Do you believe in a god?

[Absinthe]

listen, forget that im calling it a religion, im going to call it a religion, because according to webster it is. im not going to try and convince you of that anymore, so move on.

No, posey. You're basing all your points on a single assertion that you have completely failed to back up. I'm not going to just let you slide on that because it affects all discussion of atheism. Your massive fundamental flaw permeates all other areas and makes it impossible for an accurate discussion to take place. So screw this, I can't debate you when your mind can't even take the first simple baby step on the matter. There's no point to any further involvement when you insist on founding an argument on your unsubstantiated bullshit claims.

So I'm done here.

 

[poseyjmac]

you are talking about baby steps? you deny the validity of websters dictionary. hows that for not being able to take a baby step. you are quite pathetic, and i agree, you are done here. go plague another thread with your bitterness and illogical closemindedness.

 

[Absinthe]

If you want to continue personally insulting me (as I have stopped), please continue to act like a childish prick.

Interesting you never posted links to the other forums.

 

[poseyjmac]

remember, i decided to stop answering your questions when you decided to stop answering mine. 2 of them are private anyway so a link wouldn't work. and you have never stopped insulting me, 90% of your posts are laced with insults to my intelligence

 

[Absinthe]

- You're any different?

- You actually completely ignored the first question I ever posed to you.

- Private forums. That's a good cop-out.

 

[KoreBolteR]

posey. absinthe likes to argue. takes things too seriously. just ignore him.

 

[Absinthe]

posey. absinthe likes to argue. takes things too seriously. just ignore him.

I argue when the opposition is wrong, which has repeatedbly been the case. Perhaps I'm too serious in your eyes because I have a low threshold for your brand of crap. I wonder what the point of taking you off my ignore list was.

No matter. I'll rectify the situation.

 

[KoreBolteR]

nevermind. ill discuss with you myself nextime

 

[Absinthe]

Since you asked me to remove you from my ignore list through Ennui. I'm reversing that though.

 

[poseyjmac]

yeah hes going on ignore. thing is a debate class would do wonders for him. oh well..

 

[Absinthe]

You know what would have done you some good?

http://www.hop.com/

EL OH EL

Maybe then you could actually understand what Webster says isntead of acting like a stupid clownboat.

 

[KoreBolteR]

absin, sent you a msg.

back on topic: there is no way we can find out if there is a god. i would like there to be some sort of leader up there. but not in human form. maybe a shark or mutant?

 

[poseyjmac]

yeah. darn direct copy and paste jobs from webster! from the clipboard to the screen it just gets all warped doesn't it?

 

[Ikerous]

Lol, i wonder if anyone other than posey actually thinks posey is right

 

[Nat Turner]

Lol, i wonder if anyone other than posey actually thinks posey is right

lol probably his mom gives him a shoulder to lean on

 

[spookymooky]

Btw, according to my bioethics teacher, term agnostic Atheist doesn't make sense. An Atheist is one who asserts that god does not exits, a Theist is one who asserts that it does, and an Agnostic doesnt know either way. This is just according to my bioethics teacher, who has degrees in Theology and Philosophy.

He also said that Agnostocism has many practical definitions, but that the philisophical one.

 

[poseyjmac]

pulling out the 'mom' jokes eh? i guess i struck more nerves than i thought.

 

[Nat Turner]

pulling out the 'mom' jokes eh? i guess i struck more nerves than i thought.

28 pages is bound to strike something.

 

[Ikerous]

Btw, according to my bioethics teacher, term agnostic Atheist doesn't make sense. An Atheist is one who asserts that god does not exits, a Theist is one who asserts that it does, and an Agnostic doesnt know either way. This is just according to my bioethics teacher, who has degrees in Theology and Philosophy.

What about someone who just plain doesn't believe in god, but doesn't assert anything?

 

[poseyjmac]

What about someone who just plain doesn't believe in god, but doesn't assert anything?

you just contradicted yourself. if you don't believe in god you are asserting that action.

 

[Raeven0]

I note that my minority has gotten significantly less minor.

 

[Ikerous]

Assert - To state or express positively; affirm

:/ Im no english major, but they seem different to me

I don't believe in god.
There is no god.

Those are completely different statements...

 

[Ennui]

I do not believe in god because there is no god. This is because there is no reason for god to exist. I am about as likely to believe in the Great Green Arkleseizure.

 

[Nat Turner]

I do not believe in god because there is no god. This is because there is no reason for god to exist. I am about as likely to believe in the Great Green Arkleseizure.

