Bush / Kerry debate

Next one october 8th, town hall event, that'll be a good one to see.
 
seinfeldrules said:
Stereo you didnt say a single positive thing about Bush in your 'factual' analysis. I wonder who you support...

Maybe a lack of positive things to say...?
 
seinfeldrules said:
Stereo you didnt say a single positive thing about Bush in your 'factual' analysis. I wonder who you support...

He supports no one. He gives facts, and the actual hard facts are apparently biased agaisnt Bush.
 
Im surprised Kerrys wife the phycopath didnt kill somebody in the crowd with a ketchup bottle.
 
I love how Bush subtly implies in his closing speech that we will be attacked if Kerry is elected. Yeah thats how we build a stronger America, fear. Way to go Bush.
 
If your IQ is kind of on the low side, you'll find Bush's speech much better for you to understand and that Kerry is an unsecure piece a shit that won't lead your country anywhere.

DUDE I realiszed that after sh00tin' that last deer for dinna. I mean all us Buch suppotrerts are soooooo dumb. You liberals seem to think that you are somehow so superior to anyone who doesnt agree with you. Grow up.
 
seinfeldrules said:
Stereo you didnt say a single positive thing about Bush in your 'factual' analysis. I wonder who you support...

That's because I was watching the debate. I said my opinions based on what I was watching, not feeling. I have no love for Bush, its true, but I am certainly not in bed with Kerry. I don't vote Left or Right.
 
Sprafa said:
You can take 2 separate conclusions.

If you're smart, you can see that Kerry gave more backup to his speech and had it all planned out.

If your IQ is kind of on the low side, you'll find Bush's speech much better for you to understand and that Kerry is an unsecure piece a shit that won't lead your country anywhere.
Of course Bush is easier to understand, you can sum up everything he said in 30 seconds without missing a single spot. Even if you support Bush or have the same ideas as him, it is clear that Kerry won this debate.
 
seinfeldrules said:
To everyone watching, Bush nailed Kerry on this. Why doesnt Kerry rebuke his statements and explain them? Because he knows he got nailed.

Obviously he did not "nail" Kerry on this to "everyone watching".

Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone else watching shared it. I certainly don't. I edited my last post to explain this a bit more as well.

As for why Kerry doesn't go into details to rebuke it could be because there are complicated issues involved with these decisions and to spend the time trying to explain all the circumstances involved would not be a good idea in a debate where time limits are so crucial.
 
Sprafa said:
He supports no one. He gives facts, and the actual hard facts are apparently biased agaisnt Bush.
Ahahaha get real Sprafa. He called Bush a 'tool' and couldnt get past his speech problems. Its like saying all my analysis was factual, get real, it is opinionated.
 
Some of the same stuff kept coming up... actually pretty good, though. :)
 
Neutrino said:
Obviously he did not "nail" Kerry on this to "everyon watching".

Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone else watching shared it. I certainly don't. I edited my last post to explain this a bit more as well.

As for why Kerry doesn't go into details to Rebuke it could be because there are complicated issues involved with these decisions and to spend the time trying to explain all the circumstances involved would not be a good idea in a debate where time limits are so crucial.
If you quoted me, at least spell it like I did. Apparently all us Conservatives are dumb, no need to perpetuate this notion. And notice on the post above I said my analysis was opinionated, if I said it like a fact I apologize, got caught up in the moment.

*Thanks for fixing it :thumbs:
 
seinfeldrules said:
Ahahaha get real Sprafa. He called Bush a 'tool' and couldnt get past his speech problems. Its like saying all my analysis was factual, get real, it is opinionated.

No dude. I called you a Tool. Not Bush. People who are follow parties remain ignorant to the truth. Left AND Right. I will choose whom I will vote for, maybe, a week before November.
 
Well, I'm glad I got to watch it on Yahoo. I'll have to see if I can get it somewhere else to review it again as well.

Overall, I'm disapointed that it's not a real debate, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

Kerry did quite well in my opinion.

seinfeldrules said:
*Thanks for fixing it :thumbs:

Sorry about that. Was just a typo. :)
 
seinfeldrules said:
If you quoted me, at least spell it like I did. Apparently all us Conservatives are dumb, no need to perpetuate this notion. And notice on the post above I said my analysis was opinionated, if I said it like a fact I apologize, got caught up in the moment.

*Thanks for fixing it :thumbs:
I don't dislike conservatives, Bush just gives them a bad name. A stereotype if you will.
 
And just so stern doesnt think I am running away ;) I have an essay to write so I wont be able to respond to everything.
 
I'd say this debate was close, perhaps a small win for Bush. But lets face it, international policy (believe it or not), is Bush's strong point in the US.

I think Kerry will do much better during the domestic debate.
 
seinfeldrules said:
I swear I only called you a tool!

