Bush 'gropes' German Chancellor

[f0rked]

Sorry if this is a dupe, I scanned this page and couldn't find anything.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/themix/39135

Heh there's a video too.

 

[mortiz]

Bush is a dumbass who can't keep his hands to himself: nothing more needs to said. Groping the leader of another country when in the position that George Dubya Bush is in, infront of the world press no less. I love the way he runs away pretending like nothing has happend when he realizes she doesn't like it.

 

[Cole]

Didn't the Daily Show do something on this? He was rubbing her shoulders and she kind of shrugged him off or something. Idk. I would just scream rape at bush either way.

 

[gh0st]

completely newsworthy

i wonder what you guys would say if he was blown in the oval office?

 

[Tr0n]

I don't have a problem with him doing that to the chancellor. Nor would I care if he got a bj from some chick in the oval office.

 

[Kangy]

The difference is that Clinton was a ****ing cool (dirty) bastard whereas Bush is creepily groping her. Clinton = hero, Bush = creepy. If he'd entertained a harem of women in the Oval Office, hell, I'd be impressed. Not some weird grope though.

 

[hool10]

Ok don't be like a bunch of sheep and follow what the press is saying all the time. Yes Bush is a retard but making news for Bush saying, "shit" is lame. To me it looked like he knew her pretty well and put his hands on her shoulder saying, "I'm gonna leave for a bit" and she got startled because she didn't know who was behind her. Please do not blow this out of proportion by saying he was groping her. Yeah ok, Bush wanted to go up to her and start groping her breasts. /sarcasm Please people start using your minds and stop going, "Anything I find on Bush thats unusual I most overblow it out of proportion!!11"

 

[Solaris]

I'd hit it

 

[Angry Lawyer]

DaveL groped me once.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[f0rked]

I'm not trying to sensationalise this here, I'm just amused by her reaction. I didnt want to blow this into something its not. I wasn't sure about the use of the word 'grope' either, cause to me a grope is more sexual than just putting your hands on someones shoulders.

Yeah I agree that everyone's jumping on Bush these days, I mean, c'mon, who's never said shit before? It's hardly newsworthy. Although the actual statement in which shit was used was somewhat of a generalisation and almost ignorant.

But yeah, I like Bush. Most amusing president ever.

 

[spookymooky]

Eh, I pictured Bush groping this guy:

 

[mortiz]

It's just absolutely ridiculous at how unprofessional Bush seems at such an important meeting. These guys could have a bearing on the future of the planet for god's sake and they're too busy talking in slang and feeling each other up.

 

[CptStern]

completely newsworthy

i wonder what you guys would say if he was blown in the oval office?

umm good for him?

 

[f0rked]

To me it looked like he knew her pretty well and put his hands on her shoulder saying, "I'm gonna leave for a bit" and she got startled because she didn't know who was behind her.

Also, from the video, she looks round at Bush before he gave her his 'shoulder rub', so she knew who it was

 

[Korgoth]

completely newsworthy

i wonder what you guys would say if he was blown in the oval office?

You honestly can't even laugh at the guy once can you... What would be your defense if he killed a kitten?

"fukin' terrrrorists deserved that cyanide in his fancy feats, bush FTW!!!!"

Get over it.

 

[Absinthe]

I came in here expecting to see some full-on titty squeezing. Instead I get this.

 

[gh0st]

You honestly can't even laugh at the guy once can you... What would be your defense if he killed a kitten?

"fukin' terrrrorists deserved that cyanide in his fancy feats, bush FTW!!!!"

Get over it.

i can laugh at him, he's a retard. but the way people sensationalize nothing is gay.

get over THAT.

 

[DaMaN]

i can laugh at him, he's a retard. but the way people sensationalize nothing is gay.

get over THAT.

Umm... first, how is "sensationalizing nothing" homosexual? I wasn't sure "sensationalizing nothing" had a gender preference in the first place...

