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  • I don't care post a better thread next time Stryyder

    Votes: 33 33.7%
  • Right on I believe that is true

    Votes: 29 29.6%
  • Pure Speculative BS who the hell posted this.

    Votes: 53 54.1%
  • NANANANA I AM NOT LISTENING TO JOO

    Votes: 39 39.8%

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Historically, Valve has not been afraid to drastically revamp projects that they feel isn't meeting their high standards. Half-Life 2 is likely going through the same process (at least to some small extent) at this point. Could this mean another one year delay? Beats me, but one would think HL2 would be slightly harder to develop than CS: CZ.

Found this out on the web anybody want to comment.
 
If they are reworking the game completely, why don't they just tell us. Right now, we are all hanging by the hook, wondering wtf is going on at valve.
 
Originally posted by Sushi
If they are reworking the game completely, why don't they just tell us. Right now, we are all hanging by the hook, wondering wtf is going on at valve.

I agree, and also id like to add Valve suck.
 
I voted for all 4, seeing as how it's not a radio button poll :)

Anyhow, I'd doubt VALVe would be reworking HL2 all together. I do wonder what's going on at VALVe HQ, though, but I'm sure it's all for good reasons.
 
that quote is from planethalflife.com forums
I believe thats what fragmaster had to say.
its also one big rumor, no use commenting on it, and its dealing with CS:CZ not Hl2 :/
 
Valve really should release a statement... but what are you gonna do. Just go and play another game that you know exists and is on your hard drive. If that bores you, go and buy another game. If that also bores you, read a book.
 
Well!

I've been here since May, and one thing I know for sure is that Valve isn't particularly known for making public statements, especially when it comes to the game design progress.

e.g. They didn't even want to tell us if they were workign on those stupid videos or not in August.

But of course people made up these weird LOCKDOWN theories and what else. In fact, Valve is operating exactly as they used to.
 
I don't believe in anyone unless it's Doug Lombardi of Gabe Newell that made a statement themselves... ya' just can't these days anyways.
 
I'd generally trust most of the better known from VALVe (Greg Coomer, Erik Johnson, plus the ones you mentioned, and etc) with statements, but yeah, unless it comes from VALVe, then it's all rumor..
 
I wouldn't be so quick to trust statements from Valve myself. I won't believe anything until the game is installed and running... nicely.
 
Well, I was more so saying, if VALVe came out tomorrow saying "HL2 will ship December and be available on the 23rd of December", but on the other hand, we if we had Vivendi coming out and saying April 2004, I'd go with VALVe.
 
If you look at valves history they have always had delays so this game is no different. The question is, how many delays will there be ?
 
It's speculative bullshit, Valve wouldn't have made the mistake to tell about the game in april if it wasn't even close to their expectations. Just doesn't make any sense for them.
They waited until they could make a pretty accurate determination about the release date (without the hacking, they would be off by 2 months, not much in 5 years developement), why would they do that if the game was still total crap?
 
Originally posted by LoneDeranger
Well!

I've been here since May, and one thing I know for sure is that Valve isn't particularly known for making public statements, especially when it comes to the game design progress.

e.g. They didn't even want to tell us if they were workign on those stupid videos or not in August.

But of course people made up these weird LOCKDOWN theories and what else. In fact, Valve is operating exactly as they used to.
ditto
:cheers:
 
well it is taken out of context.
he explicitly states that its just a rumor, cant he have an opinion?
I just find it interesting that Stryyder (who slams and questions fragmaster's opinions) would go to his forums, quote him.. then post it here stating (I found this somewhere on the internet)
as if its some ploy to make people slam Fragmaster inadvertantly.
thats childish.

Fragmaster stated that it was nothing more than a rumor, and to not take it to heart, he said he didnt even believe it.

then he added his opinion.
there should be a forum rule, no slamming on Fragmaster... geez guys focus your hate somewhere else.. its just one guy with his own opinion... dont like it? Dont read it!

(just so you know, I dont even know the guy, I do believe he posts his opinions rather poorly, however thats his perogative, I just dont visit PHL anymore)
 
I believe polls are overused and unnecessary to get a response from people for a quote.
 
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Voluntary polls have an inherent bias, anyway.

and my voluntary responses are inherently incoherent due to the fact that my logic is decisively as flawed as my opinions are redundant...... Captain.
 
Speculation is by definition not bullshit. It's just that, speculation.

:afro:
 
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Voluntary polls have an inherent bias, anyway.

true, surprising though all the options are so close. You would think that because any question by definition attracts a certain type of person to answer, that one option would safely be in the lead.
 
Originally posted by LoneDeranger
Valve isn't particularly known for making public statements, especially when it comes to the game design progress.
Or imminent delays.