Bush can't be a Tool if he doesn't follow debate rules. He inturrupted the moderater several times. If anyone was a Tool in the actual debate - it was Kerry.
 
I dunno if you guys talked about this in the previous pages... but who do you think is right about North Korea? Talks or not?
 
ShadowFox said:
I'd say this debate was close, perhaps a small win for Bush. But lets face it, international policy (believe it or not), is Bush's strong point in the US.

I think Kerry will do much better during the domestic debate.

If you think this was a win for Bush and this was his strongest topic, he will absolutely get shot down in the next debate. I still think it's obvious Kerry was more prepared. He seemed more geniune. Bush was just the same old same old...... :|
 
Did you read your own quote Stereo. And by the way, I am holding my breath to see who you chose two days before the election. I really am. It wasnt obvious at all in your comments.
 
ShadowFox said:
But lets face it, international policy (believe it or not), is Bush's strong point in the US.

Sadly, in my opinion, a lot of people agree with that.

But for the life of me I truly can not understand how in the world that is. I could go on and on about it, but I just don't get how people can see his actions in foreign affairs as good things. To me he has bungled practically every single important international action he's been a part of.
 
seinfeldrules said:
Did you read your own quote Stereo. And by the way, I am holding my breath to see who you chose two days before the election. I really am. It wasnt obvious at all in your comments.

I am a Christian Against Abortion. Where does that put me? I must be Republican.
 
I am a Christian Against Abortion

As am I, which makes just about everything discussed tonight background noise, but I still find it interesting.
 
mashed said:
As am I, which makes just about everything discussed tonight background noise, but I still find it interesting.
I find people who consider abortion to be the #1 issue very interesting, especially if they aren't women.
 
Why did Bush keep going back to accusing Kerry of not supporting our troops in Iraq. Even after Kerry repeatedly said that he supported the troops. It was clear that he was attacking Bush's motivations for going to Iraq, not the soldiers. What a joke, I find it downright offensive.
 
mashed said:
Stereo said:
I am a Christian Against Abortion. Where does that put me? I must be Republican.
As am I, which makes just about everything discussed tonight background noise, but I still find it interesting.

I'm an intelligent realist against bible thumpers forcing their religious beliefs on others, so I guess I'm in the same boat. (just background noise)
 
Neutrino said:
Sadly, in my opinion, a lot of people agree with that.

But for the life of me I truly can not understand how in the world that is. I could go on and on about it, but I just don't get how people can see his actions in foreign affairs as good things. To me he has bungled practically every single important international action he's been a part of.

In contrast, for the life of me I cannot see how you feel that way. America sees George Bush as a man who loves America to the death and wont let anything harm it. He is willing to take the battle to the offensive and strike the enemy before they can do the same to us. They see him as a man who is fed up with the politics in the UN and is finally looking out for world peace. Take it for what you will, but that is how it is.
 
I can't believe John Kerry brought up the body armor issue, but then I am more flabbergasted that in the one minute re-rebuttle Bush got that he didn't point out right then "That's in the 87 billion, THAT YOU VOTED AGAINST, AFTER SAYING IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO VOTE AGAINST"

Bush could've easily knocked him out, he had many chances to DESTROY him on that- such as made up issues. Kerry claimed that Bush cut funding to end nuclear proliferation, and Bush gave him the FACT that "Actually, no, funding has INCREASED by a full 35%"

Bush could've knocked him out of the race almost and I don't see why he didn't go full out.
 
ShadowFox said:
I find people who consider abortion to be the #1 issue very interesting, especially if they aren't women.

I find people who are preoccupied with another person's political priorities to be... an idiot.
 
mashed said:
As am I, which makes just about everything discussed tonight background noise, but I still find it interesting.

What!? How in the world can you say that?

International relations, terrorism, a war which killed thousands, and nuclear proliferation are just background noise to you?

Wow. I can't even comprehend that sort of attitude.

RakuraiTenjin said:
Bush could've knocked him out of the race almost and I don't see why he didn't go full out.

Bush is a good debater. I'm sure he is more than capable of handling himself. The fact that he didn't "knock" kerry out on those issues might mean there is more going on than meets the eye and perhaps your view of Kerry being completely in the wrong might be a bit skewed. Don't you think Kerry was so obviously in the wrong Bush would have done something about it? That he didn't might tell you something perhaps.
 
scatr99 said:
Why did Bush keep going back to accusing Kerry of not supporting our troops in Iraq. Even after Kerry repeatedly said that he supported the troops. It was clear that he was attacking Bush's motivations for going to Iraq, not the soldiers. What a joke, I find it downright offensive.
Yeah, Kerry really showed his support when he accused all the American soldiers of being war criminals when returning home from Vietnam. He also showed it by voting for the 87 billion dollar bill to help provide equipment for them.
 
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