Second, people sensationalize plenty of nothing. Just look at so-called "popular" T.V. shows:
Survivor
America's Next Top Model
Project Runway
Among several other "reality" shows.

But that's not the point I want to make.


The point I want to make is that this is NOT nothing.

The behavior made by Bush is sexual harrassment.

By the U.S.'s own definition, sexual harrassment is defined as: "Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitutes sexual harassment when submission to or rejection of this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment." (Source: http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-sex.html ). "Unnecessary touching or patting" falls under this (Source: http://www.mun.ca/sexualharassment/Definition.html ).

Also, "The harasser's conduct must be unwelcome." As you can plainly see by the pictures and video, it's obvious that the conduct was unwelcome.

Behavior such as this has been deemed illegal in the United States. Unfortunately, like the miriad of other laws the United States has broken under the Bush Administration, this illegal act will probably go unpunished.

-DaMaN

 

[Tr0n]

How about just stop making something out of nothing?

 

[DaMaN]

How about just stop making something out of nothing?

Sexual Harrassment is nothing?

-DaMaN

 

[Tr0n]

How do you know she didn't like it? What if she knew it was a joke?

Are you her? No.

It's funny why no one went crazy when Jac Chirac kissed Laura Bush on her hand, but yet you could see she didn't like it. Stop bitching about the smallest god damn things. Also yea I found it creepy and weird, but I'm not bitching about or saying "liek omg sexual harrassment!"

 

[bliink]

Damn, George is having one hell of a trip abroad... it just never ends, the "I'm lookin' forward to that pig!" thing, the "stop doing this shit" thing, the putin stuff..

Maybe they won't let him go to other countries after this..

Although, she didn't look too upset.. I think I saw her smiling in the video.

Bush is just very un-president like.. like some regular joe who somehow made it into the highest diplomatic circles.. god save us.

 

[15357]

Thats groping?


God.

 

[gh0st]

daman, you are the reason we have too many frivolous lawsuits and so many good mens careers are ruined because people freak out at every little thing. you make me SICK. im sure the chancellor of germany could frickin deal with being touched on the shoulders. if bush started dry humping her leg i could see the point.

oh, and the fact that our pop culture is retarded doesnt mean i like that either. in order for you to have had a point there i would have had to have said that gay reality tv shows are GREAT.

 

[DaMaN]

How do you know she didn't like it? What if she knew it was a joke?

Are you her? No.

No, i'm not. I was merely speaking from the evidence I have observed in the given link. If you wish to refute my point, please provide contradicting evidence.

daman, you are the reason we have too many frivolous lawsuits and so many good mens careers are ruined because people freak out at every little thing.

The reason we have so many frivolous lawsuits has nothing to do with me, nor the number of good mens careers. (Though if they were convicted of sexual harrassment, one might contradict the "good" in there.)

And sexual harrassment is not "every little thing." It is very serious, and too often overlooked. Sexual harrassment is a form of illegal discrimination and a form of sexual and psychological abuse, and bullying. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment )

you make me SICK.

Take an Advil or put some Windex on it.

im sure the chancellor of germany could frickin deal with being touched on the shoulders. if bush started dry humping her leg i could see the point.

From the evidence I have observed (link on page 1), it didn't seem to me like the Chancellor of Germany could "fricken" deal with sexual harrassment.

oh, and the fact that our pop culture is retarded doesnt mean i like that either. in order for you to have had a point there i would have had to have said that gay reality tv shows are GREAT.

The point I was trying to make is that we, as a culture, have a habit of sensationalizing what is essentially nothing.

And I didn't notice anything about those reality tv shows being homosexual in particular...

-DaMaN

 

[Llama]

i can laugh at him, he's a retard. but the way people sensationalize nothing is gay.

get over THAT.

I actually agree. He put his hands on someones shoulders, HOLY ****ING SHIT pervert!!!One

 

[gh0st]

The reason we have so many frivolous lawsuits has nothing to do with me, nor the number of good mens careers. (Though if they were convicted of sexual harrassment, one might contradict the "good" in there.)

the mere accusation is plenty to ruin peoples careers. you've got plenty of wikipedia experience but its painfully obvious that your "real life" experience is lacking.

