Farenheit 9/11 trailer now online

[Korgoth]

Hey innervision did you go to Yale or Harvard? I would like to see you get some good grades there.

Hey kidrock did you graduate highschool? I'm trying to go to college, unfortunately daddy can't afford it for me so I have to WORK myself and save money...
You people amaze me, you would put precious GWB in front of anyone. You would argue with Jesus over Bush's character wouldn't you. If I could afford Yale I'd love to go. I never said I could make better grades than Bush either, but, I'm not THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD now am I. so I don't guess it really matters what kind of grades I would get.
(and if your wondering why I haven't left for work yet, its because I am waiting on my ride, I can't afford a car either)

 

[CptStern]

since we're talkin about grades here...

At least Bush made it through university. Al Gore flunked out of Harvard and Vanderbilt divinity school. Divinity school!!! Gore failed God!!

to Gore's credit, he hasnt invaded any countries lately

 

[Bad^Hat]

Gore failed God, haha that's awesome.

I quite enjoyed Bowling for Columbine, but I like to take this sort of thing with a pinch of salt (is that the expression), because I like to stay open minded on things I'm not 100% on. So while I agree Bush seems to be a real ****ing moron, I think it's alittle OTT to say he was in dealing with Bin Laden.

Still, freedom of speech and whatnot, if this movie doesn't get shown in America that'll only fuel Moores efforts so what's the point?

Will definitely give it a watch.

 

[moz4rt]

to Gore's credit, he hasnt invaded any countries lately

with his education he wouldn't know how to

 

[crabcakes66]

I like it how you question Bush on his college grades when you have no idea how difficult it is to attend Yale.

Must not be to hard when your fathers connections get you ushered in......

 

[moz4rt]

I don't understand what's going on with all of this, "Bush's dad got him the hookup so he could go to Yale."
I've observed that wealthy people are able to send their kids to expensive schools. This is a fact of life.

Why don't we make a big list of all the politicians who attened ivy league colleges, and make fun of them because they're rich!! That would be FUN!!!!!

 

[gh0st]

what the hell. i dont see what bush's grades or anything have to do with how much of a piece of shit michael moore is. innervision... my mommy pays for my school. does that make me spoiled? does that make me any less fit to be president than your ass? i thought not. who do you think payed for gore's college education? how about any politician, do you think ANY of them had to bust their ass for school? even if they came from a middle class family they probably had some scholarship worthy skill. more to the point, how does gores grades reflect shit about him? hes the one that dropped out.

oh and also to gores credit he didnt get elected, he will never get elected because hes too lame.

its also important to add, dont be bitter because some people have more money than you.

 

[qckbeam]

oh and also to gores credit he didnt get elected, he will never get elected because hes too lame.

Yep, we all know Gore could never be elected to office by the American public. I mean, just look at the results of the last presidential election... Bush really killed Gore there didn't he?

 

[gh0st]

Yep, we all know Gore could never be elected to office by the American public. I mean, just look at the results of the last presidential election... Bush really killed Gore there didn't he?

maybe you should learn something about our system of democracy. you dont really vote for your presidents.

 

[moz4rt]

what the hell. i dont see what bush's grades or anything have to do with how much of a piece of shit michael moore is. innervision... my mommy pays for my school. does that make me spoiled? does that make me any less fit to be president than your ass? i thought not. who do you think payed for gore's college education? how about any politician, do you think ANY of them had to bust their ass for school? even if they came from a middle class family they probably had some scholarship worthy skill. more to the point, how does gores grades reflect shit about him? hes the one that dropped out.

oh and also to gores credit he didnt get elected, he will never get elected because hes too lame.

its also important to add, dont be bitter because some people have more money than you.

Exactly.

Just to clarify, I was being sarcastic with that "make fun of rich people" comment.

 

[kidrock450]

Hey kidrock did you graduate highschool? I'm trying to go to college, unfortunately daddy can't afford it for me so I have to WORK myself and save money...
You people amaze me, you would put precious GWB in front of anyone. You would argue with Jesus over Bush's character wouldn't you. If I could afford Yale I'd love to go. I never said I could make better grades than Bush either, but, I'm not THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD now am I. so I don't guess it really matters what kind of grades I would get.
(and if your wondering why I haven't left for work yet, its because I am waiting on my ride, I can't afford a car either)

Lol YOU really amaze me. Do you assume I am rich and my parents pay for everything? If you really wanted to go to Yale (if you even have the grades which I doubt) you could always get financial aid or a scholorship. Dont make excuses that you cant go to a good college becuase you cant afford it. When I do graduate highschool (I cant now considering I am only 17) I will be able to go to a top school in the country.

 

[qckbeam]

maybe you should learn something about our system of democracy. you dont really vote for your presidents.

