do you guys thing pc's are the real gaming console?

[Goombatommy]

you really can't compare PC's to consoles. but PC's are the better gaming machines. You can customize both the PC and game itself to your likings, the better the hardware, the better the performance (in most cases..buahah).

 

[Valve_Assassin]

Meh, I don't mean to bring up the stupid and pointless argument of PC vs. Console. I just want to say that neither is really superior to the other. For those of you that say PC games ported to consoles are inferior, then you allready understand the reason that someone who plays alot of console games would say emulators are inferior, and I do say that.

Is there an ultimate gaming system. Nope. The end.

 

[Expansion Pack]

The PC cannot be beat when it comes to controling FPS and RTS games...Mouse and keyboard are just perfect,plus it can be upgraded till you hearts content and game's are usually cheaper on the PC and look better......and then you can surf or burn stuff or make mods or music or movies....The PC is open ended...console are good at what they do and that is play games..

 

[patto]

Computers may very well be beaten in the graphics department when PS3 & Xbox 2 come out.

Then again, those can't be upgraded (can they?) so they won't reign for long. But they're pure gaming consoles, so more games will be made for them than for the PC. ...which is unfortunate.

Consoles graphics haven't even come close to PCs and wont come close in the next couple of years. Console display on TVs and the average TV cannot even display 640x480 resolutions. Even the high definition standard can only effectively display ~1000 or so vertical lines.

Compare this to top of the line video cards which can happily run at 1600x1200. Even cheap video cards can display TV like resolution of 640x480.

Consoles have a VERY long way to come.

 

[Rocketman9mm]

I like my PC and keyboard/mouse for FPS games, but generally I'd rather do action/adventure games on the console. like prince of persia was great fun on my gamecube. Although i loved GTA 3 & VC on my pc. but since i have no playstation 2 i have to sit and wait in frustration until GTA:SA is ever made for pc. same for halo 2.

 

[aeroripper]

Consoles are way easier to just sit down and play a multiplayer game while havin' some beers

Its usually harder to do that with a PC... turn computers on, start game, make server (and hopefully if everything is working) you can play a game... unless the network isn't working for some reaosn. Then you have to figure out why... oh wait i forgot to allow access on my firewall... etc etc etc... there's always and endless amount of issues with PCs and if your not knowledgeable they can be a huge hassel.

I just think consoles are a lot more approachable than PCs are as far as someone that hasn't used a computer most of his life.

PC are superior as they set the standards of the console industry. Xbox2 and PS3 will have better video cards than PCs when they come out but probably only for 6 months before PC users have access to them and again the PC is ahead.

 

[Quelaar]

First off, I own an xbox and I love it.

But, PCs are updated all the time, there is no way for consoles to compete in the long run. Doom 3, Far Cry, and Half-Life 2 are all evidence of consoles's aging. KillZone is the best thing that the PS2 can whip out, and though it may be good, it's not good.

Even COD:Finest Hour is really COD PC junior.

Consoles certainly have their moments, with GTA for example, but those games are almost always brought to the PC where they're giving sexy implants.

Not to mention that consoles can't touch PC's in the realm of RTS, FPS, RPG (with the exception of FF type RPGs), and adventure games. Consoles have platformers.

The best example of console's beating the PC in any way, really, is the Gamecube: Rogue Squadron, Mario, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Metroid, and Pikmin are all uber games that will never be brought to PC (though they could with a gamepad).

Consoles are great and, in their own way, can be as fun as the PC (and sometimes better), but good gaming rigs own most ends of gaming hands down.

Quelaar

 

[Tazman]

Pc's are the ultimate gaming machines, yes, Consoles have a huge amount of users, but most of them are console users purely because when they were younger their parents bought them an easy to setup games machine. Think about it, on a console, you plug it in and then just insert the cartridge or cd. Job done, your playing. Those users merely just stay with the console for ease of use.

