Breaking Bad Season 3

Raziaar said:
I too feel like Gus treasures Walt as an incredibly valuable asset... other than of course Walt lying... which he needs to stop doing.


I suspect next week he has difficulty making the 400 pound quota. Every time they need to deliver big, something gets tangled up.
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The part about Gale ****ing up was true. He ****ed up that 500 gallon tank, remember they had to flush it?

The only thing Walt lied about to Gus was that the equipment required calibrations. And Gus knows Walt lied because he felt he had to. So I think it's excusable.

Walt figured if Gus knew his brother was DEA it would be all over, but little did he know...


I think Gus and Walt's relationship is going to be just fine. The next episode will probably deal with Gale (what will become of him) and Jesse (difficult working relationship).

And of course Hank will recover a bit and vow to get to the bottom of this. Walt will be like: fake smile/nod.
 
VirusType2 said:
The part about Gale ****ing up was true. He ****ed up that 500 gallon tank, remember they had to flush it?
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I dont think Gale ****ed up. I think Walt lied because he didn't want him to learn his recipe. I also think Gus put Gale there to learn the recipe so he didn't have to count on Walt, that's why I think their relationship will get rocky as time goes on; I don't think Gus is looking out for Walt's best interests, he is looking out for himself and as we've seen he can be very calculating. He used Walt's brother as a pawn to take out one of the rival cartels.
 
Gus has been Walt's guardian angel so far. He won't keep that up if Walt breaks the promise he made. And this episode proved that Gus is not the person you want to **** around with.
 
No Limit said:
I dont think Gale ****ed up. I think Walt lied because he didn't want him to learn his recipe. I also think Gus put Gale there to learn the recipe so he didn't have to count on Walt, that's why I think their relationship will get rocky as time goes on; I don't think Gus is looking out for Walt's best interests, he is looking out for himself and as we've seen he can be very calculating. He used Walt's brother as a pawn to take out one of the rival cartels.
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Yeah, I can agree with most of that.

I think Walt was probably to blame for cooking at the wrong temperature, since Gale said he wrote it down. But I suspected it was because Walt was under so much stress at the time that he made a mistake. But for that mistake, the blame rested on Gale in the end, so I think that lie had become the truth (it was Gale's fault, whether it really was or not - you know?)

I guess you could be right about guarding his secret, but I don't think so because I don't think Walt would **** up the entire batch purposefully.

I don't think Gus and Walt are going to have any issues. Gus needs Walt, and Walt respects Gus a great deal. But Walt and Gus have the sort of relationship where Walt will still stand up to him. He trusts Gus not to hurt him or his family. I don't think it will come to the point where Walt will be in danger by Gus - not for a long time, at least.


But as we've seen, the show isn't terribly predictable, so who knows what will happen next.
 
I still don't think Gus is going to oppose Walt. The things he did to protect Walt are the reason he had to kill the bad guys... to cover up his transgressions protecting Walt. Now as far as we know, there's nobody who will know what Gus did, and nobody currently after Walt. Gus wants to keep him... he doesn't want Gale to replace him. Maybe he just had Gale there as a safety net in case he did lose Walt... but now he has Walt, and wants to keep Walt, as long as Walt continues to meet the quota, including the 400 pounds in one week.

What I *DO* foresee happening, is Walt being unable to make that amount due to Jesse being a ****up, and that causing tension between him and Gus... as well as Gus increasing the quota permanently.
 
I don't know. This could empower him. Maybe he will no longer have that lingering fear that's been bothering him. And I think he'll be getting his suspension lifted, especially after his heroics, but mostly since Jesse is no longer pressing charges.


A lot of people saying that Gus wants to replace Walt. Gus just needs someone to cook it. The less people that know about the operation, the better. If Walt starts flaking, or if his health becomes a concern, that would be the only reason Gus would replace him.

I can see now that Jesse is going to have to grow up really fast if he wants to continue living. Gus hasn't liked him from the start. If Jesse becomes a liability, or starts flapping his mouth off, it will fall back on Walt since he vouched for him.


Ready for the next episode.
 
Most likely Gus will go after Jesse after his poor performance with Walt. Gus doesn't like this guy and I bet he will try to bring back Gale.
 