And sexual harrassment is not "every little thing." It is very serious, and too often overlooked. Sexual harrassment is a form of illegal discrimination and a form of sexual and psychological abuse, and bullying. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment )

oh BOO HOO. the definition of sexual harassment is unwanted touching. what if i bump into another chick on accident. OOPS SHE THINKS I HARASSED HER. most sexual harassment cases are utter bullshit.

Take an Advil or put some Windex on it.

aww the little peacnik is advocating violence.

how quaint that its through poisoning, the most cowardly and inept way of killing someone ever.

From the evidence I have observed (link on page 1), it didn't seem to me like the Chancellor of Germany could "fricken" deal with sexual harrassment.

get a clue. ill spell it out for you.

she runs one of the most powerful governments in europe...

if she REALLY felt that threatened by george w. bushes "sexual advances" she is FULLY capable of dealing with it. she doesnt need "daman" on hl2.net to defend her.

The point I was trying to make is that we, as a culture, have a habit of sensationalizing what is essentially nothing.

k great point. ask me if i give a shit.

And I didn't notice anything about those reality tv shows being homosexual in particular...

im going to call a lot of things gay. you might as well quit wasting your fingers on trying to say that the things i call "gay" are not actually "gay.

just like when i call battlefield 2 stupid doesnt mean the game is physically stupid. dip.
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[XANA]

...he was blown in the oval office?

i don't know if anyone already said this, but i think it was bill clinton

 

[Llama]

yeah it was said before, he was using it as an example of an alternate, newsworthy (or at elast more newsworthy) topic.

I think :bonce:

 

[DaMaN]

the mere accusation is plenty to ruin peoples careers. you've got plenty of wikipedia experience but its painfully obvious that your "real life" experience is lacking.

I fail to see your point. G.W. Bush's career is not going to suffer one iota from my accusation, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people were accusing the same thing.

oh BOO HOO. the definition of sexual harassment is unwanted touching. what if i bump into another chick on accident. OOPS SHE THINKS I HARASSED HER. most sexual harassment cases are utter bullshit.

While some sexual harrassment cases are indeed "utter bullshit", that makes sexual harrassment cases no less serious.

aww the little peacnik is advocating violence.

how quaint that its through poisoning, the most cowardly and inept way of killing someone ever.

Just because i'm a "peacnik" doesn't mean I never advocate violence.

And by saying "Take and Advil, or put some Windex on it", was reference to your comment "you make me SICK". Since I was apparently "making you SICK", I suggested an Advil, which many people take if they are not feeling well, or Windex, which was an attempt at inserting humor through the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding

get a clue. ill spell it out for you.

she runs one of the most powerful governments in europe...

if she REALLY felt that threatened by george w. bushes "sexual advances" she is FULLY capable of dealing with it. she doesnt need "daman" on hl2.net to defend her.

No, she doesn't need my defence. But other people who read this and encounter a similar situation might be more informed for their defence.

Also, I am not only defending her, but her basic human rights, and through her rights, the rights of other human beings.

k great point.

Thanks

ask me if i give a shit.

I won't, as you obviously don't.

im going to call a lot of things gay. you might as well quit wasting your fingers on trying to say that the things i call "gay" are not actually "gay.

just like when i call battlefield 2 stupid doesnt mean the game is physically stupid. dip.

I say that the things you call "gay" are not actually "gay", because they aren't and because by context you are trying to degrade the things you call "gay", and hence degrading gay people themselves, which is a form of Homophobia.

-DaMaN

 

[gh0st]

I fail to see your point. G.W. Bush's career is not going to suffer one iota from my accusation, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people were accusing the same thing.

im talking about sexual harassment in general.

While some sexual harrassment cases are indeed "utter bullshit", that makes them no less serious.

oh i agree. and had george bush been humping ms merkels legs i'd totally agree with you.

