China threatens nukes against America

[Gray Fox]

Well, here's a link that's better than any of your links! Nyah! And to tide you over until you decide to click it, here's a quote from Alija Izetbegovic's book, The Islamic Declaration:

"... We would like to distinguish between Jews and Zionists, but only if Jews themselves find strength to find the difference. We hope that the military victories, which they had against quarrelling Arab regimes, (not against Arabs or against Muslims) will not blur their minds. We hope that they will eliminate confrontation which they made by them- selves, so the new road is open to a life on the common ground of Palestine. If they, though, continue on the road of arrogance, which is more likely, then for the whole Islam movement, and FOR ALL MUSLIMS THERE IS BUT ONE SOLUTION: TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT, TO STRENGTHEN AND BROADEN IT, FROM DAY TO DAY, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, NO MATTER THE VICTIMS AND NO MATTER THE TIME it may last, until they are forced to RETURN EVERY INCH OF THE OCCUPIED LAND. EVERY NEGOTIATION AND EVERY COMPROMISE ON THIS FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE FOR OUR BROTHERS IN PALESTINE, WILL BE A TREASON WHICH MAY DESTROY THE VERY CORE OF THE MORAL SYSTEM OF OUR WORLD.

These are not new laws of our new Islam politics toward Christians and Jews, not new laws dictated by the new political situation. They are just the practical conclusions taken from the Islamic recognition of Christians and Jews which come right from the Qu'ran." (Qu'ran, 29/45, 2/136, 5/47-49)

pp. 53-54

or

"... In one of the thesis for an Islamic order today we have stated that it is a natural function of the Islamic order to gather all Muslims and Muslim communities throughout the world into one. Under present conditions, this desire means a struggle for creating a great Islamic federation from Morocco to Indonesia, from the tropical Africa to the Central Asia. ..."

p. 46

Nope, no fundamentalists here. No one who wants a Muslim state at all :-\
Of course, this is all off-topic, so agree to disagree with me too? Your view is interesting and worth examining, but this is neither the time nor the place for either of us:cheers:

Ok....

 

[Moto]

If a missile was launched, the United States would bring out counter-measures that we don't know of yet. They probably have amazing defenses against this kind of thing that they would only expose in the event of an attack. At least you would hope so.

 

[Raziaar]

If a missile was launched, the United States would bring out counter-measures that we don't know of yet. They probably have amazing defenses against this kind of thing that they would only expose in the event of an attack. At least you would hope so.

You never know. THat could be a very real possibility. The states have always been VERY protective of their secret projects, and there could be many things we have no idea even exist.

Very real possibility, even likely.

 

[The Mullinator]

Problem is most people believe China is "teh evil outpost of tyranny and commies"

when in reality they are a top trading partner in the world, and their citizens lives are improving vastly every year. They are trying to expose corruption everywhere within the heirachy of the communist party, because without combatting that you have no law, you have anarchy.

Ruling 1.4 billion people is a mammoth task, especially for a developing and rapidly industrialising country, so human rights are not what they seem. The only real power the central government have over the local governments is the army. Which is why they may feel Taiwan is a renegade province. However the main opposition parties have met with the Chinese leaders, and commented later with George Bush: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-07/20/content_461819.htm

Even Hu Jintao was invited to the G8 meetings in Gleneagles, Scotland for discussions, and Rice met him in China. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-07/10/content_458850.htm
The Chinese now have a sense of national pride, which before, they didn't have, they did have reeducation during the cultural revolution yes, but now they are extremely patriotic. Before they just allowed themselves to be treated like shit, allowed the western and Japanese nations to walk all over them. Mao Zedong, with a bad reputation in the west, told them to recognise that they are Chinese and should be proud of it. With a lot of blood loss of course and he wasn't blameless for the unnecessary loss of life. Soon they may become one of, if not the most powerful nations in the world.
If that threatens you, you need to ask why? Does their military budget stretch as far as yours?

To the Western world if they become the most powerful then yes it would be a threat. Think about it. Asian economies are fast growing while Western ones are slowing right down. If China becomes a super power then I have no reason to doubt they would keep to their Asian markets leaving countries like Canada, UK, German, and of course the US out in the cold. Its not like if China becomes a world super power that the rest of the Western world would maintain its current standards of living. On the contrary, I see them dropping.

Besides, thats just the economic problems, conflict with China is innevitable if you ask me, and no its not going to be because China is the evil communist empire or the US is the evil arrogant expansionist. Its going to be because they East and the West are simply not compatable at the moment.

Also don't be so moronic to say that China wouldn't invade because we have a better military. No one said that they would invade now and the fact is China has been advancing its military hardware at an oustanding pace in recent years. Its only a matter of time before they reach a level that would pose a real threat if they were to invade Taiwan.

By the way in recent news:
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=a_bX6YPbVozc&refer=home
Its actually a minor change in the currency but the move is significant and a preview of what is to come. Truly in the next few years I am expecting the price of a lot of things to start rising.

 

[seinfeldrules]

And when I meet Chinese people I always argue for Taiwan independence. With Western people I tend to argue against it, just because I'd like to expand my and other people's ideas and understanding on the situation.

Why not argue your own opinion?

 

[kirovman]

Why not argue your own opinion?

That is my own opinion, I just am more moderate. And can understand each side's views. I am for it in someways, and against it in other ways, I don't see it as a Black and White situation. So I argue each point that I agree with, nothing more, I'm not going to make any hasty alliances.

 

[kaffo]

There has been lots of discussing who has the cruelest weapons, bragging.. Bombs that are able to erase a small country/per hit.

Would anyone in here mind justifying the use of nuclear- or "neutron bombs"?

I believe its impossible, prove me wrong.

 

[Raziaar]

There has been lots of discussing who has the cruelest weapons, bragging.. Bombs that are able to erase a small country/per hit.

Would anyone in here mind justifying the use of nuclear- or "neutron bombs"?

I believe its impossible, prove me wrong.

If aliens landed in france, I suppose it could be justified to use a neutron bomb to wipe away the taint







That way we can clear the path for an embassy of the alien planet.









:E

 

[CptStern]

you know I could probably point out how your unreasonable dislike for the french is idiotic ...but you do that so well yourself

 

[15357]

A nuclear bomb should be used in these conditions:

#1 Aliens have invaded

#2 An epidemic has occured and it is nessaccery to contain it.

#3 Jack Thompson lives there.

 

[Raziaar]

you know I could probably point out how your unreasonable dislike for the french is idiotic ...but you do that so well yourself

Sheesh. Don't get your panties so much in a bunch over a joke, stern.

I don't hate the french. I'm just being a smartass.

 

[CptStern]

sure pally

 

[15357]

sure pally

Sarcasm?

 

[Raziaar]

sure pally

Don't have the energy to form any decent posts today stern?

 

[CptStern]

what for? it's not like you could formulate an effective counter-argument