A PC is a completely different beast. for starters, it has more functions than most people ever use, I'm an IT manager and use PC's for various tasks at home and work.

On a gaming point of view a PC is harder to setup for a lot of people, you have to have some knowledge of what you are doing before you start. You have a lot of things to think about, drivers, DirectX, CPU's, HDD, Ram, Vid card and so on.

But if you get all that right, boy! you have a machine that can do all the tasks you can think of and play games at top notch settings and speed. Another advantage to PC's is the sense of realism compared to Consoles. My Son has a PS/2, one of my brothers has an X-Box. When I have played on either of them, I always have a feeling of "Arcade". On a PC, you can get completely "into" the game. Not just FPS either, I am a F1 and Flight Sim nut too, there is no way you can get a game as complex as Lock-On running on a console. it just wouldn't work.

Consoles are for people that want the ease of just slapping a cd in and playing, the downside is they are limited to the type of games they can play and how realistic they are. Also once the machine has passed it's techno life, it will always be behind.

PC's are for the hardcore gamer and in my opinion, the type of person that has a real interest in computers, there is a lot of work to be done to get it running right but it is well worth it. You also have the benefit of using the PC for other tasks, if it get's out of date, instead of replacing the whole machine, you can replace components in stages.
And the games on a PC are so much better, a wider range, deeper scope and just simply amazing in some cases.

The day a console can out do a PC on the Flight sim realism, F1 excitment, FPS rush....and multi-task....well, it won't ever happen.

 

[Yogibbear]

Why don't they just combine them??? I mean that's what is already happening.....

my office is only like 10m from the lounge room..... if like my tv/computer/ps2/dvd/cd/tape/vcr/record player!!!! were all integrated together.......... would save a lot of wasted money.....

hm...... and anyway you can just buy gamepads for pc's and keyboards for consoles.......

 

[KurtCobain]

Ye i dnt like FPS on PS2 etc the controlls are weird.

Some people dnt like PC's because there power varies too much and people can have better ones than others, where as for PS2, there all the same and not as expensive.

PC is the best IMO!

 

[jabberwock95]

PCs rule for gaming, I just wish they weren't so expensive. You could easily spend more than the cost of a PS2 on an average graphics card for PC.

Having said that, PCs are the only thing I have encountered with a good control system for an FPS. Mouse and keyboard is really the only one for me.

Plus the internet is a major bonus.

 

[LPC]

the pc is better for gaming then a console, simply because without true costumizability, there is no true honor! consoles are for pussies I tell ya ;D

 

[groovy]

a PC isn't a gaming console, it's a gaming PLATFORM. use your brain next time.

and yes it is the best platform, you can do anything on a PC, the only benefit of having a console is that you can have instant multiplayer games, and don't have to worry about stuff screwing up and crashes and what not.

 

[one day....]

Hmmm personal preference tbh but....

I have a PS2 and a high end PC,and i play games on my PS2 more than my pc.Graphics and speed are NOT essential to make a good game,so saying that consoles are below pcs because you can upgrade a pc is just a dumb statement.Consoles are great for platform games/puzzle/rpg/adventure and basically everything exept maybe fps,which i agree are much better on pcs due to the mouse and keyboard combo,although you can get those for the ps2 aswell now so maybe the gap is closing.

Plus with the 'super consoles' being produced next year (or is it 2006? ) i feel the ps3/xbox 2 will further close the gap as far as graphics go.I don't really mind if a game has worse graphics but better gameplay,for me its ALL about the quality of play,NOT how polished it looks.Ok i dont like games that look like shit but ps2/xbox games dont so theres no problem there.

Personal preference.Another plus for the console is that is far more 'sociable'..in that you can play with 4 of your friends(if you have that many) in the confort of your living room on a 32" beasty TV,were as on the pc its all online and not as socially satisfying.Plus if someone slags your mum while playing in your living room,you can slap them,were as online u can only say 'stfu u loser'.All valid points,i love my pc and my ps2,but for sheer fun and good platform/rpg games ,ifavour my little console hands down.