Just because i'm a "peacnik" doesn't mean I never advocate violence.

ok

And by saying "Take and Advil, or put some Windex on it", was reference to your comment "you make me SICK". Since I was apparently "making you SICK", I suggested an Advil, which many people take if they are not feeling well, or Windex, which was an attempt at inserting humor through the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding

sorry i dont watch gay movies.

No, she doesn't. But other people who read this and encounter a similar situation might be more informed.

Also, I am not only defending her, but her basic human rights, and through her rights, the rights of other human beings.

hahahahhaha

I say that the things you call "gay" are not actually "gay", because they aren't and because by context you are trying to degrade the things you call "gay", and hence degrading gay people themselves, which is a form of Homophobia.

you got me "daman" i'm a sexual predator homophobe. thank you for revealing it to the world.

 

[Tr0n]

No, i'm not. I was merely speaking from the evidence I have observed in the given link. If you wish to refute my point, please provide contradicting evidence.

Well I could as easily say from the evidence that I see, I see no sexual harrassment.

Just because YOU observed something doesn't mean it's right. Now refute my observed evidence against your obsevered evidence.

 

[DaMaN]

im talking about sexual harassment in general.

Ok, though sexual harrassment claims can do just as much harm to peoples careers as being found guilty, that doesn't make the genuine ones any less serious.

sorry i dont watch gay movies.

Hmm... you're obviously not using that word right. Are you trying to imply that it's a bright and happy movie? (Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay )

hahahahhaha

The human rights of one person are equally as valuable as the human rights of anyone else.

you got me "daman" i'm a sexual predator homophobe. thank you for revealing it to the world.

That was not my intention. But, if that's how you wish to interpret it, you're welcome.

Well I could as easily say from the evidence that I see, I see no sexual harrassment.

I am unsure how you can't see the sexual harrassment, so I'll outline the evidence I see:
- G.W. puts his hands on her shoulders in a "neck rub" position
- She immediately responds in an unfriendly gesture, inclined to force him off of her.

However, the statement

Just because YOU observed something doesn't mean it's right.

Is true, though it's hard to refute the fact that Bush did indeed put his hands on her, in a manner of "unnecessary touching or patting" (Source: http://www.mun.ca/sexualharassment/Definition.html ). Whether or not this action was unwelcome dwells upon how much time you define a "welcome" action to take place.

Now refute my observed evidence against your obsevered evidence.

See above.

-DaMaN

 

[Llama]

The problem with S.H. laws, is that they are based on ideals which can be taken out of a normal situation (Eg. According to law, bumping into someone could be deemed a sexual offence.) which essentially makes the laws utterly stupid. What you need is a revision of the law. You also need all these pathetic people who say "Oh noes, he touched my shoulder/hand/forearm/, RAPE!" to shut the hell up unless it IS proper sexual assualt

 

[DaMaN]

The problem with S.H. laws, is that they are based on ideals which can be taken out of a normal situation (Eg. According to law, bumping into someone could be deemed a sexual offence.) which essentially makes the laws utterly stupid. What you need is a revision of the law. You also need all these pathetic people who say "Oh noes, he touched my shoulder/hand/forearm/, RAPE!" to shut the hell up unless it IS proper sexual assualt

Ah, but that could lead to people not speaking out against genuine cases.

-DaMaN

 

[Llama]

True, but All law hangs on the premise that people will want to expose the criminals in their society, take away that premise and law becomes worthless and irrelevant.

 

[gh0st]

ok daman, my point is that i dont think its sexual harassment, and you do.

end.

 

[15357]

SH laws are actually laws preventing people from annoying someone of the other sex.


Which sucks.

 

[gick]

Well gee, thats newsworthy.

We all know Bush is a dumbass, but if it really was sexual harrassment, do you think he'd do it to a (not very good looking) world leader, in front of all the press and other heads of state?

 

[mortiz]

Yes, you can see from that photo, she definitely loved it. That's about as much a grimace as I've ever seen.