Gale is sort of a wild card. He knows about the whole thing, which makes him a player whether they like it or not.

I'm surprised Walt doesn't realize that Gale might be murdered. It's possible they paid him handsomely and thanked him for his time (paid him to **** off).
 
hot564231 said:
I think Hank will be damaged goods after this.
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He wasn't already?

...

Kind of a dull episode.

Edit: Everyone seems to think that Gus took out the cartel, but I just don't see him having ninja swat team resources.
 
VirusType2 said:
I think Walt was probably to blame for cooking at the wrong temperature, since Gale said he wrote it down. But I suspected it was because Walt was under so much stress at the time that he made a mistake. But for that mistake, the blame rested on Gale in the end, so I think that lie had become the truth (it was Gale's fault, whether it really was or not - you know?) .
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What I thought was that Walt was testing Gale. He felt Gale was too submissive, which is why Walt wanted Jesse instead. Walt realized he is capable of error and needed to find out if Gale would challenge his decisions to help him improve instead of just following him blindly. That's what makes Jesse a better partner for him. If Walt told Jesse he wrote the wrong number he'd say "no way bitch" but Gale was just all "sorry sorry"
 
VirusType2 said:
The part about Gale ****ing up was true. He ****ed up that 500 gallon tank, remember they had to flush it?

The only thing Hank lied about to Gus was that the equipment required calibrations. And Gus knows Walt lied because he felt he had to. So I think it's excusable.

Hank figured if Gus knew his brother was DEA it would be all over, but little did he know...
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Are you dyslexic?

Also, I'm pretty sure Walt is the one who made the mistake, Gale just did what Walt said. But yeah, theres no way Gale is out of the picture, you don't make a character like that and then just throw him away.

I'm surprised Gus was so reasonable with Walt. He brought back Jesse, straight up lied to his face, all while Gus is out there cleaning up Walt's mess. Thats a lot to put up with for an unstable business venture. Even if the potential is great.
 
Whoops. Fixed.

Sheepo said:
Edit: Everyone seems to think that Gus took out the cartel, but I just don't see him having ninja swat team resources.
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Did you not see the last couple minutes of the show? Where Gus was on the phone?
 
Yes. And all I saw was him smile while on the phone. Not him training an elite laser equipped ninja team. He said the feds were all over his house, I naturally assumed it was them doing the raid.
 
SWAT wouldn't murder everyone (although you could argue that they were armed so it wasn't murder, the FEDS would have announced their presence as required by law). The cartel boss on the phone assumed it was Feds, but he was wrong. Gus knew exactly what was happening - there was absolutely no surprise there.

But the DEA didn't know who the two terminators where connected with. So they couldn't have initiated a raid.
 
The feds shouldn't have initiated the raid. The feds shouldn't have had such twitchy trigger fingers. I'm not saying I'm certain you're wrong or anything, but Gus doesn't strike me as a man to have, or use, such lethal force. And all we really have to go on is that grin of his that he has 24/7.
 
Sheepo, Gus got the cleaner to kill the 2nd twin, I think he makes himself look weak but he really a sleeping giant.
 
The whole appeal of Gus to Walt in the first place is he's a no strings attached business man. Yes, obviously that was exaggerated and nothing's really that simple, but the idea of him having on demand swat teams is a little much.
 
A few killers with automatic weapons seems pretty easy to believe compared to that meth factory he built.
 
I'm pretty sure Gus made a deal with mexican police chief to go after the cartel or something. I can see him having a one or couple of cleaner/assassin, but not whole squad of hitman armed with laser sight machine gun. If he had that kind of resources in hand, he would have used them to clean off the cartel twins.
 
Sheepo said:
The whole appeal of Gus to Walt in the first place is he's a no strings attached business man. Yes, obviously that was exaggerated and nothing's really that simple, but the idea of him having on demand swat teams is a little much.
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There's such thing as corrupt cops. Especially in South America.
I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that Hank's Chief was on his pay role.
 
Yeah, that I can see. Whether they were pushed by Gus or not, I think it was a legitimate police force that broke into his house. Not some Hermanos Pollos A-Team.
 
