Isn't space infinite?
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Sure, we don't "know" how the universe came to exist. But we have very good data and evidence to predict how the universe probably came came exist. This is far more true of planet Earth than the universe itself, but you get the picture.
Unfortunately for you, atheism is not a religion. It's not that I "don't want to accept that fact", its just that logically atheism is defined as lacking a belief in a god. That's not a religion as much as preferring not to participate in sports is not a sport. Coming out as an atheist actually has brought a lot of suffering to my life. I am persecuted by my peers, despised by my parents, looked down upon by every Christian I meet. I didn't choose this path because I thought it would make me cool, or well liked, I chose it because it is what I reasoned to be true. To me, knowing the truth is far more important than being happy.
OK, so, will they look human, or just bacteria/virus like?^ I'm with Willie. You guys are being idiots. The lot of you.
No you idiot, don't you understand? Don't you see?!
I guess that your technically right, to another life form on another planet, we are aliens.
A little of everything I guess. That's like saying what "insects" are like. Well, what kind of insects? I do agree with what most others are saying though. I do believe in the possibility of sentient life, but I doubt we'll ever come in contact. BTW:I see you took my advice and grabbed yourself a crossbow avatar yes?
Hey, theotherguy. I never meant to come off as "high and mighty" and all knowing like some of the accusations flying around here. I'm simply trying to tell you what I have learned in the last 23 years (since my rude awakening) about God, and how I know him to be. I see that it is actually pretty hard to communicate that. My advice, if you are open and "seeking" like you say you are, open your heart and read the Bible, things will happen. It's not a brain washing tool, its a heart opening tool, and God comes in through the heart, and gets into your head. You will truly find the truth. If a hard case like me can find it, anyone can find it. I'm a Viet-Nam era war Vet, I was meaner then hell when I came home, nobody was going to tell ME anything about any God. It took quite a few years just to get rid of the chip on my shouder. You seem like a pretty darned bright guy, miles ahead of where I was back then. However, that sometimes can be detrimental to the opening of the heart, sorta gets in the way. I think you will figure this out.Sure, we don't "know" how the universe came to exist. But we have very good data and evidence to predict how the universe probably came came exist. This is far more true of planet Earth than the universe itself, but you get the picture.
Science works based on deductions, which themselves are based on evidence. We don't have to observe something directly to have a good idea of how it works, so long as there is enough evidence of the event after the fact.
Unfortunately for you, atheism is not a religion. It's not that I "don't want to accept that fact", its just that logically atheism is defined as lacking a belief in a god. That's not a religion as much as preferring not to participate in sports is not a sport. Coming out as an atheist actually has brought a lot of suffering to my life. I am persecuted by my peers, despised by my parents, looked down upon by every Christian I meet. I didn't choose this path because I thought it would make me cool, or well liked, I chose it because it is what I reasoned to be true. To me, knowing the truth is far more important than being happy.
Political parties ensure a majority vote in every election. They also help voters clarify positions and choose, ideologically, the party they find is best. Parties allow for political action whereas non-partisan politicians would be far more disorganized. The political parties in this country are actually far more centrist and alike than you might think, and the partisan wars are over far less radical issues than they might be in say, The Russian Federation. The fact of the matter is, people have different positions in life, and desire different actions from the government. There will always be political parties where differences in society are present, since people tend to maximize their own goals and agendas when voting.
A one party system is a horrible alternative. Consider the communists, the Nazis, or any of the scores of military police states which have existed. In a one party system, there is no dissent, no minority, only absolute power by one organized unit. And that unit might not always do what is best for the country.
Obviously atheists and people who hold a particular religion can only be right or wrong when it comes to god-belief. If a god exists, the atheist is wrong. If a particular god does not exist, the follower of that religion is wrong. There is no grey area. A particular god cannot "sort of" exist. This is why the argument is so polarized.
Let's do a thought experiment. Billy says to Mary ,Jimmy and Tom that a dime is on top of a cabinet which none of them can reach. When Mary asks Billy how he knows this, Billy says he "just feels it" in his heart. Mary says she doesn't believe there is a dime up there, lacking any evidence. Jimmy says "stop arguing! You're both just as wrong, neither of you is completely right at all."
Meanwhile, Tom solves the problem by getting a ladder, going up to the top of the cabinet, and proclaiming that he can see a dime up there.
Obviously, Billy was right, Mary was wrong, and Jimmy was just plain stupid.
We're talking about the existence of entities here. Entities either exist or they do not.
Nationalism, much?
Look, people generalize Americans because we really do have problems like obesity, brazen politics, and shitty foreign policy. Perhaps instead of whining about people making fun of us, we should fix those problems.
As for "being able to take over whenever they want," I'm pretty sure they're joking.
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I salute you
Atheists will only tell you the Bible was written by man. How can you really convince them otherwise?
That might be a good idea.Now, I'm going to drop out of this thread, a little too much negative vibes here for me.
You don't seem like a bad guy. You just have to be careful how you stand around here.A much wiser approach than posting religious stuff in the public forums. Yeah, nobody's perfect, like you said. I dislike the types that pretend to know everything, and if something is obviously inconclusive, they dismiss it as a fact that it doesn't exist.(i.e. there's no evidence to prove, so it must not exist) So annoying.
Why can't they just say, "I don't know"?. Is it that hard? P.S.>Sorry guys, now back to the aliens. Yes I do believe they exist. Next question.
How come you think every atheist is a strong atheist. I do not know how the universe came to be. Thats why I lack the belief in a god, and therefor I am an atheist. Lacking the belief in god is not saying god doesn't exist. You are just as bad as any strong atheist for believing in a god.
Hey, theotherguy. I never meant to come off as "high and mighty" and all knowing like some of the accusations flying around here. I'm simply trying to tell you what I have learned in the last 23 years (since my rude awakening) about God, and how I know him to be. I see that it is actually pretty hard to communicate that. My advice, if you are open and "seeking" like you say you are, open your heart and read the Bible, things will happen. It's not a brain washing tool, its a heart opening tool, and God comes in through the heart, and gets into your head. You will truly find the truth. If a hard case like me can find it, anyone can find it. I'm a Viet-Nam era war Vet, I was meaner then hell when I came home, nobody was going to tell ME anything about any God. It took quite a few years just to get rid of the chip on my shouder. You seem like a pretty darned bright guy, miles ahead of where I was back then. However, that sometimes can be detrimental to the opening of the heart, sorta gets in the way. I think you will figure this out.
You can start with the book of John, 3:16 thru 21, and work from there. You can do this!
Now, I'm going to drop out of this thread, a little too much negative vibes here for me.
However, if you wanted to email me sometime with any questions or discussions, feel free. I'm not so high and mighty, really. I've just been around awhile, and I'm still pretty rough around the edges.
Take care!
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Alien Erotica!
Hot.
Back on topic, who else thinks that Europa has a better chance of having life on it than Mars?!
Hot.
Back on topic, who else thinks that Europa has a better chance of having life on it than Mars?!
