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Hmmmm, very interesting. I'll have a proper look over this when I get in from work.
 
Hm, the UK hasn't done too bad actually, 9th is a pretty good position, highest of all the G8 nations at least. I don't know about our Freedom of the press ranking through, from what I've seen I think we've got a better freedom of the press than the U.S. in particular.
 
Wow, very interesting indeed.

Just used it as a source in the Castro thread(thx Stern :thumbs: ).

I always knew there was a reason I felt drawn to Scandinavia...:E
 
the democracy index shows one thing very clearly: Socialism FTW :naughty:
 
Our damn neighbours must always outshine us. If it's not Norway, it's Finland or Denmark! I say, invade the bastards!

:p
 
Caucasians owning the world again. Super race ftw.

Those African nations are totally screwed up.

Also, Russia and China? What shitholes.

Here ends my valuable contribution to the discussion.
 
The only thing that mattered to me was that the US was above France.... take that you snooty bastards!
 
Yay! We're ranked 7th on democracy ranking :p!

Though that amount could go down due to our latest fiasco involving our kabinet falling (again).

Ps, interesting to see scandinavian countries score so high, and other countries with relatively small populations or where density is thin.
Though we're the exception to that.
 
pvtbones said:
/me shakes fist at liberals.

quick question, when was this published? I can't find any dates to denote this as recent or old, etc.
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top of the table:

"democracy table March 2006"
 
This is a conspiracy perpetrated by the NWO to get you to believe in Belgium!
 
wtf, why does it say freedom of the press in America is greater than in the UK? We have one of the most unrestrained media networks in the world.

Unless i'm being a dick and reading it incorrectly :p
 
Llama said:
wtf, why does it say freedom of the press in America is greater than in the UK? We have one of the most unrestrained media networks in the world.

Unless i'm being a dick and reading it incorrectly :p
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The press has been so free, that it's now owned by monopolys with their own agendas.

I don't feel this place is very democratic.

We get a vote every couple of years or so, and that's the last I hear of democracy until the next vote.
 
CptStern said:
the democracy index shows one thing very clearly: Socialism FTW :naughty:
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I disagree comrade. The economies of the best countries on that chart are a combination of Socialism and Capitalism - kinda taking the best bits of both. Try finding the almost totally state run economies on that chart - you'll see that they dont rank all that highly at all....
 
/me pulls gun

socialism ftw, right comrade?


/me jots down gick's name and forwards it to the citizen dissident awareness program
 
Wow, we suck.

United States
14 Democracy Rank
13 Press Freedom Rank
14 Corruption Rank

So guys...what was that about american being the "beacon" of freedom throughout the world?
 
Out of curiosity, what are they basing these numbers on?

Lol @ Iran:

Democracy Rank = 132
Press Freedom Rank = 131
Corruption Rank = 76
 
We still suck none the less. Compared to...finland.

WE WERE BEAT BY THOSE FINNISH BASTARDS
 
Yay! 34th on the Democracy rating! 39th on press freedom!

the democracy index shows one thing very clearly: Socialism FTW
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*pushes battery into baton*

Damn unions...

Numbers: SK has a poor freedom of the press rating and a high corruption rating ..wow what a surprise
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But a great political rights score of 1 and 2! (1 is the best, methinks)

Wait, that doesn't makes sense.

When the press becomes too free, there begins..... problems..

Edit: Come to think of it, I can't understand the low freedom of the press score. We (the goverment) even give the newspapers funds and money so that they stay alive..... wtf?

I don't understand corruption as well, we crack down on corruption every few months..
 
Are there free and independent media, literature and other cultural expressions?
(Note: In cases where the media are state-controlled but offer pluralistic points of view, the Survey gives the system credit.) -Well, yes.

Are there free religious institutions and is there free private and public religious expression? yes.

Is there freedom of assembly and demonstration? -Somewhat.

Is there freedom of political or quasi-political organization? Yes, as long as it isn't communist.

Are there free trade unions and peasant organizations or equivalents, and is there effective collective bargaining? Are there free professional and other private organizations? (Note: This includes political parties, civic organizations, ad hoc issue groups, etc.) Too many...

Is there an independent judiciary? Kind of, nobody knows for sure....