Seeing them make a big fuss then suddenly relapse into Area 51 mode has been frustrating. Come on, Valve, throw us a bone! It'd be one thing if they hadn't said anything at all, but to build up anticipation only to refuse to make any further comments is pretty lame.
Originally posted by NSPIRE
I don't believe in anyone unless it's Doug Lombardi of Gabe Newell that made a statement themselves... ya' just can't these days anyways.
To be honest, I don't really trust them, either, seeing as they deceived us for six months by pretending the game was on schedule when they had to be fully aware they were going to have to delay it.

The only thing I'm going to believe is when I have the game in my hands.
 
Originally posted by Mr. Redundant
I just find it interesting that Stryyder (who slams and questions fragmaster's opinions) would go to his forums, quote him.. then post it here stating (I found this somewhere on the internet)
as if its some ploy to make people slam Fragmaster inadvertantly.
thats childish.

Or maybe he didnt quote it as Fragmaster because so many people here hate him and would be completely biased about it just because it was Fragmaster who said it.
 
Actually it was an experiment.

IF I said it was fragmaster at first it would have immediately polorized the group between those that hate him and those that do not and I would have been accused of starting a you hate fragmaster thread, which again I will state that I do not hate him. I even agree with him sometimes but I disagree with some of his methods and how he delivers his message sometimes.

By not saying who it was the responses are generally more constructive, and those who would normally either dismiss it or take it as gospel because it was from him tend to answered how they really felt about the comment instead of how they feel about him.

I am just trying to see if the views and opinions that he is expressing are or are not inline with the views and expressions of others in the community.

I guess you can call this a social experiment. Regardless I figured it would be interesting as the last post of this nature that I started had 100 responses and about 1000 views before it was closed because of evilewok trolling before he got banned.

As I have said before vigorous discussion is good for the mind..
 
argh. I want another option in this pole:

"It could well be true, but its unlikely"

just for me! :D




But yeah, if its delayed because they need to rewrite some of the netcode and steam stuff or anything like that then I can see the artists, modelers and animaters messing arround making new stuff for the game to make it even beter. :)
 
OAAA !! for fack sake, only beacause you little teens with no lifes dosent get to play HL2 on time, u go and bitching about it, and blame Valve?

Do u want a crappy unstable game or a fine tuned one? Take you pick..

And almost all games are late nowadays.. Wah tare u gonna do about it? Thats right. NOTHING !! So grow up and get a life.. There is a "world" beyond the door u know.
 
No need to have a strop. And i'll have you know. I have a very active life away from this damned (powerfull) computer! :)
 
Originally posted by Crass
OAAA !! for fack sake, only beacause you little teens with no lifes dosent get to play HL2 on time, u go and bitching about it, and blame Valve?

Do u want a crappy unstable game or a fine tuned one? Take you pick..

And almost all games are late nowadays.. Wah tare u gonna do about it? Thats right. NOTHING !! So grow up and get a life.. There is a "world" beyond the door u know.

Judging by your sentence structure, grammar, spelling and typing skills, I picture you to be younger than a teenager. Posts like this make me wonder..
 
Originally posted by Crass
OAAA !! for fack sake, only beacause you little teens with no lifes dosent get to play HL2 on time, u go and bitching about it, and blame Valve?

Do u want a crappy unstable game or a fine tuned one? Take you pick..

And almost all games are late nowadays.. Wah tare u gonna do about it? Thats right. NOTHING !! So grow up and get a life.. There is a "world" beyond the door u know.

no offense bro, but what are you jabbering about?
perhaps you should read through the thread before spamming.
the topic doesnt even have anything to do with HL2 being delayed.
calling people "teens" and then proceeding to mispell nearly every second word is'nt quite impressive, although from your grammar I come to the conclusion that your first language is not english.

:)
btw welcome to the forums.


EDIT: damn you Shuzer
 
Heheh, come on guys. We need people like this to keep the humor going! :p


And yes, if your gona insult people at least do it properly mate. :)
 
Originally posted by Crass
OAAA !! for fack sake, only beacause you little teens with no lifes dosent get to play HL2 on time, u go and bitching about it, and blame Valve?

Do u want a crappy unstable game or a fine tuned one? Take you pick..

And almost all games are late nowadays.. Wah tare u gonna do about it? Thats right. NOTHING !! So grow up and get a life.. There is a "world" beyond the door u know.

No one here is bitching about the delay, we're purely speculating about what is happening behind the scenes at Valve.

So chill out mate, geez :farmer:
 
Originally posted by Stryyder
Who is the chick in your sig?

If you're talking about iamaelephant's avatar, it's Catherine Bell, aka. Jag's "Mac(k)"
 
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