Yes, why don't you teach me all you know gh0st. I can see you are a regular sage from all of the intelligent posts you bring to these forums :|

There is no need to explain to me the process we use to elect a President in the United States. I'm well aware of it. I was making a point about your "Gore will never get elected because he is lame" comment. If you didn't understand the point I was trying to make, then perhaps you should brush up on your recent history. I would start by looking at the figures presented at this website, perhaps that will provide you with a clue.

 

[gh0st]

Yes, why don't you teach me all you know gh0st. I can see you are a regular sage from all of the intelligent posts you bring to these forums :|

There is no need to explain to me the process we use to elect a President in the United States. I'm well aware of it. I was making a point about your "Gore will never get elected because he is lame" comment. If you didn't understand the point I was trying to make, then perhaps you should brush up on your recent history. I would start by looking at the figures presented at this website, perhaps that will provide you with a clue.

oh qckbeam im in awe of your intelligence. apparantly you, ignorantly, took my phrase precisely as it was written. al gore will not be elected primarly because hes chosen not to run for president again (ive heard him say something like he has the energy or whatever to do it but doesnt want to.. whatever). my personal opinion is that he is lame. it also hurts me that you feel my posts arent intelligent enough for you. really, im very sorry. jackass. if you know the election system so well, you would know that your numbers do not dictate who is president. way to invalidate your post.

just deal with the fact he lost, hes not going to ever be president because hes not going to run, and his support has dwindled rediculously over the past years. maybe if you brush up on your recent history or noticed that hes been virtually invisible over the past 4 years.... no thats too much to ask, youre too busy criticizing other peoples sage like mastry of knowledge.

 

[qckbeam]

oh qckbeam im in awe of your intelligence. apparantly you, ignorantly, took my phrase precisely as it was written. al gore will not be elected primarly because hes chosen not to run for president again

Oh I see, so I shouldn't take your phrases precisely as you right them. So when you said "[Al Gore] will never get elected because hes too lame." you actually meant "al gore will not be elected primarly because hes chosen not to run for president again" ?

if you know the election system so well, you would know that your numbers do not dictate who is president. way to invalidate your post.

You have proven that you simply don't understand the point I was making. To be honest, I don't have the time right now to spell it out for you, otherwise I would. Perhaps in the morning.

just deal with the fact he lost, hes not going to ever be president because hes not going to run, and his support has dwindled rediculously over the past years. maybe if you brush up on your recent history or noticed that hes been virtually invisible over the past 4 years.... no thats too much to ask, youre too busy criticizing other peoples sage like mastry of knowledge.

Yes, I'm in denial over Gore, that's it. Thank you for helping me see the light gh0st.
I very rarely criticize people you know, every once in a while someone makes a statement that doesn't make any sense, and I must respond. This was one of those times.

it also hurts me that you feel my posts arent intelligent enough for you. really, im very sorry. jackass.

Oooh, clever use of hidden insults :thumbs: Look! I can also create text which is the same color as the background!
However, I don't use it to hide my feelings for people. I'm perfectly comfortable with insulting people to their face if they deserve it. Please gh0st, if you'd like to insult me, do it out in the open. Continue to wallow in ignorance if you wish, but don't make cowardly little attacks against me with hidden text.

 

[Razor]

When Moore was making that speech at the Oscars, i noticed how only 1 or 2 people in the audience actually agreed with him and his statements.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

If you really wanted to go to Yale (if you even have the grades which I doubt) you could always get financial aid or a scholorship. Dont make excuses that you cant go to a good college becuase you cant afford it. When I do graduate highschool (I cant now considering I am only 17) I will be able to go to a top school in the country.

Yeah lets get financial aid and still owe 45+k to a school for the rest of your life, good thinking chief. Top school in the country? What mommy and daddy is paying for your college, awww how cute, you will never grow up.

 

[^Ben]

Hindsight is always 20/20 or is it 50/50 bleh.

I've never been a Micheal More fan ever since bowling for columbine.

 

[burnzie]

20/20 i belive. and its cool to hate Mr. Moore

 

[Bad^Hat]

This topic needs more pie... or close, whichever is more readily accesible.

 

[CptStern]

Hindsight is always 20/20 or is it 50/50 bleh.

I've never been a Micheal More fan ever since bowling for columbine.

why? and dont say because he lied...cuz by that logic you should hate your president as well, who makes moore look like george washington by comparison (the fact that he never lied...so dont flame me)

I dont get why so many americans hate Micael Moore...is it because he attacked gun ownership? was that a big no no? You all seemed to like him when he did his Awful truth show.