 

[Homercidal]

Of course you all realize that the argument of PC's having th ebetter controllers for FPS just disapeared? Now there is an adapter which allows you to connect a KB/Mouse to Xbox and PS2. I'm ready to find some used FPS games for my (daughters) PS2 and try them out. It would be easier taking that on camping trips. My friend and i can piss off the wives at the campground!

 

[Buckfutter]

How about we judge a gaming platform's merit on its games, and not how much ram it has or whether it can run Word? Radical thought that gameplay should rule above all else when considering games, I know, but I'm just throwing out ideas here.

There is no superior gaming platform, because the best game of all time could be released on any single platform at any time. Everything else is ridiculous semantics regarding personal genre preference and retarded bias. If you want to be a fanboy for any system or platform variety, then you're equally stupid in my books.

 

[Warbie]

The singleplayer game sucked, but the multiplayer was great.

I loved the single player (better than HL imo *ducks the flames /o\)

 

[Warbie]

How about we judge a gaming platform's merit on its games, and not how much ram it has or whether it can run Word? Radical thought that gameplay should rule above all else when considering games, I know, but I'm just throwing out ideas here.

There is no superior gaming platform, because the best game of all time could be released on any single platform at any time. Everything else is ridiculous semantics regarding personal genre preference and retarded bias. If you want to be a fanboy for any system or platform variety, then you're equally stupid in my books.

Never said this before (just reading it makes me cringe) but ...... quoted for emphasis /o\

Never a truer word was spoken.

Compare this to top of the line video cards which can happily run at 1600x1200. Even cheap video cards can display TV like resolution of 640x480.

What you fail to mention is that a low res only looks awful on a monitor. It looks fine on a TV.

Consoles graphics haven't even come close to PCs and wont come close in the next couple of years.

I completely disagree. Art direction and creativity a far more important than how many shaders (or other fancy effects) an engine has. It's down to the skill of the artists, not the platform.

Graphics and speed are NOT essential to make a good game

Completely agree. Infact they are way down on the list of essential game ingredients.

 

[Mountain Man]

In order to upgrade console technology, a whole new console system has to be created and marketed. PC technology can be introduced and incorporated into systems much faster since one can upgrade individual components. Consoles will never catch up with PCs when it comes to pure technological innovation simply because PCs are made to be upgraded.

In terms of games, I find PC games to generally be more sophisticated and complex, and this is simply a matter of interface. On consoles, all games must be developed within the confines of the controller which offers a limited input interface and thus necessarily limits the complexity of any game designed for it. PCs offer a considerably more flexible human interface, and this is reflected in the diversity of games available on the PC platform.

Of course, consoles have their benefits as well, primarily that of ease of use. They are literally plug-and-play and you never have to worry about your system not meeting the minimum requirements. Console games are also generally more polished than PC games since they are much harder if not impossible to patch.

In short, both platforms offer their own strengths and weaknesses. I happen to prefer PC gaming, but I also recognize the merits of consoles.

 

[BloodyMario]

PC is definately the best platfrom for FPS and strategy games. And since I don't care much about other types of games there's no sign of XBox or PS2 for me in the near future.

 

[one day....]

In terms of games, I find PC games to generally be more sophisticated and complex, and this is simply a matter of interface. On consoles, all games must be developed within the confines of the controller which offers a limited input interface and thus necessarily limits the complexity of any game designed for it. PCs offer a considerably more flexible human interface, and this is reflected in the diversity of games available on the PC platform.

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Not true.

Limited input interface? The ps2 contoller has 10 buttons,2 analog sticks and the standard 'psone' design directional pad.Limited? Hardly.Xbox controllers are slightly more limited as they have less buttons to play with.Also you can actually buy steering wheels/arcade joysticks etc that have loads of input.

As for pc games being more sophisticated,could you please explain in more detail what you are trying to say? Sophistication?
Im at a loss as to what you mean.

