China and Taiwan: Followup

gh0st said:
Bring it on. I'd personally kill 1.5 billion commies :rolleyes: Especially if they are brainwashed commies.

by the way mortiz, how do you explain Alexander the Great controlling the vast territory he conquered with so few troops?
Wow, you never fail to amaze me with your idiotic remarks.

I would just like you to know that my good friend's parents, who live in China, don't want to kill you even if you are brain washed by the Republican talking points.

If this turns in to a war (which I pray it never does) I hope our government (which will institute a draft) slaps you with a m16 and drops you alone right in the middle of the 1.5 billion commies, lets see how long your arrogant ass lasts.
 
wow ghost your a mean person.
and I agree with Bliink they will use nukes.If they want to :(
 
Lemonking said:
wow ghost your a mean person.
and I agree with Bliink they will use nukes.If they want to :(


They won't, it would be a very last resort if America were to try to invade China.
 
Razor said:
They won't, it would be a very last resort if America were to try to invade China.

na they dont have the moral and ethic feelings as us westerners :farmer:
 
No Limit said:
Wow, you never fail to amaze me with your idiotic remarks.
Thanks it means a lot.
I would just like you to know that my good friend's parents, who live in China, don't want to kill you even if you are brain washed by the Republican talking points.
Oh did I offend you I'm terribly sorry :rolleyes:
If this turns in to a war (which I pray it never does) I hope our government (which will institute a draft) slaps you with a m16 and drops you alone right in the middle of the 1.5 billion commies, lets see how long your arrogant ass lasts.
It wont need to be drafted, I would be going willingly. Give me 1.5 billion bullets and there will be 1.5 billion dead commies. Actually I'd probably need a machete or something, and when that gets dull from lopping the communist onslaughts arms and heads off I'll just use peoples dismembered limbs as a weapon. You are so naive, I cant believe you take things so seriously.
 
Guys, drop this spoon fed patriotism for a second. U.S.A won't win the war vs China. I'm a Republican and I support the war in Iraq, so don't give me that "You are just a pussy democrat" remark. We may have better technology than China, but they have more people. And they arn't trained worse than us, just because they are "Chinese" doesn't mean they are incompetent. An AK can kill a man just as well as an M16 can, and our mortars may be twice as good as the Chinese mortars, but that doesn't stop them from bombing us. We arn't invincible. We can not win the war. They have many more people. Right now, China is on track to becoming a superpower in a 10 or more years.
 
JudgeWorm said:
Guys, drop this spoon fed patriotism for a second. U.S.A won't win the war vs China. I'm a Republican and I support the war in Iraq, so don't give me that "You are just a pussy democrat" remark. We may have better technology than China, but they have more people. And they arn't trained worse than us, just because they are "Chinese" doesn't mean they are incompetent. An AK can kill a man just as well as an M16 can, and our mortars may be twice as good as the Chinese mortars, but that doesn't stop them from bombing us. We arn't invincible. We can not win the war. They have many more people. Right now, China is on track to becoming a superpower in a 10 or more years.
http://www.comw.org/cmp/fulltext/iddschina.html

The author of that knows alot more about the Chinese military than any one of us here I should say.
 
JudgeWorm said:
Guys, drop this spoon fed patriotism for a second. U.S.A won't win the war vs China. I'm a Republican and I support the war in Iraq, so don't give me that "You are just a pussy democrat" remark. We may have better technology than China, but they have more people. And they arn't trained worse than us, just because they are "Chinese" doesn't mean they are incompetent. An AK can kill a man just as well as an M16 can, and our mortars may be twice as good as the Chinese mortars, but that doesn't stop them from bombing us. We arn't invincible. We can not win the war. They have many more people. Right now, China is on track to becoming a superpower in a 10 or more years.

First off... I'll have you know my patriotism is bottle fed, not spoon fed!

Secondly. I'm not gonna get much into the whole argument, but let me just say this. Numbers, throughout history, have both been proven effective at overwhelming opponents, but also in history, they have been proven to be a great hinderance.

You have to remember that the sheer amount of people can either be both for china. THey might have a 2 million plus man army, but that is an army that needs to be FED. It's not easy feeding 2+ million people in an area of the world that is notorious for its hunger. If the war got really nasty, america has a far greater chance of destroying the food supplies for the chinese by firebombing, etc those ricefields and other means of food, than they have a chance against us. Not to mention water supply, etc. If the war truely got nasty, while still remaining without nuclear arms, I think United States could have the upper hand in poisoning/bombing food/water supplies, etc. A man can only survive so long without adequate food and water, and even less time before he loses his battle effectiveness.
 
I doubt America would turn to such guerrila tactics such as attacking rice fields which are opperated by civilians. Come to think of it, China wouldn't do anything like that either.
 
JudgeWorm said:
I doubt America would turn to such guerrila tactics such as attacking rice fields which are opperated by civilians. Come to think of it, China wouldn't do anything like that either.

I said if the war got nasty, and with all likelihood, it would.

Still, the fact remains that the more people you have to feed, especially in wartime, the greater hinderance you have.
 
China's quasi Communism can quickly mobilize food production too, and take food away without paying for it, etc. If they can sustain themselves now, they can sustain themselves in times of war too, especially as people begin to die they will not need to feed as many people.
 
Laivasse said:
The knowledge that you're not even a rare type of person makes me want to live on another ****ing planet. At least I'll shed no tears when this one bites the dust.

Physically being able to kill that many people is going to present a challenge. In fact, I doubt its even possible. Mass nuclear explostions sure, but we are not going to do that. No point in winning if we have no planet to live on. China could easily field a well equipped (well equipped enough for smal arms fighting anyway) army of perhaps 100 million men without any trouble. Sure it would take maybe 6 months to train them, but thats not so long. And this would be the best deal many of the peasants in China had. Free food. Free lodging. Free clothes. Join the army.

So while the ambition might be to kill 1.5 billion commies - thats a really hard thing to do. Best you could hope for would be to contain them and make them give up.
 
I doubt America would turn to such guerrila tactics such as attacking rice fields which are opperated by civilians. Come to think of it, China wouldn't do anything like that either.

Are you for real? Both sides will do whatever it takes to win. Whatever. Don't think this is a fight in the ring with Marquis of Queensbury rules and a referee who jumps in to pull the fighters apart. China and the USA will fight unrestricted warfare against each other trying to destroy each other anyway they can. The only thing that may not be used is nuclear weapons, for a time. But if one side starts losing, that restriction will be gone as well. Don't kid yourself about having a 'nice' war.
 
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