Do you believe in Aliens from outspace?

[SpotEnemyBoats]

Like the topic says, Do you believe in aliens from outspace & do you think they will one day take us over, invade us, or exterminate us all? :angel:

Whats your opinion?

This is what I think, When I played HL1 & HL2 they made me think of what can happen; just exit the "Hero" part out.

 

[pomegranate]

I don't believe they do exist, but I don't believe they don't exist, either.

 

[lePobz]

Sure they exist in one form or another. It'd be statistically impossible for them not to exist. I think the distances between us and the nearest intelligent lifeforms out there is too great for us to see/hear them in a long time, though.

Unless they're already here. All it takes is a galaxy to develop a bit sooner than ours (a few billion years is the blink of an eye in astrological terms) and these alien dudes are seriously advanced and probably already paying us visits, making use of their space-folding technology.

Either way, they're out there.

 

[zleppelin]

Sure they exist in one form or another. It'd be statistically impossible for them not to exist. I think the distances between us and the nearest intelligent lifeforms out there is too great for us to see/hear them in a long time, though.

Unless they're already here. All it takes is a galaxy to develop a bit sooner than ours (a few billion years is the blink of an eye in astrological terms) and these alien dudes are seriously advanced and probably already paying us visits, making use of their space-folding technology.

Either way, they're out there.

according to the pastor of the church I go to aliens don't exist. nuff said.

 

[brink's]

(a few billion years is the blink of an eye in astrological terms)

Not really, the universe is only about 14 billion years old.

 

[pomegranate]

according to the pastor of the church I go to aliens don't exist. nuff said.

You fail at thought.

 

[lePobz]

Not really, the universe is only about 14 billion years old.

OK, a million. It wouldn't take us a million years to develop some space folding technology.

Stop being pedantic, damn you all.

 

[brink's]

I believe they exist.

 

[zleppelin]

yeah but before the universe existed 14 billions years ago there must have been something "there" occupying all that space.

 

[lePobz]

yeah but before the universe existed 14 billions years ago there must have been something "there" occupying all that space.

The universe is the 4 dimensions. Without it, there's no space. Don't worry, your inferior human mind can't grasp the idea of nothing.

 

[brink's]

According to String theory the Universe actually has 11 dimensions.

 

[lePobz]

According to String theory the Universe actually has 11 dimensions.

Yeah, but what wacko would subscribe to string theory?

*awkward pause*

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

The universe is huge + the dimensions. With all this space there has to be other intelligent life forms out there; We are not the only ones in this large universe.

 

[bvasgm]

according to the pastor of the church I go to aliens don't exist. nuff said.

All religion = bullshit, nuff said.

Of course aliens exist, we're just so impossibly far away from each other that we'll never be able to communicate. Ever.

 

[zleppelin]

The universe is the 4 dimensions. Without it, there's no space. Don't worry, your inferior human mind can't grasp the idea of nothing.

universe

u·ni·verse
n
1. all matter and energy in space: the totality of all matter and energy that exists in the vastness of space, whether known to human beings or not

Matter + Energy != Time + 3D space

 

[brink's]

All religion = bullshit, nuff said.

Of course aliens exist, we're just so impossibly far away from each other that we'll never be able to communicate. Ever.

That's quite a claim, how do you know that some revolutionary breakthrough in physics/technology won't make interstellar travel possible....at one point.

 

[CrazyHarij]

universe

u·ni·verse
n
1. all matter and energy in space: the totality of all matter and energy that exists in the vastness of space, whether known to human beings or not

Matter + Energy != Time + 3D space

splitting hairs..

 

[zleppelin]

That's quite a claim, how do you know that some revolutionary breakthrough in physics/technology won't make interstellar travel possible....at one point.

Because nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Unless they figure out a way to travel through wormholes I guess.

 

[Solaris]

They probably exist.

Doubt they have ever visited though, there is certainly no evidence for it that isn't just unfounded speculation.

 

[bvasgm]

That's quite a claim, how do you know that some revolutionary breakthrough in physics/technology won't make interstellar travel possible....at one point.

Well, when I say "ever", what I really mean is "not soon enough for it to effect me so I don't care."

 

[brink's]

Well, when I say "ever", what I really mean is "not soon enough for it to effect me so I don't care."

That should have went without saying.

 

[kirovman]

yeah but before the universe existed 14 billions years ago there must have been something "there" occupying all that space.

That's like saying there must have been something on the Earth's surface, before the Earth was formed. But worse.

 

[Gargantou]

How can we know for sure that something can't travel faster than the speed of light? I mean, we've only explored a tiny part of the universe, isn't it possible that there might be some other form of energy or something out there in this huge bloody universe that IS faster than light?
Human ignorance is great, we like to think we know everything even though we've only explored a small part of 'everything'.

 

[The Brick]

There IS life on other planets. I saw it in a movie once.

 

[zleppelin]

That's like saying there must have been something on the Earth's surface, before the Earth was formed. But worse.

Cool. Way to steer this metaphysical discussion into a semantical argument.

 

[Neutrino]

Sure, they're probably other forms of life out there. To think we're unique is probably one of the bigger ego trips the human race has been on.