Sheepo said:
Yeah, that I can see. Whether they were pushed by Gus or not, I think it was a legitimate police force that broke into his house. Not some Hermanos Pollos A-Team.
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Oh, I don't disagree with that. Actually, you're probably right. I thought you were implying the raid was unrelated to Gus.

Interestingly, on the phone, the cartel boss said something like, "My brother is a police chief"

he also said, "Meanwhile I have federales surrounding my house"
Federales is a slang Spanish term for Mexican Federal Police, specifically the Federal Investigations Agency or by its mexican acronym AFI
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I'm still not saying that I think Gus was definitely involved, I'm just saying I think it's possible he could've helped push it a little or that it happened naturally.
 
Yeah. It seems to me that he was expecting to brush the call off by acting innocent, and was simply happy with the fact that those guys ended up being shot.
 
Lot of corruption in the Mexican police force. I think there is also a cartel made up of ex Mexican army special forces.
 
VirusType2 said:
Yeah, I can agree with most of that.

I think Walt was probably to blame for cooking at the wrong temperature, since Gale said he wrote it down. But I suspected it was because Walt was under so much stress at the time that he made a mistake. But for that mistake, the blame rested on Gale in the end, so I think that lie had become the truth (it was Gale's fault, whether it really was or not - you know?)

I guess you could be right about guarding his secret, but I don't think so because I don't think Walt would **** up the entire batch purposefully.

I don't think Gus and Walt are going to have any issues. Gus needs Walt, and Walt respects Gus a great deal. But Walt and Gus have the sort of relationship where Walt will still stand up to him. He trusts Gus not to hurt him or his family. I don't think it will come to the point where Walt will be in danger by Gus - not for a long time, at least.


But as we've seen, the show isn't terribly predictable, so who knows what will happen next.
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The point is I don't think the temperature was wrong. I think Walt lied that it was because he was paranoid about the recipe being taken. And I think he was right. Gus wants someone that is stable and can make him meth without causing any problems. That is not the case with Walt. Walt knows nothing about the drug game and is currently totally unstable mentally. Not to mention he has cancer. Getting someone like Gale to learn the recipe would be the smart thing to do on his part.
 
from the wiki

However, when the two hit men are killed, Juan Bolsa believes that Gus gave them permission to kill Hank and is now trying to take over the entire methamphetamine market by having Walter manufacture the amount of meth previously obtained from the cartel super labs. This is discovered to be true, and Bolsa is murdered by hit men at his house in Mexico, on behalf of Gus.
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I dunno, I'm skeptical this was simply hit men. It seems to me that Gus has realized the potential Walt is capable of and simply wanted to cut ties with the cartel. Why deal with them for less money when he can use Walt, a seemingly non-violent asset, to cook better meth and earn more money?

I like Gus, he's 100 times more bad ass than those douche twins. I'm curious how Gus knew the twins were about to attack though, assuming he wasn't flat out told by Juan.
 
Combine Hybrid said:
I'm pretty sure Gus made a deal with mexican police chief to go after the cartel or something. I can see him having a one or couple of cleaner/assassin, but not whole squad of hitman armed with laser sight machine gun. If he had that kind of resources in hand, he would have used them to clean off the cartel twins.
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There's a big difference in having the resources to do something, and being able to get it done while avoiding political and business ramifications.

Tyguy said:
I like Gus, he's 100 times more bad ass than those douche twins. I'm curious how Gus knew the twins were about to attack though, assuming he wasn't flat out told by Juan.
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Yes... I am very pleased that Santa Muerte granted my wishes when I put their pictures on her altar.
 
johnnyutahsuperbreaking.png
 
Lol. Walt can summon a 737 jetliner crash. (overdose move)

I might have to download this.
 
Oh man, that's ****ing wallpaper worthy right there!
 
Tyguy said:
I dunno, I'm skeptical this was simply hit men. It seems to me that Gus has realized the potential Walt is capable of and simply wanted to cut ties with the cartel.
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How does sending hitmen to kill Bolsa not cut his ties with the cartel?
 
Haha that's awesome. Saved.

If only I had someone to show it...
 
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