Diversity of games? Are you kidding me? There are LOADS of games for the ps2,and xbox is quickly catching up,porting alot of ps2 games over and adding to their own collection.RPGs,fps,action/adventure/fighting/sports/platform etc etc.Very diverse in my opinion.You cannot polish a turd mate,so i do not give a toss how much of a beast pc we have,it is only as good as the game thats in it.

I know some people are like 'wow good game,but it has jaggedy lines on that door over there' well not me.Look at doom 3 ffs.

Diversity- nope
Sophistication- nope
Nice Looking -yes
Replay Value -nope

Just an example of a so called 'revolutionary' game for the pc that turned out to be a technical demo for ID software that IMO had no depth and just got boring very quickly.A fine example of one of my favourite lines...

You can't polish a turd.

 

[Homercidal]

Not true.

Limited input interface? The ps2 contoller has 10 buttons,2 analog sticks and the standard 'psone' design directional pad.Limited? Hardly.Xbox controllers are slightly more limited as they have less buttons to play with.Also you can actually buy steering wheels/arcade joysticks etc that have loads of input.
All of the controllers listed can also be purchased for PC. The PC also has the advantage because the KB is an essential part of the system and in many ways allows the user to do things that they could not with a console. At this present time anyway.

As for pc games being more sophisticated,could you please explain in more detail what you are trying to say? Sophistication?
Im at a loss as to what you mean.
The expanded abilities of the PC allow for plenty of MODs capabilities. Nobody develops Mods for console games, but most PC games allow some amount of customization, all the way to building new games.

Diversity of games? Are you kidding me? There are LOADS of games for the ps2,and xbox is quickly catching up,porting alot of ps2 games over and adding to their own collection.RPGs,fps,action/adventure/fighting/sports/platform etc etc.Very diverse in my opinion.You cannot polish a turd mate,so i do not give a toss how much of a beast pc we have,it is only as good as the game thats in it.
As many of those games you name, they are all possible on PC, yet the PC has many games that are not feasible to do on console. Most of them would fall into games requiring a KB for text input, but they are there nonetheless.

I know some people are like 'wow good game,but it has jaggedy lines on that door over there' well not me.Look at doom 3 ffs.Doom 3 gets knocked for it's "low quality" of graphics, yet is also known for it's high quality of graphics. I don't get it. I thought the graphics were fine, but the gameplay seemed a bit linear. Not much room for anything but to follow a trail and shoot monsters. Easy target for comparisons.

Diversity- nope
Sophistication- nope
Nice Looking -yes
Replay Value -nope

Just an example of a so called 'revolutionary' game for the pc that turned out to be a technical demo for ID software that IMO had no depth and just got boring very quickly.A fine example of one of my favourite lines...

You can't polish a turd.

The simple fact is that the PC is more capable in almost every manner, but what it comes down to is the gameplay anyway. I'd got stinkers for PC, and I got stinkers for Consoles. Many games are out for all platforms, and in comparison the consoles do quite well when stacked up, but you can't load mods yet. In the case of Doom 3, the Mods may make all the difference in the world. Certianly the technology is there to build around.

Consoles will likely have more features in the future, such as full KB/mouse support, hard drives, etc. At that time I believe they would stop being called consoles and in reality become small PCs. After all, the Xbox is really just a stripped down PC inside.

 

[one day....]

Yes the xbox is basically a small stable pc.I had one but went and got a ps2,as it is so much easier to backup games.

Im not saying consoles are better than pcs for gaming,just that they are alot better for having ya mates round ie more sociable.

Doom 3 was crap in my opinion.Simple as that really.

I have a high end pc like i said so i am in nO way biast here.I only play FPS games on the pc,everything else on my ps2 as i have over 150 games now.Half life 2 on consoles will no doubt be crap,but the next gen consoles that will be released will handle them easily ,i have heard alot of things about the new ps3 that sound amazing.Also xbox2 might be able to play pc games anyway i heard.