 

[CptStern]

When Moore was making that speech at the Oscars, i noticed how only 1 or 2 people in the audience actually agreed with him and his statements.

oh and actors are the creme of the creme of the intelligentsia movement?....who cares if a handful of actors didnt agree with moore...the rest of the world did

how many of you who dislike moore actually watched the trailer on the first page?

 

[^Ben]

CptStern dont make assumptions about me.

Im British not American. I can come to my own conclusions about him, and i don't like the way he bends the truth and how many people go along with it.

And yes i belive Tony Blair has lied on some occasions(i dont belive he lied about the war but thats a whole different can of worms)He's lied about immagration and other stuff but i bet wrether you come from, the big man or woman in charge of your country has lied. It's a fact of life sometimes the leaders "lie" and sometimes they have to "lie"

 

[CptStern]

Tony Blair secured the cautious backing of MPs last night for action to force Saddam Hussein to disarm after the Government disclosed that Iraq's armoury of chemical or biological weapons could be activated at 45 minutes' notice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtmlxml=/news/2002/09/25/nirq25.xml

When Moore tells a lie countries dont get invaded

 

[Korgoth]

what the hell. i dont see what bush's grades or anything have to do with how much of a piece of shit michael moore is. innervision... my mommy pays for my school. does that make me spoiled? does that make me any less fit to be president than your ass? i thought not. who do you think payed for gore's college education? how about any politician, do you think ANY of them had to bust their ass for school? even if they came from a middle class family they probably had some scholarship worthy skill. more to the point, how does gores grades reflect shit about him? hes the one that dropped out.

oh and also to gores credit he didnt get elected, he will never get elected because hes too lame.

its also important to add, dont be bitter because some people have more money than you.

I was, in fact, referring to the office of the president, not the man himself. The last few have all been rich brats that haven't worked a day in their lives.
Are you any more fit to be president than me? Probably so, apparently only assholes with bloodlust can be president now a days, you fit that bill a little better than me so you can have the damn job. I find it funny, your sitting there insulting my intelligence, and making false character accusations about me and you don't even know me. I don't make life changing decisions day in and day out. I don't affect the lives of millions, yet you would hold me under a finer microscope than your beloved George Bush.
If ass kissing could get you into Yale, you'd be a professor. Your blind faith in this administration makes me sick. Your slanderous overtone towards anyone less conservative than you make me sick. This discussion makes me sick. But before I go I would like to let you know one thing...

*Michael Moore is a retard
*Bill Clinton is a retard
*Arnold Schwarzenegger is a retard
*George Bush is a retard
*You are a fascist

And congratulations with all your success in life! Your still a fascist!

 

[Razor]

oh and actors are the creme of the creme of the intelligentsia movement?....who cares if a handful of actors didnt agree with moore...the rest of the world did

how many of you who dislike moore actually watched the trailer on the first page?

Even Hollywood actors are real people with free will.

And i could never get the trailer to work.

 

[CptStern]

They are american actors on an american show if it was in any other country I'm sure the cheers would drown out the jeers, as what happened when he accepted the Palm D'or in Cannes...there was a standing ovation.

I just watched it again

 

[Sprafa]

OMFG!
I just quit writing in threads like this..... Bush's screwed the economy, is on his way to destroy the enviroment, and is the most belicist USA president since Washington.....I even like the Patriot Act, I believe it's necessary for a crime-free society and privacy is BS, but called PATRIOT! it's an excuse, a futile excuse!

Really ppl, if you can't see it, wake up for reality!

I'm not even going to respond to any comments against this. I'M TIRED OF PPL THAT DON'T GET IT! EVEN AFTER 5000 ARGUMENTS, THEY'LL STILL SUPPORT THAT ASSHOLE!

 

[Direwolf]

And you still don't.
"Show me a man who has all the answers and I'll show you a fool." Don't pretend that those who disagree are less informed or stupider than yourself, because they are not. Every issue has two sides, and to be ignorant of one is only going to hurt yourself.

 

[^Ben]

I tell you what CptStern there is absoultly no point in arguing with you. I have my opnion you have yours Micheal Moore has his. Just because i disagree with it does that make me some kind of uninformed fool who wants to see the world go down the toilet? No im not, but you don't see me ranting and raving on some internet forums discredeting other peoples arguments while adding in little snide comments of your own?

And no one and i mean NO ONE (apart from the senior goverments) knows the situations for the war. You certainly dont, it might of been for oil? but i'll tell you a 90 billion dollar bill for the war? It will be a looooong time before George see's that investment back.

No one knows if there are WMD just because noone has found them dosent mean they are not there. I personally belive Sadders did have something going on with WMD's does that mean there are any? No. Just beacuse you read something from a book or some biased news source does that mean there are WMD's? No.