Does the rule of law prevail in civil and criminal matters? Is the population treated equally under the law? Are police under direct civilian control? Yes, yes, and somewhat

Is there protection from political terror, and from unjustified imprisonment, exile or torture, whether by groups that support or oppose the system, and freedom from war and insurgency situations? (Note: Freedom from war and insurgencies enhances the liberties in a free society, but the absence of war and insurgencies does not in and of itself make a not free society free.) Um....... yes. yes. yes. and no (damn commies).

Is there freedom from extreme government indifference and corruption? yes

Is there open public discussion and free private discussion? As long as it's not communistic.

Is there personal autonomy? Does the state control travel, choice of residence, or choice of employment? Is there freedom from indoctrination and excessive dependency on the state? Yes. No. Um...... depends on what you mean by 'indoctrination'.

Are property rights secure? Do citizens have the right to establish private businesses? Is private activity unduly influenced by government officials, the security forces, or organized crime? Most capitalist country of the year award.

Are there personal social freedoms, including gender equality, choice of marriage partners, and size of family? Yes.

Is there equality of opportunity, including freedom from exploitation by or dependency on landlords, employers, union leaders, bureaucrats or any other types of obstacles to a share of legitimate economic gains? That question sucks.
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I did the checksheets. :p
 
how are these indexes calculated? because america is definately not 14th, 13th and 14th on that list.
 
lol, in terms of democracy?? think of all the electoral fraud that happened in america. In terms of freedom of the press? all your media indistries (which not only includes tv, but magazines, radio, etc) are owned by five huge corporations. In terms of curroption? lol...I would be suspscious of that list if america had figuers of 30.
 
Every nation has its share of corrupt politicians, my state alone is known for it. Our freedom of press is pretty average when a paper like the New York Times or a channel like Fox News is allowed to exist. Please, don't make assumptions.
 
15357 said:
I did the checksheets. :p
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there can be no exception to freedom, so instead of saying "yes except for communism" you need to change all those answers to no
 
No nation on this planet is truly free, there are always limitations. Numbers' nation has it toward communism. Communism would only destabilize the region there. And the fact that South Korea knows what communism could bring (i.e. North Korea), they have good reason to bar communism.
 
But we do it in order to save freedom! Read my thread! It says so right there, on the preamble!
 
you can't sacrifice freedom to protect freedom
 
But you can sacrifice some sorts of freedom for other, more needed freedoms.
 
DeusExMachina said:
Every nation has its share of corrupt politicians, my state alone is known for it. Our freedom of press is pretty average when a paper like the New York Times or a channel like Fox News is allowed to exist. Please, don't make assumptions.
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How about the US's democracy? People in the US have the freedom to not vote. What kind of freedom is that? When half the country doesn't vote, half the country doesnt get a say in how the country is run (or realises that having a say in the government is useless and achieves nothing). That doesn't sound like a very democratic and free nation to me.

That being said, the money laundering and amount of transactions made with drug dealings exceeds US $1 Trillion. The CIA is more of a Drug selling buisness then a intelligence agency. And thats not even mentioning what the lies of the corrupt Bush Administration have caused.

As for the media, Your press isn't free, It's the exact opposite. It COSTS. Why? because its owned by 5 huge media corporations, and in order to get your say on the media you need to pay alot of cash. That being said, there are many cases where even money doesn't allow you too freely express what you want to say. For example, A news program on the monsanto company drug for cows was not aired because monsanto and dairy product corporations threatened to pull away their advertising dollars. That's what happens when you throw you're media into the market. The things that get said are the things that make money. Truth? peh...if it doesn't make money it's not worth reporting. Infact, its not even illegal to lie on the media in your country.
 
You're an expert on all of this because you it somewhere on the internet? Please. Yes, let's FORCE everyone to vote. That'll solve all our problems. Especially when popular vote actually means an elected president. Oh wait, it doesn't. That's up to the electoral college. Our press is as free as I said it is. When you can garner up some actual evidence of all this crap, do post it. Take more after Stern and post some links before you actually propose all of this.
 
But there is no such thing as freedom, just only certain things you can/allowed do. Everything is bound by something...whether it be in science, religion, politics, or everyday life. We (americans) are allowed to do some things that other countries don't allow...that is all. But true freedom is being bound by nothing.

True freedom can only come when or animalistic natures are finally gone....which will not happen for a very VERY long time.

Anyways that's more of a philosophical statement then a political one, so meh.
 
Freedom is nothing more than what the laws don't say you can't do.
 
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