeable characters... it was all Oblivion is not.

And listen to yourself... Oblivion with Guns? Well, I extend an official invitation to you to visit our boards (No Mutants Allowed), and state your claim that "Fallout 3 as Oblivion with guns is OMGKEWL!". so that we can carve into your little skull, because I doubt a brain exists there, WHAT Fallout is and WHY we fear that Bethesda will rape it. Or, you might exercise those two neurons and research WHAT made Fallout so great, though I hop... err... fear the strain might kill you.

Thank you for setting the lowest standards for a forum user.

Oh Christ, its a ****ing Fallout fanboy. You people are the lowest of low. Of course I know what Fallout is about. I have Fallout 1 and 2. I've beaten Fallout 1 and 2.

Please, don't even pay attention to anything regarding Fallout 3. Tell your friends too. Elitist pricks. Its 2006. Someone obviously glorifies the 50s if he can't accept change :|.

 

[Shadow-warrior]

Change is fine, dumbing down for 'DA MASSES!' is not.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Forget the Oblivion comment if you're all hung up on that.

You're gonna have to realize "DA MASSES!" are the ones who buy games. "DA MASSES" are the ones make companies profit. Why do you think Interplay even bothered making the horrible Brotherhood of Steel? They needed money. They inserted shitty music with shitty gameplay and a shitty story (seeming to think this would even sell many copies is ludicrous in itself) and slapped Fallout on it. They even shut down production on Fallout 3 to MAKE BOS.

Sure, I would've rather had Obsidian Entertainment get their hands on Fallout, but it wasn't meant to be. Bethesda's got it, they've made award winning games, they know what they're doing. I trust they'll make something worthy of the Fallout name.

 

[Max35]

It seems to me the game that's going to be announced will be a NEW game, not one already somewhat announced (aka Fallout 3, as we knew it was in development).

 

[Slacker]

/me hits slacker with super sledge hammer 6 times criticalling each time

Honestly, it's not that they were BAD games, just games I couldn't really get into. I don't see what made them any better than Baldur's Gate or every othe r 2D RPG for the PC.

 

[DeusExMachina]

The plot and atmosphere is what set it apart from the rest. I wasn't a big fan of the combat (still can't stand it very much nowadays either) but the game had great characters and original scenarios. Unlike every other fantasy 2D RPG (excluding Planescape, the best one ever made), the idea was original.

 

[Tagaziel]

DeusExMachina, you aren't proving anything, well, except your total lack of manners, comprehension and understanding of Fallout.

Let's vivisect your posts...

Oh Christ, its a ****ing Fallout fanboy. You people are the lowest of low.

Here, instead of putting a well placed argument, regarding the plausibility of Bethesda making a worthy sequel, you resort to moron's arguments - ad personam, which do not have any place in an intelligent discussion. Apparently, you failed to learn that lesson at the age of twelve.

Of course I know what Fallout is about. I have Fallout 1 and 2. I've beaten Fallout 1 and 2.

Your posts prove otherwise. I would love to know what Fallout is to you, and what it is to a majority of the fanbase, who STAY IN CONTACT with Fallout's original developers. Of course, this you call "lowest of low", well, exposes your attitutude to Fallout's design.

Please, don't even pay attention to anything regarding Fallout 3. Tell your friends too. Elitist pricks.

Another ad personam argument, easily debunked because you don't have a clue, captain Clueless, as to how Fallout was made and WHY we care for the game canon's integrity. Oh, and addressing us as "elitist pricks" won't buy you any respect on this forum, most posters have grown out of the kindergarten.

Its 2006. Someone obviously glorifies the 50s if he can't accept change.

Ah, proof you don't know what you are talking about. The CORE of Fallout's design, stated time and time again, was the science fiction future, as envisioned by the people of the fifities, then nuked out. It's a retro-future stylisation, Fallout 1 and 2 posseses an Art-Deco stylisation (just examine the building in the Hub, Boneyards, even cars point to this). Of course, you can be one of those kiddies that want more real-life weapons in Fallout, weapons which don't fit in, because the timeline of FO diverged from ours in the 50s. Also, you seem to be optimistic about the dumbing down and neutering Fallout, taking away what made it great.

You're gonna have to realize "DA MASSES!" are the ones who buy games. "DA MASSES" are the ones make companies profit. Why do you think Interplay even bothered making the horrible Brotherhood of Steel? They needed money. They inserted shitty music with shitty gameplay and a shitty story (seeming to think this would even sell many copies is ludicrous in itself) and slapped Fallout on it. They even shut down production on Fallout 3 to MAKE BOS.

Get your act together, DEMpo. On one hand, you loathe the rape that Interplay done on Fallout with FO: POS (and to a degree, tactics), while on the other you are excusing dumbing it down for 'DA MASSES!', because they make companies profit. Am I missing something, or are you burning out those two lonely neurons in your skull?

Sure, I would've rather had Obsidian Entertainment get their hands on Fallout, but it wasn't meant to be. Bethesda's got it, they've made award winning games, they know what they're doing. I trust they'll make something worthy of the Fallout name.

Err, no. Dig around the news section of NMA, and read how Roshambo explains, why Bethesda will most likely whore out Fallout, like no company has done before.

The plot and atmosphere is what set it apart from the rest. I wasn't a big fan of the combat (still can't stand it very much nowadays either) but the game had great characters and original scenarios. Unlike every other fantasy 2D RPG (excluding Planescape, the best one ever made), the idea was original.

This post gives a flicker of hope, that you may yet have what it takes to understand what Fallout is about. Namely, a brain to turn on while playing.

Concluding, I state, that us, NMA members, accept gradual changes, like they were introduced in Van Buren (the TRUE Fallout 3), not perverting the SPECIAL isometric turn-based system set in a gritty, post-apocalyptic lawless wasteland, where you can do what you please (even finish the game in under thirty minutes if you know how - THAT'S non-linear game construction) into a linear, OMGSHINY game, as full of substance as a Barbie doll is on a butcher's hook.

Sincerely,

Mikael Grizzly

PS: If you are going to cry "You used arguments aimed at me!", then re-read the post, they are used in conjecture with "ad rem" arguments, and as such, don't void my credibility, because I know what I'm saying.