The Christian god or any metaphysical entity in general?

 

[Ennui]

No supreme being who created us. So, the christian god. I do have theories of my own about energy and metaphysical things like that, but it's more of a human connection / collective unconsciousness type thing. Makes sense to me that we'd have at least some form of nonphysical connection.

 

[Nat Turner]

No supreme being who created us. So, the christian god. I do have theories of my own about energy and metaphysical things like that, but it's more of a human connection / collective unconsciousness type thing. Makes sense to me that we'd have at least some form of nonphysical connection.

Yeah we're on the same track then.

 

[poseyjmac]

Assert - To state or express positively; affirm

:/ Im no english major, but they seem different to me

I don't believe in god.
There is no god.

Those are completely different statements...

I don't believe god exists is the same as there is no god. believing IN god is a TOTALLY unrelated topic which has no relevance here.

 

[Nat Turner]

I don't believe god exists is the same as there is no god. believing IN god is a TOTALLY unrelated topic which has no relevance here.

rofl look at the thread title

 

[Kmack]

believing IN god is a TOTALLY unrelated topic which has no relevance here.

um, could you please just type the title of the thread? and then post it side by side with this.

come on now kids, think before you type...

 

[Absinthe]

Btw, according to my bioethics teacher, term agnostic Atheist doesn't make sense. An Atheist is one who asserts that god does not exits, a Theist is one who asserts that it does, and an Agnostic doesnt know either way. This is just according to my bioethics teacher, who has degrees in Theology and Philosophy.

Not true. Gnosticism pertains to knowledge. "Knowing" is an entirely separate issue from "believing". So you can hold or withold faith in something without certainty.

An agnostic claims that gods cannot be proven or disproven, and rightly so. How does that stop somebody from believing or disbelieving in one?

I don't believe in god.
There is no god.

Those are completely different statements...

Bingo! You are a winner!

I swear I want to make out with you!

 

[Ikerous]

I don't believe god exists is the same as there is no god.

No it isn't...
I dont believe in god = Simply what i believe
There is no god = an affirmative statement declaring that he doesnt exist

Do you seriously think those statements are the same thing? You can't possibley...

believing IN god is a TOTALLY unrelated topic which has no relevance here.

::Looks at the title of the thread::
Im starting to realize why absinthe posted the link to hooked on phonics...

 

[poseyjmac]

the thread title is do you believe in 'a' god. believing in god is a different concept. do you not get that?

 

[Nat Turner]

No it isn't...
I dont believe in god = Simply what i believe
There is no god = an affirmative statement declaring that he doesnt exist

Do you seriously think those statements are the same thing? You can't possibley...

::Looks at the title of the thread::
Im starting to realize why absinthe posted the link to hooked on phonics...

He is unable to make the distinction, look back at the last 200 posts.

edit: 400

 

[Ikerous]

the thread title is do you believe in 'a' god. believing in god is a different concept. do you not get that?

lmao, you're arguing the fact that i didn't say 'a'? lmao, i have so much respect for absinthe being able to argue with someone who puts so much emphasis on pathetic semantics as yourself for so long

 

[Ennui]

poseyjmac quit stirring up shit just for the sake of stirring up shit, please.

 

[poseyjmac]

No it isn't...
I dont believe in god = Simply what i believe
There is no god = an affirmative statement declaring that he doesnt exist

uhh hello? they are both statements.

 

[poseyjmac]

lmao, you're arguing the fact that i didn't say 'a'? lmao, i have so much respect for absinthe being able to argue with someone who puts so much emphasis on pathetic semantics as yourself for so long

are you kidding me? there is a huge difference between believing in a god, and believing in god. THE god. do you need me to put the THE for you to understand?

 

[Ikerous]

uhh hello? they are both statements.

Yea.. but one is a statement about my personal beliefs, the other is a statement about god...
I can prove that i dont believe in god, i cant prove there is no god..

Completely different...

are you kidding me? there is a huge difference between believing in a god, and believing in god. THE god. do you need me to put the THE for you to understand?

Nope, still lost...

 

[poseyjmac]

Yea..

glad you can agree.

 

[short recoil]

Makes sense to me that we'd have at least some form of nonphysical connection.

What do you mean by this?

For anything to exist it must be there, yes we can only see whats there but it is surely a good standing point, because it works for our lives, there has never been much application for "non physical" never any absolute proof, because you cannot prove it(lets not get on a quantum mechanics discussion)

I believe we are purely like a machine, i'm interested by peoples ideas of having something non physical about life, but have never worked out any reason for the idea.