You say that you can get all the input devices for pc that you get for ps2? Not true either.Eye toy for example is an exlusive patented sony product,you may laugh but the eye toy is a good laugh,me and a few of my girlfriends had a right blast playing it last night.Imagine if we all got around the pc monitor and tried to have fun.. i think not.

So to sum it up,i prefer my console for general gaming,but for FPS games i think the PC simply owns all other things full stop.

 

[one day....]

Oh and btw,i really could not give a monkeys balls about 'mods'.The only mod i ever played was counter strike,and it was awesome.Other than that i just dont bother.If you can get a game right first time around,then there is no need to mod it at all imo.Some people will say its not about 'needing' to mod it,just thats it is fun to mod,fair enough.Most of the 'mods' i have seen are average and dont really add much to the original game,although CS is an exeption to the rule.

So mods can go fish as far as im concerened.No amount of mods will make doom 3 enjoyable for me,unless they completely remake it,and that wouldnt be a mod would it? :naughty:

 

[Valve_Assassin]

In terms of games, I find PC games to generally be more sophisticated and complex, and this is simply a matter of interface. On consoles, all games must be developed within the confines of the controller which offers a limited input interface and thus necessarily limits the complexity of any game designed for it. PCs offer a considerably more flexible human interface, and this is reflected in the diversity of games available on the PC platform.

You can look at this in another way. Having a more streamlined interface doesn't limit the complexity of the game, but in fact requires the developer to be creative and effective in devloping a control scheme that's succinct and can still manage a complex game, which is something more PC developers need to do IMHO. On the same hand you can look at customizable controls (PC or Console) as the developer being lazy and leaving it to the player to discover the most intuitive control scheme.

 

[BloodyMario]

Oh and btw,i really could not give a monkeys balls about 'mods'.The only mod i ever played was counter strike,and it was awesome.Other than that i just dont bother.If you can get a game right first time around,then there is no need to mod it at all imo.Some people will say its not about 'needing' to mod it,just thats it is fun to mod,fair enough.Most of the 'mods' i have seen are average and dont really add much to the original game,although CS is an exeption to the rule.

So mods can go fish as far as im concerened.No amount of mods will make doom 3 enjoyable for me,unless they completely remake it,and that wouldnt be a mod would it? :naughty:

I think you are missing the point of mods. They are not created to "fix" the original game, but to create new types of gameplay. Basically you get a whole new game on top of the old one.

 

[She]

Mod's are also modifiers...

When a new PC game comes out.. you have to update your PC
to play that game at it's MAX and experience the game at it's max..

When a console game comes out, you just pop it in and it's on MAX.

Equals = PC costs alot if you want to be able to play new games at their MAX..
MAX = graphics & such.

 

[killahsin-[CE]]

If you want simplified gameplay party atmosphere, arcade-ish. Hey guys lets grab a game during an afternoon previous to watching the football game. Quick to get into quick to get out of game. Than consoles are where its at.

BUT if your into in depth gameplay. Much larger sized games, more intuitive controls, better handling. Fast paced gameplay, with people online. Technological advancements that drive the console market tech, cheaper. Than pc's is where its at. And yes the fps market is inherently PC. While goldeneye, was the only great fps on a console that even compared to the pc market. And I'm jaded so i don't consider Metroid Prime a 'true' fps, due to the lack of multiplayer and the lock on target feature. Which just made it an arcade shooter w/ rpg elements in my book.

 

[Homercidal]

Im not saying consoles are better than pcs for gaming,just that they are alot better for having ya mates round ie more sociable.

I get together with my friends when we can and have lots of fun LAN gaming.

Doom 3 was crap in my opinion.Simple as that really.

I was also a bit disappointed, but haven't had a chance to play it too much.