But with the size and age of the universe I doubt we'll ever meet another species. And if we do then more than likely we'll be millions of years apart in our evolution and devopment, making actual communcation highly improbable.

I always find it funny how science fiction always portrays aliens as being so human like and very near us in development. I mean compared to the time scale of billions of years the likely hood of meeting another race that was within a few hundred years either way of our own development is absurdly low. It's far more likely they'd be a few million years ahead or behind us.

 

[kirovman]

Not really. I was just making an analogy trying to explain why there was no space before the Universe existed.

 

[lePobz]

I always find it funny how science fiction always portrays aliens as being so human like and very near us in development, when the likelyhood of that is miniscule. Unless there are billions of alien races, in which case something like that could happen I guess.

I wondered this, and came to a sort of conclusion that we are humanoid because of evolution - We adapted to the environment here on earth - the gravity, the air, the vegetation ... I think another planet like earth would eventually spawn other humanoids in the same fashion, although with some differences based on the vegetation / gravity / air. The humanoid shape is the most efficient though, and I imagine aliens having a similar form.

 

[zleppelin]

Sure, they're probably other forms of life out there. To think we're unique is probably one of the bigger ego trips the human race has been on.

But with the size and age of the universe I doubt we'll ever meet another species. And if we do then more than likely we'll be millions of years apart in our evolution and devopment, making actual communcation highly improbable.

I always find it funny how science fiction always portrays aliens as being so human like and very near us in development, when the likelyhood of that is miniscule. Unless there are billions of alien races, in which case something like that could happen I guess.

and they might come in a different size too. Could be as big as King Kong or as small as a mouse.

 

[kirovman]

The humanoid shape is the most efficient though, and I imagine aliens having a similar form.

Efficient for what? A rather rash assumption, don't you think?

 

[lePobz]

Efficient for what? A rather rash assumption, don't you think?

I saw it on the telly. The humanoid shape is the peak of evolution, or something. On one of those discovery channel documentaries about aliens that you watch when there's nothing better on.

 

[Solaris]

How can we know for sure that something can't travel faster than the speed of light? I mean, we've only explored a tiny part of the universe, isn't it possible that there might be some other form of energy or something out there in this huge bloody universe that IS faster than light?
Human ignorance is great, we like to think we know everything even though we've only explored a small part of 'everything'.

If that sort of reasoning was correct there would be no point in scientifically prooving the above is impossible. We know you cannot travel faster than the speed of light becuase Einstein prooved it.

 

[kirovman]

I saw it on the telly. The humanoid shape is the peak of evolution, or something. On one of those discovery channel documentaries about aliens that you watch when there's nothing better on.

Ah right. Well, I think there's a lot we don't know about biology, so it could turn out there is superior life in the universe, not necessarily humanoid shape.

 

[ríomhaire]

I think there are aliens somewhere. Where's the poll?

 

[Neutrino]

I wondered this, and came to a sort of conclusion that we are humanoid because of evolution - We adapted to the environment here on earth - the gravity, the air, the vegetation ... I think another planet like earth would eventually spawn other humanoids in the same fashion, although with some differences based on the vegetation / gravity / air. The humanoid shape is the most efficient though, and I imagine aliens having a similar form.

I would tend to disagree. We're humanoid because we evolved from primates, not because we evolved on earth.

Why do you say the humanoid shape is the most efficient? Efficient at what? We're not the best swimmers, we're not the best runners, we're not the best jumpers...etc. Physically, we are very weak actually.

Maybe efficient in terms of object manipulation? Why? Don't you think four arms would be quite a bit more adept then two? An octopus is very agile at manipulating objects.

I saw it on the telly. The humanoid shape is the peak of evolution, or something. On one of those discovery channel documentaries about aliens that you watch when there's nothing better on.

I'd be highly interested to here who said that? I don't buy it.

 

[Solaris]

I would tend to disagree. We're humanoid because we evolved from primates, not because we evolved on earth.

Wrong. Simple proof of your wrongness, if the earths gravity was half the strength it is now, we would look very different.

Why do you say the humanoid shape is the most efficient? Efficient at what? We're not the best swimmers, we're not the best runners, we're not the best jumpers...etc. Physically, we are very weak actually.

We move most efficently.

 

[kirovman]

Wrong. Simple proof of your wrongness, if the earths gravity was half the strength it is now, we would look very different.

That's not proof, that's just you saying something would be different in a hypothetical situation.

We move most efficently.

Not compared to a lot of animals.

 

[VictimOfScience]

Yes, of course I do.

 

[Jimmeh]

The humanoid shape is kind of like the jack of all trades (master of none) really. We seem to be pretty adept at doing most things.

 

[Solaris]

That's not proof, that's just you saying something would be different in a hypothetical situation.

Exactly, the person doesn't actually understand evolution.
He thinks what we were before shapes us rather than our enviroment, which is silly(very obviously too, no?)

Not compared to a lot of animals.

I heard some guy on the radio say so (as weak as that is). Walking on 2 legs gives us lots of momentum and wastes less energy than say, hopping.