I personnaly belive in 10 years the actions done in theese past couple of years will greatly help the stability of the middle east. If it dosent i know it will certainly help the iraqis from a cruel dictator.

This is the leaving thing i will give you. I know many iraqis who have had to come to england from iraq because of Saddams brutal regieme and they have told me many horror story of what Saddam would do to hes opponents and people who would of doubted him. Let's just say if George bush acted like Saddam, Micheal Moore would of been tortued and executed the women in his family raped infront of him they might of been spared if they where lucky and the men in his family would of probably been executed.

"*Arnold Schwarzenegger is a retard" Please die Arnie is my hero GET TO DA CHOPPAH!

 

[CptStern]

there is no doubt saddam was a monster, but that didnt stop the US from supporting him when he was at his absolute worst.

 

[Sprafa]

And you still don't.
"Show me a man who has all the answers and I'll show you a fool." Don't pretend that those who disagree are less informed or stupider than yourself, because they are not. Every issue has two sides, and to be ignorant of one is only going to hurt yourself.

aahhh....To inform you, I know the other side. Perfectly. Don't make a smart quote b/c you can't talk smart....


And although I do not have all the answers, that doesn't makes me smarter either does it?

 

[seinfeldrules]

oh and actors are the creme of the creme of the intelligentsia movement?....who cares if a handful of actors didnt agree with moore...the rest of the world did

how many of you who dislike moore actually watched the trailer on the first page?

LOL trust me, if most of Hollywood didnt approve of him, nobody did. At least know what you are talking about before you put these kinds of statements out!

 

[seinfeldrules]

Sprafa again, you talk before you reasearch. Do you believe every thing the NYT reports? The economy has been doing marvelous since January with over 1 million jobs created and an unemployment rate of 5.6. A little below the average % over the last 30-50 years. The stock market also had a very quick recovery and the rest of the economy is booming. Job creation is always the lagging factor in a recovery and even that has drastically picked up recently (as mentioned). And on the environment, when was the last time you saw a caribu? Is it worth the extra dollar a gallon to save a few of them (that you will never take your time to visit).

 

[seinfeldrules]

there is no doubt saddam was a monster, but that didnt stop the US from supporting him when he was at his absolute worst.

Are you aware of the situation we had (USA) with Iran at the time? Obviously you dont.

 

[Mr-Fusion]

I think Moore's beliefs would actually make the U.S.A a better country.

I think he's far more of a patriot than Bush.

 

[seinfeldrules]

I think Moore's beliefs would actually make the U.S.A a better country.

I think he's far more of a patriot than Bush.

Well lets just put it this way, if Moore kisses any more European but, then he will have to pull the Eiffel tower out of his own a**.

 

[CptStern]

LOL trust me, if most of Hollywood didnt approve of him, nobody did. At least know what you are talking about before you put these kinds of statements out!

and you dont see how stupid your remark is? Everybody knows that hollywood is a fair cross section of american culture...if that was true half the actors would be fat and slow witted

Are you aware of the situation we had (USA) with Iran at the time? Obviously you dont.

we've covered this before and you didnt answer me last time. Why did the US sell arms to Iran as well? or did you forget the iran-contra affair?

Well lets just put it this way, if Moore kisses any more European but, then he will have to pull the Eiffel tower out of his own a**.

by that same token I guess moore must kiss canada's ass because without Salter films (canadian) bowling for columbia would never had been made, and why's that? because no studio in the US would touch the subject matter. If you hate Moore you must absolutely loath Chomsky who makes moore look like freakin ollie north...but I'm sure you've watched "Manufacturing Consent" seeing as how well versed you are with all things to do with american foreign policy

 

[seinfeldrules]

HHAHAHA Hollywood is the liberal spawn pool of America. 99.9% of all actors are liberal (and many extreme liberals).

Why did we sell arms to Iran? They were sold in exchange for American hostages the Iranian's (or some extremist group) were holding at the time. The hostages were returned unharmed. From that purchase, money was diverted to pay for arms for the rebel group in Nicaragua to help fight the communists (Sandistos?).

And no, I havent seen the movie, I will make sure I never do. I prefer not to waste my time watching films done by trashy liberal directors trying to sway the nation's opinions by reporting the half truth.

 

[CptStern]

chomsky is a professor of linguistics at MIT and has various doctorates in international foreign policy...oh and he's a staunch critic of american imperialism, IMF, WTO and golbalisation

no I wasnt talking about the contra affair specifically but rather the time frame, but you're right, some of the funds from the sale of weapons were used to arm the Sandinistas not the Sandistos (sounds like a nacho chip) but unofficialy the CIA sold arms to the ayatollah thru Israel.

 

[Gunner]

Meanwhile in France, everyone is laughing at Bush. They gave Moore a prestigious award at the Cannes Films Festival.