I have a high end pc like i said so i am in nO way biast here.I only play FPS games on the pc,everything else on my ps2 as i have over 150 games now.Half life 2 on consoles will no doubt be crap,but the next gen consoles that will be released will handle them easily ,i have heard alot of things about the new ps3 that sound amazing.Also xbox2 might be able to play pc games anyway i heard.

Why not play FPS game son the console? Just get an adapter from Lik Sang and go to town! Unless there is another reason you don't like FPS games on consoles... Like graphics aren't as good or something?

You say that you can get all the input devices for pc that you get for ps2? Not true either.Eye toy for example is an exlusive patented sony product,you may laugh but the eye toy is a good laugh,me and a few of my girlfriends had a right blast playing it last night.Imagine if we all got around the pc monitor and tried to have fun.. i think not.

The EyeToy can certainly be described as unique. I tried at the store and found the gameplay to be crappy. My 10-year-old enjoyed it, but it looked to me like a novelty. Anyway, the EyeToy can be hooked up to the PC, although the software is not available to make it into a gaming input device, Sony has just not released the PC software. I'm sure if it proves fun enough, someone will improve upon it and release a version for PC.

So to sum it up,i prefer my console for general gaming,but for FPS games i think the PC simply owns all other things full stop.

In general, I agree, but I think the PC is still a more powerful platform, albeit a more expensive one, and generally a less portable one. I'm still holding out for that KB/Mouse adapter. I've always thought it would be fun to try on those PS2 PFS games I've seen at yard sales.

 

[Ghost Freeman]

A gaming console is not made by the amount of hardware it has, it is made by the amount of quality games it has.

 

[63]

I only play mods that are TC's.

 

[Homercidal]

A gaming console is not made by the amount of hardware it has, it is made by the amount of quality games it has.

Too true. The PC isn't a "console" as that term implies it's not a PC. But which console is the best, depends on what you want. Gamecube has many great games, yet is one of the simplest, and cheapest consoles out there.

PS2 has a lead in the number of games dept. and has plenty of good games, but Xbox has it's hardware problems straightened out and is catching up on quality titles.

At this point, I don't see the newer consoles being that great unless they can nail the games to go with them. Improved graphics and horsepower means nothing if the games just look good while they suck. On the other hand, better graphics can enhance the experience, and faster CPU can improve AI, meaning a newer console could be a better thing if the game itself is not crap.

But to answer the question of the topic of the post, if you wanted to lump a PC in with the consoles, I'd still have to give it an edge... If you want to spend much more, give a bit in portability, and like to do other things like surf the net, type homework, rip CDs, etc. when you are not gaming.

 

[zer0kewl]

i consider pc's for multimedia and games
a ps2 and xbox can play movies also or audio and games
but you can't internet with them.
atleast i think

2e i prefer mouse and keyboard more then a controller

 

[one day....]

BUT if your into in depth gameplay. Much larger sized games, more intuitive controls, better handling. Fast paced gameplay, with people online. Technological advancements that drive the console market tech, cheaper. Than pc's is where its at. And yes the fps market is inherently PC. While goldeneye, was the only great fps on a console that even compared to the pc market. And I'm jaded so i don't consider Metroid Prime a 'true' fps, due to the lack of multiplayer and the lock on target feature. Which just made it an arcade shooter w/ rpg elements in my book.

Im sorry but i have to call 'bullshit' on this

In depth gameplay? PS2 has oooodles of that.

Larger games? My god have you played Final Fantasy games? They have like 50-60 hours play time ffs.

Fast paced gameplay? LOADS of that on consoles too.

I dont understand some people,narrow minded pig headed pc owners who seem to think that consoles are for 'simpletons' and pcs are for the more 'experienced' in depth gamer.BULLSHIT im sorry but that really pisses me off. :frown:

Its beyond me some peoples views are warped.Maybe mine is to others but i fail to see why consoles cant deliver in depth .. large...intuitive games.They simply do,have done,and shall continue to do so.So get over it,pcs are good and so are consoles but dont try and make out that us console users are just simple minded idiots who want a 'quick blast' before the game,i mean WTF is that about? I dont watch football im a girl who hates it! I tend to play games on my ps2 that require skill,puzzle solving and hours of 'sit down and bulk down' play like FFX etc.

Not to mention you can play PSOne games on the ps2,the final fantasy series is HUGE and very deep and has hours upon hours of rich,immersive gameplay.So there goes your stupid and pig headed theory that consoles are for 'quick blast pre footy game idiots' (well you didnt exactly say that but thats what you implied )

 

[Asuka]

Pc > Any console. In everyway. Games, controls, gfx, etc.

 

[Mountain Man]

Limited input interface? The ps2 contoller has 10 buttons,2 analog sticks and the standard 'psone' design directional pad.Limited? Hardly.Xbox controllers are slightly more limited as they have less buttons to play with.Also you can actually buy steering wheels/arcade joysticks etc that have loads of input.

Limited when compared to the immense flexibility of the deceptively simple mouse/keyboard interface.

As for pc games being more sophisticated,could you please explain in more detail what you are trying to say? Sophistication?
Im at a loss as to what you mean.

WarCraft III, Baulder's Gate, Deus Ex, Microsoft Flight Simulator 200x, Half-Life 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Vampire: The Masqurade: Bloodlines--all deep and complex games with no console equivalents.

Diversity of games? Are you kidding me? There are LOADS of games for the ps2,and xbox is quickly catching up,porting alot of ps2 games over and adding to their own collection.RPGs,fps,action/adventure/fighting/sports/platform etc etc.Very diverse in my opinion.You cannot polish a turd mate,so i do not give a toss how much of a beast pc we have,it is only as good as the game thats in it.

Console games tend to focus on action simply because that's the easiest kind of game to create for the limited interface. PC games tend to offer great gameplay diversity, not just genre diversity.

I know some people are like 'wow good game,but it has jaggedy lines on that door over there' well not me.Look at doom 3 ffs.

Yes, because Doom 3 is representative of the whole of PC gaming.

Look, I like console games, I really do. I even own a Game Boy Advance. It's just that in my opinion, dollar for dollar, the PC is the superior gaming platform.

 

[Asuka]

Limited when compared to the immense flexibility of the deceptively simple mouse/keyboard interface.


WarCraft III, Baulder's Gate, Deus Ex, Microsoft Flight Simulator 200x, Half-Life 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Vampire: The Masqurade: Bloodlines--all deep and complex games with no console equivalents.


Console games tend to focus on action simply because that's the easiest kind of game to create for the limited interface. PC games tend to offer great gameplay diversity, not just genre diversity.


Yes, because Doom 3 is representative of the whole of PC gaming.

Look, I like console games, I really do. I even own a Game Boy Advance. It's just that in my opinion, dollar for dollar, the PC is the superior gaming platform.

Agreed! 100%

 

[DrEvil]

Definetely. PCs are the superior gaming platform.

That said, sitting on my sofa and playing an xbox game on the big screen TV is way more comfortable than the PC experience.

 

[Homercidal]

I'm going to agree, but also disagree that dollar for dollar. Personally, I think you are getting a better value with consoles. You can barely buy a decent video card for PC with the same amount you would spend on a console system with a couple of accesories.

PC is clearly the top-end though.

 

[She]

Limited when compared to the immense flexibility of the deceptively simple mouse/keyboard interface.

Not anymore.. and for some consoles = not for long.

Console games tend to focus on action simply because that's the easiest kind of game to create for the limited interface. PC games tend to offer great gameplay diversity, not just genre diversity.

This is the dumbest statement iv'e read so far, in HL2.net forums..

Console games tend to focus on action simply because that's the easiest kind of game to create for the limited interface.

Dont know how old you are but:

Super mario Bros, Sonic, Super Metroid, Zelda, Final Fantasy, DKC, Megaman ect ect ect ect ect = gameplay..